Will X shocks fit with Y springs on my Z model? - Page 2

nate.the.great · 01-26-2007, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by REX8

I've heard that you CAN (from about 3 people) use 04 struts with 02/03 springs and tophats. Are you 100% sure you can't?

really? 02/03 springs and tophats with 04 struts? i'll have to do some research.

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noboost4u · 01-26-2007, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nate.the.great

really? 02/03 springs and tophats with 04 struts? i'll have to do some research.

I know that I've read that elsewhere on here too, wish I could remember where.

...The Truth IS Out There...

UkNuck · 01-26-2007, 01:38 PM

Well - fwiw I sold my V7 rear springs and tophats to a local fellow with an 06 and he said they fitted fine:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...17&postcount=4

XtremePsionic · 02-07-2007, 10:28 PM

I don't see it on this post (or I'm just blind!), what about 06 STI full take off with top hats, would that fit an 06 WRX?

edit: is that the same as the V9 suspension senerio involving spacer? Sorry I don't know if they changed the suspension at all for the 06/07 model on top of the engine and face lift.

UkNuck · 02-08-2007, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XtremePsionic

I don't see it on this post (or I'm just blind!), what about 06 STI full take off with top hats, would that fit an 06 WRX?

Top hats aren't the issue in that case - what won't fit is the 06 (or 05, or 07) STI front struts on the WRX (or any other Impreza) front hub/knuckle.

XtremePsionic · 02-08-2007, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UkNuck

Top hats aren't the issue in that case - what won't fit is the 06 (or 05, or 07) STI front struts on the WRX (or any other Impreza) front hub/knuckle.

Ok thanks. So from the first post by Nate it seems like I need to find a shop to slot the strut's mounting hole and add a spacer on the bottom then to make it fit.

Hmm sounds like maybe it's not worth it then.

halas · 02-10-2007, 12:06 AM

so basically any Sti strut will fit my 06, but if its from a 05+ Sti I have to slot 0.330" - BUT I have a GC so it's all a guess right now!>!>!>!

UkNuck · 02-10-2007, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halas

BUT I have a GC so it's all a guess right now!>!>!>!

The GC rear tophat bolt pattern is different. V7 (bugeye) stuff can be made to fit by re-using GC rear tophats; later Impreza suspensions (including any USDM STi) have the tapered rear springs which won't fit the GC tophats.

http://www.jdmpartstx.com/gc8_suspension/

Fathead · 02-12-2007, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nate.the.great

If you want to fit a 2005+ STi (V9) suspension on your WRX...

"Originally Posted by tom@kartboy View Post
you just need to slot the lower bolt hole up 0.330 and machine a spacer to makeup the width difference in the knuckle."

Is there a writeup or diagram on this anywhere, or someone w/experience who could walk me through this? I have '06 OEM STi springs, '05 OEM STi struts, trying to fit an '05 wagon. I understand there are camber issues up front, but I figure if I'm slotting the struts anyway, I can fix that. Any help would be appreciated (oh yah: already know about "saggy butt". . . not a concern). THANKS.

nate.the.great · 02-12-2007, 12:08 PM

i have never seen a slotting writeup. i would PM tom and ask him to do a writeup. however, since we are dealing with suspension components, i would recommend bringing it to a machine shop of some sort.

luvMySub · 03-08-2007, 12:09 PM

As the title states, will 06 impreza sedan struts fit in my 02 WRX sedan? Any replies would be greatly appreciated!!!

UkNuck · 03-08-2007, 12:16 PM

as long as they're not from an STI sedan

The 04+ rear tophats are different, but that way round (new struts w/ old tops and springs) supposedly works OK without modification. You could use complete assemblies (i.e. 04-07 strut+spring+tophat) if you want 100% fit

luvMySub · 03-08-2007, 12:53 PM

okay...

So, to clarify, I have an 02 WRX sedan. I plan on removing my struts and replacing them with struts from an 06 impreza sedan (not STi). My 02 top hats and springs will remain in my car, just the struts will be replaced.

Will they fit and work properly?
Thanks...

luvMySub · 03-08-2007, 04:39 PM

Anybody out there that has had any experience (positive or negative) installing 06 sedan struts on an 02 wrx sedan (using 02 wrx springs and top hats)...just looking for someone's personal experience...

anybody???

k...well, i'll be installing some this weekend unless I hear otherwise so I will post the results...

luvMySub · 03-09-2007, 12:15 PM

^^^
Anybody?...just fishing for others experiences

UkNuck · 03-09-2007, 12:28 PM

Check out the thread I linked in post #28 (my old V7 springs + tops on an 06). I didn't do the install myself, but he seemed happy that everything fit.

luvMySub · 03-09-2007, 02:34 PM

Excellent, thanks!
I'll post my results after the swap...

stoney98 · 03-11-2007, 06:01 PM

Just to clarify, I am not going to need a set of Scooby921 spacers with the following setup:
02 Strut body
04+ Koni Inserts
04+ STI Tophats
04+ STI Pink Wagon Springs
Thaks
-Mark

UkNuck · 03-11-2007, 06:24 PM

Correct - inserts make the year of the strut bodies irrelevant

luvMySub · 03-12-2007, 03:38 PM

So, did the install on the weekend and the '06 impreza (sedan) struts do fit in the '02 impreza (WRX sedan) springs and top hats...

Now if you want to purely exchange the whole assemblies (struts/springs/top-hats) from an '06 impreza sedan into an '02 WRX...DO NOT DO SO....

Your car will literally be raised 1.5" -2"... both the top-hats and spring rates are different...we tried it first and my car looked like an SUV

...horrible...just thought I'd post my results...

theostubbs · 03-13-2007, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luvMySub

So, did the install on the weekend and the '06 impreza (sedan) struts do fit in the '02 impreza (WRX sedan) springs and top hats...

Now if you want to purely exchange the whole assemblies (struts/springs/top-hats) from an '06 impreza sedan into an '02 WRX...DO NOT DO SO....

Your car will literally be raised 1.5" -2"... both the top-hats and spring rates are different...we tried it first and my car looked like an SUV

...horrible...just thought I'd post my results...

Thats Excellent to know! Thanks

Now... will 2006 USDM STi springs / top hats do the same thing as you described? Was there a change between 05 and 06 with regards to STi springs/top hats?

luvMySub · 03-14-2007, 01:16 PM

I believe, but I am not 100% sure that the top hats on the '06 whether they are from an rs, wrx or STi are different than the 02 WRX top hats.

And yes, I beleive there was a change between the 05/06 tophats. I would just use your 02 top hats with the newer struts...it worked great!

Again, I am not an expert in the specific differences between the years so don't take my advice as gospel

However, as mentioned I can 100% verify that 06 struts do in fact fit with 02 top hats and springs...

Good luck!

UkNuck · 03-14-2007, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luvMySub

Now if you want to purely exchange the whole assemblies (struts/springs/top-hats) from an '06 impreza sedan into an '02 WRX...DO NOT DO SO....

Your car will literally be raised 1.5" -2"... both the top-hats and spring rates are different...we tried it first and my car looked like an SUV

...horrible...just thought I'd post my results...

Quote:

Originally Posted by luvMySub

And yes, I beleive there was a change between the 05/06 tophats.

Details? Pics? Did you let the struts settle (e.g. drive it around the block)? Seems strange, that's all...

luvMySub · 03-14-2007, 03:19 PM

Hey there...no pics, and yes, I let the car settle for a good 20 minutes before taking it out and driving it pretty hard around some twisties...

Basically, the top hats on the 06 is shaped differently with a sort of riser which the 02 didn't have so the top hat itself added 3/4" - 1" in raise and the spring rate/size on the 06 sedan struts was different so not quite as low as my wrx springs...

So, sorry, no pics, but trust me when I say it looked pretty bad! If you own an 02/03 wrx with stock springs, the back doesn't look bad but the front is quite high...well, put it this way, the back had just as much wheel/fender clearance as the front if not more (which is more necessary in the front to account for wheels turning)

Just thought I'd post my results...

UkNuck · 03-14-2007, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luvMySub

Basically, the top hats on the 06 is shaped differently with a sort of riser which the 02 didn't have so the top hat itself added 3/4" - 1" in raise

Yeah I'm aware of the differences between 02/03 and 04/5/6 but any year's correct spring+tophat combination should fit without altering the height.

Also you are saying 06 differs from 05... ?

03-08-2007, 12:09 PM	#36
luvMySub Scooby Newbie Member#: 132112 Join Date: Nov 2006 Chapter/Region: E. Canada Location: Niagara Region Vehicle: 2002 WRX Sedan midnight black pearl	newbie question - will 06 struts fit my 02? As the title states, will 06 impreza sedan struts fit in my 02 WRX sedan? Any replies would be greatly appreciated!!!

03-08-2007, 04:39 PM	#39
luvMySub Scooby Newbie Member#: 132112 Join Date: Nov 2006 Chapter/Region: E. Canada Location: Niagara Region Vehicle: 2002 WRX Sedan midnight black pearl	Anybody out there that has had any experience (positive or negative) installing 06 sedan struts on an 02 wrx sedan (using 02 wrx springs and top hats)...just looking for someone's personal experience... anybody??? k...well, i'll be installing some this weekend unless I hear otherwise so I will post the results... Last edited by luvMySub; 03-08-2007 at 04:54 PM.

03-12-2007, 03:38 PM	#45
luvMySub Scooby Newbie Member#: 132112 Join Date: Nov 2006 Chapter/Region: E. Canada Location: Niagara Region Vehicle: 2002 WRX Sedan midnight black pearl	006 struts DO fit with 02 top hats/springs So, did the install on the weekend and the '06 impreza (sedan) struts do fit in the '02 impreza (WRX sedan) springs and top hats... Now if you want to purely exchange the whole assemblies (struts/springs/top-hats) from an '06 impreza sedan into an '02 WRX...DO NOT DO SO.... Your car will literally be raised 1.5" -2"... both the top-hats and spring rates are different...we tried it first and my car looked like an SUV ...horrible...just thought I'd post my results...

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01-26-2007, 01:38 PM	#28
UkNuck Scooby Guru Member#: 21808 Join Date: Jul 2002 Chapter/Region: E. Canada Location: National Capital Region Vehicle: 02 GroceryGettAr Nonemore Black	Well - fwiw I sold my V7 rear springs and tophats to a local fellow with an 06 and he said they fitted fine: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...17&postcount=4

02-07-2007, 10:28 PM	#29
XtremePsionic Scooby Newbie Member#: 138057 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Calgary, Canada Vehicle: 06 WRX	I don't see it on this post (or I'm just blind!), what about 06 STI full take off with top hats, would that fit an 06 WRX? edit: is that the same as the V9 suspension senerio involving spacer? Sorry I don't know if they changed the suspension at all for the 06/07 model on top of the engine and face lift.

02-10-2007, 12:06 AM	#32
halas Scooby Newbie Member#: 108720 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Buffalo, NY Vehicle: 2006 9-2x	so basically any Sti strut will fit my 06, but if its from a 05+ Sti I have to slot 0.330" - BUT I have a GC so it's all a guess right now!>!>!>!

02-12-2007, 12:08 PM	#35
nate.the.great Scooby Specialist Member#: 72031 Join Date: Oct 2004 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: poor grammar fuels my anger	i have never seen a slotting writeup. i would PM tom and ask him to do a writeup. however, since we are dealing with suspension components, i would recommend bringing it to a machine shop of some sort.

03-08-2007, 12:16 PM	#37
UkNuck Scooby Guru Member#: 21808 Join Date: Jul 2002 Chapter/Region: E. Canada Location: National Capital Region Vehicle: 02 GroceryGettAr Nonemore Black	as long as they're not from an STI sedan The 04+ rear tophats are different, but that way round (new struts w/ old tops and springs) supposedly works OK without modification. You could use complete assemblies (i.e. 04-07 strut+spring+tophat) if you want 100% fit

03-08-2007, 12:53 PM	#38
luvMySub Scooby Newbie Member#: 132112 Join Date: Nov 2006 Chapter/Region: E. Canada Location: Niagara Region Vehicle: 2002 WRX Sedan midnight black pearl	okay... So, to clarify, I have an 02 WRX sedan. I plan on removing my struts and replacing them with struts from an 06 impreza sedan (not STi). My 02 top hats and springs will remain in my car, just the struts will be replaced. Will they fit and work properly? Thanks...

03-09-2007, 12:15 PM	#40
luvMySub Scooby Newbie Member#: 132112 Join Date: Nov 2006 Chapter/Region: E. Canada Location: Niagara Region Vehicle: 2002 WRX Sedan midnight black pearl	^^^ Anybody?...just fishing for others experiences

03-09-2007, 12:28 PM	#41
UkNuck Scooby Guru Member#: 21808 Join Date: Jul 2002 Chapter/Region: E. Canada Location: National Capital Region Vehicle: 02 GroceryGettAr Nonemore Black	Check out the thread I linked in post #28 (my old V7 springs + tops on an 06). I didn't do the install myself, but he seemed happy that everything fit.

03-09-2007, 02:34 PM	#42
luvMySub Scooby Newbie Member#: 132112 Join Date: Nov 2006 Chapter/Region: E. Canada Location: Niagara Region Vehicle: 2002 WRX Sedan midnight black pearl	Excellent, thanks! I'll post my results after the swap...

03-11-2007, 06:01 PM	#43
stoney98 Scooby Specialist Member#: 65888 Join Date: Jul 2004 Chapter/Region: RMIC Location: Denver, CO Vehicle: 2004 FXT	Just to clarify, I am not going to need a set of Scooby921 spacers with the following setup: 02 Strut body 04+ Koni Inserts 04+ STI Tophats 04+ STI Pink Wagon Springs Thaks -Mark

03-11-2007, 06:24 PM	#44
UkNuck Scooby Guru Member#: 21808 Join Date: Jul 2002 Chapter/Region: E. Canada Location: National Capital Region Vehicle: 02 GroceryGettAr Nonemore Black	Correct - inserts make the year of the strut bodies irrelevant

03-14-2007, 01:16 PM	#47
luvMySub Scooby Newbie Member#: 132112 Join Date: Nov 2006 Chapter/Region: E. Canada Location: Niagara Region Vehicle: 2002 WRX Sedan midnight black pearl	I believe, but I am not 100% sure that the top hats on the '06 whether they are from an rs, wrx or STi are different than the 02 WRX top hats. And yes, I beleive there was a change between the 05/06 tophats. I would just use your 02 top hats with the newer struts...it worked great! Again, I am not an expert in the specific differences between the years so don't take my advice as gospel However, as mentioned I can 100% verify that 06 struts do in fact fit with 02 top hats and springs... Good luck!

03-14-2007, 03:19 PM	#49
luvMySub Scooby Newbie Member#: 132112 Join Date: Nov 2006 Chapter/Region: E. Canada Location: Niagara Region Vehicle: 2002 WRX Sedan midnight black pearl	Hey there...no pics, and yes, I let the car settle for a good 20 minutes before taking it out and driving it pretty hard around some twisties... Basically, the top hats on the 06 is shaped differently with a sort of riser which the 02 didn't have so the top hat itself added 3/4" - 1" in raise and the spring rate/size on the 06 sedan struts was different so not quite as low as my wrx springs... So, sorry, no pics, but trust me when I say it looked pretty bad! If you own an 02/03 wrx with stock springs, the back doesn't look bad but the front is quite high...well, put it this way, the back had just as much wheel/fender clearance as the front if not more (which is more necessary in the front to account for wheels turning) Just thought I'd post my results...