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Old 01-10-2007, 10:46 PM   #1
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Default Cisco sues Apple over "iPhone" trademark infringement

San Jose (CA) - Concerns that Cisco and Apple could clash over the use of the name "iPhone" for Apple's latest product appeared to be off the table yesterday as Cisco was reported to have offered Apple rights to use the name. Today, the situation has changed.

http://www.tgdaily.com/2007/01/10/apple_iphone_cisco1/
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Old 01-11-2007, 05:07 AM   #2
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eh whatever drives Cisco stock up higher.
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Old 01-11-2007, 10:17 AM   #3
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Hehehe awesome!
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Old 01-11-2007, 11:19 AM   #4
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*Nelson laugh*

Apple has been negotiating with Cisco to use the trademark for years. Apple decided to just do it, without an agreement.

I'm curious to see how this will pan out.
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Old 01-11-2007, 11:44 AM   #5
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Here's what I saw on the disagreement. Looks like Cisco just wants to collaborate and make sure their products work with Apples.

Commentary from Mark Chandler, Cisco's SVP and General Counsel, on Apple's infringement of Cisco's iPhone trademark (97.00 ) : From a blog on Cisco's (CSCO) website: "Despite being very close to an agreement, we had no substantive communication from Apple after 8pm Monday, including after their launch, when we made clear we expected closure. What were the issues at the table that kept us from an agreement? Was it money? No. Was it a royalty on every Apple phone? No. Was it an exchange for Cisco products or services? No. Fundamentally we wanted an open approach. We hoped our products could interoperate in the future. In our view, the network provides the basis to make this happen—it provides the foundation of innovation that allows converged devices to deliver the services that consumers want. Our goal was to take that to the next level by facilitating collaboration with Apple. And we wanted to make sure to differentiate the brands in a way that could work for both companies and not confuse people, since our products combine both web access and voice telephony. That's it. Openness and clarity."
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Old 01-11-2007, 01:08 PM   #6
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Watch them rename it iFone...
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Old 01-11-2007, 01:39 PM   #7
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Watch them rename it iFone...
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Trademark law is crazy stuff. Anyone remember the fights apple had with the G3, G4 names?

This is just another day and another dollar for apples lawyers.
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Old 01-11-2007, 04:06 PM   #8
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more importantly, they seem to have settled everything with the Beatles because Apple Corps. had always told Jobs that he could use Apple Computer and stay out of music. Many, many lawsuits and settlement payments later Apple Computer, inc. is now Apple, inc.

Paul must have needed the money to pay for his divorce.

As for the iPhone, looks sexy but I have some serious doubts. Current iPods scratch like hell. Using anything that doesn't have actual keys is harder to type.

I'll have to see one before I decide.

Also, Apple store is coming to Ann Arbor I'm in real trouble now.
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Old 01-11-2007, 06:35 PM   #9
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With half the iPod's on the market broken and in the process of being replaced at any one time, it will be nice if everyone gets an iPhone. You won't be able to reach anyone. When my boss suddenly needs a photo, I'll be able to tell her, "Sorry, iPhone. I would have gotten back to you if I had a phone that worked."

P.S. I've been using touch panels for years, some upwards of $7500 per panel. I have yet to find one that works well consistently.
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Old 01-11-2007, 10:32 PM   #10
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more importantly, they seem to have settled everything with the Beatles because Apple Corps. had always told Jobs that he could use Apple Computer and stay out of music. Many, many lawsuits and settlement payments later Apple Computer, inc. is now Apple, inc.
I think they dropped the computer part because they want to emphasize they're no longer just a computer company.
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Old 01-12-2007, 03:23 PM   #11
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*Nelson laugh*

Apple has been negotiating with Cisco to use the trademark for years. Apple decided to just do it, without an agreement.

I'm curious to see how this will pan out.
I thought the same thing when I read that.
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http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=5693

Apple and Cisco Could Both End Up Using the "iPhone" Trademark
Tuan Nguyen (Blog) - January 12, 2007 10:25 AM

Judge may rule that the term "iPhone" is too generic for one company to own

A day after Apple announced the iPhone, Cisco Systems quickly filed a lawsuit against Apple, claiming that the computer company infringed on its trademark. True enough, Cisco's consumer arm Linksys had released a product called the iPhone earlier than Apple, and that the trademark name "iPhone" had been owned by Cisco for several years already. Despite all this, Apple decided to launch its mobile communications device under the iPhone name anyway -- a move declared as extremely bold by many analysts.

In a report, Cisco mentioned that Apple had repeatedly approached it for permission to use the iPhone name, but no solid agreement had ever come to realization. Now, however, it could be possible that both companies will be allowed to use the iPhone name -- and so would everyone else, says a trademark expert.

According to Brian Banner, a seasoned attorney dealing with intellectual property and trademarks at Rothwell Figg, the "iPhone" name may actually be generic enough that a judge will rule it usable by both Apple and Cisco. The ruling will be under condition however, that a company name be attached to the term "iPhone," like "Apple iPhone" or "Cisco iPhone." Banner mentioned that the term may also be deemed generic enough to use by any company.

"They must have figured the reward would be greater than the risk. They probably did a lot of homework before calling it the iPhone and figured that the registration Cisco has is not a serious impediment," says Banner. But this is definitely not what Cisco thinks. Cisco representatives indicated that it will vigorously defend what it owns. Apple on the other hand disagrees with Cisco. "We believe that Cisco's U.S. trademark is tenuous at best," said Apple representative Katie Cotton. "We are the first company to use the iPhone name for a cell phone and we're confident we will prevail."
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Old 01-12-2007, 10:13 PM   #13
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With half the iPod's on the market broken and in the process of being replaced at any one time, it will be nice if everyone gets an iPhone.
Buy your ipod at costco. If it breaks, just return it. Everyone else does.
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Old 01-13-2007, 02:43 PM   #14
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I think the 3% of uber Apple zealots will buy it, all the rest will think it's overpriced.
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