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View Poll Results: Which one is best for me???
EVO III 16G 14 63.64%
16G 4 18.18%
TDOH5 16G 4 18.18%
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Old 01-12-2007, 09:25 AM   #1
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Default which do i get? EVO III 16G vs 16G vs TDOH5 16G

What are the major differences?
Spool Times?
Max Power?
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If you have Dyno slips or drag slips please POST them. I need help on what I should get. Also Please list supporting mods. What do you think would be best for me. DRAG, DAILY DRIVER, AND HIGHWAY.

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Old 01-12-2007, 09:53 AM   #2
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Where do you live?
Who is doing your tuning?
Do you own a KIA Sephia, 2004 Subaru WRX, or a 1943 Dodge D22 War Wagon?
Did you read the Unabomber's Manifesto?
What is your budget?
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Old 01-12-2007, 09:58 AM   #3
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My budget is cheap but willing to spend money if it is WELL worth it. I am prob going to go to Agile in MD or All Aspects in Chesapeake VA for tuning. I live in Chesapeake VA. Is this a KIA forum....haha
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Old 01-12-2007, 10:07 AM   #4
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ANYONE GOT IMPUT???? or you can just do the poll.
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Old 01-12-2007, 10:09 AM   #5
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HAHAHA.... you live in Chesapeake... Talk to the locals, ride in a few cars. See what you like. There are plenty of people around there who would be willing to give someone a ride on a 16G, 18G, (insert turbo here).

The differences between the 3 listed turbo's is really small. Maybe look at an 18G as well to round things out.
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Old 01-12-2007, 10:27 AM   #6
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Y HAHAHA about Chesapeake?????
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Old 01-12-2007, 10:30 AM   #7
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Did you know that I'm local to you? I'm going over to All Aspects in about an hour too. Call Kienan and talk to him, he'll set you up with quality parts and good information. Otherwise, I'd suggest PMing Deadbolt and send him the link to this thread for his input as he's sharp as a tack.
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Old 01-12-2007, 10:34 AM   #8
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Thanks Unabomber. what do you have on your car??? What would you suggest for me??
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1176849
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1177013
What you going to Kienan's for???
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Old 01-12-2007, 10:44 AM   #9
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I've never heard a bad thing about the EVO III 16G. Just don't get the knock off pos called the EVO III GT 16G

I've seen many 1G DSMs into the 11's on the EVO III
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Old 01-12-2007, 10:44 AM   #10
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I'm going to Kienan's to get in the way and piss him off as I'm bored. I sent a message to Jerry at Deadbolt to come in here and help. So look for a post from Deadbolt Enterprises later today which should clear things up immensely.

I'm running the stock turbo still. I got to drive a VF30 equipped car on wednesday which is the first VF30 car I've driven in probably 2 years. MAN is that car different. It SUCKS down low, but is a hoot up high. I still prefer my stock turbo though for day to day driving. As to my suggestion....that's a tough call. Do you prefer low end or high end power? If you plan on autocross a lot, I'd stick with a stock turbo or a Deadbolt stock turbo like I have. If you prefer drag or high end, a 16G is the universal "best" turbo for 2.0 WRX. There are varieties of them, but I think they are all "the same", but hopefully Deadbolt will clear that up.

Another crazy option that is in-between is a stock turbo with a 16G wheel in it. Low spool and high top end. It won't spools as fast as a stocker or have the high end of a 16G, but is a compromise and something I think about switching to from time to time.
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Old 01-12-2007, 10:51 AM   #11
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Tell Kienan the blue subbie with gold supraleggras said whats up. ask what he can get a vf39 for?? i love quick spool bit the tdo4 is just not enough power in want about 300whp so i think with a vf39 with pnp and ceramic and supporting mods i can get a quick spool with decent power. your COMMENTS??? how much would it cost to put a 16g wheel in a stocker??
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Old 01-12-2007, 10:55 AM   #12
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I think the 16G wheel in a stocker is 600 or somewhere around there, Jerry will probably post exact pricing. 39 probably won't get you to 300. A WHP goal is only 1/2 the equation though as power under the curve is a better judge. You can get 300 to the wheels and have more than my 250, but I will stilll beat you to 60 MPH. Catch my drift?
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Old 01-12-2007, 10:58 AM   #13
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I have a very similar set-up to waht you will wind up with if you get a 16G. My mods are: FP EVOIII 16G, TurboXS FMIC, Perrin short ram, Perrin up, Bosal down, Bosal CB, modded stock injectors, walbro pump, Cobb EM, Apexi AVRC. I dynoed at 294whp and 274wtq.

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Insane on the top-end although I think if I had it to do again I would have done a Deadbolt monter TD-04 and a good topmount for the better low range and faster spool-up.
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Old 01-12-2007, 10:58 AM   #14
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who do you know that is the best with utec. i heard of a guy in Gadial or something like that from puerto rico that goes to agile in MD????
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Old 01-12-2007, 11:00 AM   #15
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with a 16g or VF39 is a TMIC a better choice than a txs fmic???? what is a good TMIC????
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Old 01-12-2007, 11:01 AM   #16
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Deadbolt Super16G...

here is my dyno sheet and list of mods: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1065675
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Jerry is out this morning but I can field this one.

Which turbo really depends on your overall goals/desires.

The TD05H-16G is a nice upgrade for a 2.0L WRX. With the right tuning and supporting mods it can offer spoolup only slightly slower than stock (usually 17.5 PSI by the range of 3200-3500RPM) but with top end power levels approaching 360-370 crank. That turbo retails for $799.00 + shipping in water cooled-direct replacement. It would require upgraded injectors, fuel pump, and a retune.

The Super16G (little more power than E3Big) is only about 100-200 RPM slower to spoolup, but offers nearly 400 crank HP of power potential. It would also need larger injectors, pump, and retune.

I have ridden in/driven a car with both of them and the spoolup difference is almost impossible to notice, but the midrange and top end are definately noticed!

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What kind of price can i get for the super 16g.......as you see i am going for the vf39 right now so????? i think that maybe a little later like my stage 3 time.
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I have ridden in/driven a car with both of them and the spoolup difference is almost impossible to notice, but the midrange and top end are definately noticed!
This statement is all too true. I used to think lag would really bother me, but lately I find the topend rush is what really gets my gigglejuice flowing. I'd trade a little lag for topend rush anyday. My vote is the evo III 16g (or bigger ).
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ANYONE GOT IMPUT???? or you can just do the poll.
I had one of Jerry's 16G's on my '02....and it was a h00t.....I made boost even a bit quicker than what he posted

get the 'bigger' one and a good tune
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