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Old 08-17-2006, 06:55 PM   #1
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Default My car won't start.

It is cranking but will not start.

My wife said for the last two weeks she would start the car and need to press the gas to get it started.

What should I look at first?

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Old 08-17-2006, 07:19 PM   #2
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Mileage/mods?

Fuel? Fuel pump? Fuel Filter? Plugs? Plug Wires?
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Old 08-17-2006, 07:43 PM   #3
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Has it been unusually rainy lately?

I'm thinking the starter is wet, or faulty. It took 30 cranks to get mine started after an unusually wet week.

Pushing down the "gas pedal" would only make things worse if it were a fuel delivery issue, IMO.

BTW- (nitpicking moment), you don't have a BG, you have a BK. There was no BG in 95.
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Old 08-17-2006, 08:29 PM   #4
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Well, I went out and it started up. It now has a CEL.

I'm going to get plugs and fuel filter.

I changed the plug wires 7000 miles ago. (stock wires)

99,000 miles on a STOCK 2.2 BG/nitpickBK

No rain is So-Cal. It cranks and well. Battery is also 7 months old and checked out good.

New starter. (year old)

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Old 08-17-2006, 08:35 PM   #5
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I'm thinking the starter is wet, or faulty. It took 30 cranks to get mine started after an unusually wet week.
That has absolutely nothing to do with the starter, then. If it's turning, it's working. A starter could be fully submerged in water and still turn ok.

You have an ignition problem, likely the coil pack or plug wires.
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Old 08-17-2006, 09:14 PM   #6
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That has absolutely nothing to do with the starter, then. If it's turning, it's working. A starter could be fully submerged in water and still turn ok.

You have an ignition problem, likely the coil pack or plug wires.
okay, well, what I was thinking of, was the time that the starter pitch (there's gotta be a better word for it...sound, frequency, w/e) changed on me, and it took a long time for the car to start, because it had been so wet. After I took the car out and dried it off, the "cranking sound" went back to normal, not a high pitched whiny cranking sound.

Didn't think it was likely, but I thought I'd ask.
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Old 08-21-2006, 10:44 PM   #7
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I changed out the fuel filter (stock) and the spark plugs (ngk copper) and it starts up with no problems the CEL is now off.

The CEL didn't go out until I drove it a few times though.

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Old 08-21-2006, 11:07 PM   #8
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reset your ECU now.
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Old 08-22-2006, 04:43 AM   #9
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The CEL didn't go out until I drove it a few times though.
I'm pretty sure the ECU "screen" for problems every few minutes during driving. When I had some starting problems here just recently, I didn't have one before the problem and then when I thought I had it fixed the CEL came on. When I finally got the entire situation resolved ($130 in towe fees, two alternators, one Optima, a dirty battery cable, and the biggest sense of intillectual waste later) it took about 2 min of driving and it went off and has been off since.

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reset your ECU now
Even though your car doens't have a CEL, it may be running in "limp" mode or aka "take away fun driving" mode. My CEL wasn't on and I could really tell a difference after I reset my ECU.



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Old 12-16-2006, 05:50 PM   #10
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The car started not starting again a few weeks ago. It would not start if I took a short trip somewhere and got back in a short period later. It would then start again after waiting.

Now it won't start at all. It still is cranking but not starting.

Any ideas?

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Old 12-16-2006, 06:29 PM   #11
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Cam/crank sensor problem, perhaps?
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Old 12-16-2006, 07:53 PM   #12
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Usually if a car doesnt start, and the starter is turning, and the engine is cranking okay, it is either a fuel or an ignition problem.

My guess is that because it seems to be a weather related issue, is that it COULD likely be an ignition fault.

It would have been nice to have the previous OBD II fault codes.

The simplist noob thing to do might be to try hitting the coil packs and spark plug wires with some aerosol spray can of "wire dry" type stuff, and see if that helps.

(EDIT:I mean spray those effected areas... dont hit them with the can).
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okay, well, what I was thinking of, was the time that the starter pitch (there's gotta be a better word for it...sound, frequency, w/e) changed on me, and it took a long time for the car to start, because it had been so wet. After I took the car out and dried it off, the "cranking sound" went back to normal, not a high pitched whiny cranking sound.

Didn't think it was likely, but I thought I'd ask.
what you probably heard was the starter turning, but it wasn't engaging the flywheel. Doesn't it have a solenoid that moves the teeth together? If it got totally soaked, maybe this solenoid acted up, but the starter itself was still able to turn?!?

Anyway, back to the original question at hand... Have you checked all your hoses yet? Vacuum hose troubles can be the source of SOOOOO many car problems.
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Old 12-16-2006, 09:45 PM   #14
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what you probably heard was the starter turning, but it wasn't engaging the flywheel. Doesn't it have a solenoid that moves the teeth together? If it got totally soaked, maybe this solenoid acted up, but the starter itself was still able to turn?!?
mmm, that could've been it, but it was more like the starter was just struggling (almost like you have a dead battery or it's really cold) to start the car because it was cranking really slow.
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Old 12-16-2006, 09:51 PM   #15
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It is not weather related that I know of. The car stopped starting last week and the weather has been 70's - 80's here.

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mmm, that could've been it, but it was more like the starter was just struggling (almost like you have a dead battery or it's really cold) to start the car because it was cranking really slow.
oh. I thought you meant that sound where the starter spins really fast but doesn't engage the motor. Your slow sound would NOT be that.
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Old 12-17-2006, 02:10 PM   #17
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mmm, that could've been it, but it was more like the starter was just struggling (almost like you have a dead battery or it's really cold) to start the car because it was cranking really slow.
I'm going out to check them now.

If that is not it I'm going to get a coil pack tomorrow and try that.

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Old 12-18-2006, 10:47 AM   #18
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I'm going out to check them now.

If that is not it I'm going to get a coil pack tomorrow and try that.

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That was me!---er, I mean, check your plug wires. They do go bad sometimes. Also, the air filter if you didn't do that when you did the plugs and fuel filter.

Cheerio!

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Old 12-18-2006, 07:20 PM   #19
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I changed the coil and still won't start.

Air filter (K&N) was cleaned when I did the fuel filter.

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Old 12-18-2006, 08:23 PM   #20
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I changed the coil and still won't start.

Air filter (K&N) was cleaned when I did the fuel filter.

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I was having the same problem, replaced a few different things but it turned out to be the ECU
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Cam/crank sensor problem, perhaps?

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner.

The cam/crank sensor was the problem.

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