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Old 01-12-2007, 04:44 PM   #1
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I got some nice pioneer speakers (2-way in the front, 3 way in the rear, is that the correct setup?) I'll be putting into the Lego.

I got the part about door removal and all that from the manual, but I just want to make sure that the speakers aren't secured by torx screws or something weird that would require me to curse at Subaru once again

Can anyone confirm I don't need any special bits or other things when I do this?
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Old 01-12-2007, 05:23 PM   #2
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IIRC, they are phillips head.
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Old 01-12-2007, 06:53 PM   #3
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yup, the legacy doors aren't too hard at all, and the speakers are easy to replace. I recall only needing a phillips head too. However, I did my stereo almost 6 years ago... I might've forgotten a bolt in there somewhere. But that would only require a standard wrench or socket set...

By the way, try to avoid three-way coaxial car speakers next time. A two-way system is the best way to go for car coxials (this is a general statement, so don't somebody pull out some $1500 pair of three-way coaxials to prove me wrong. I'm talking generally here)...
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Old 01-12-2007, 07:18 PM   #4
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Cool, I got them out of a wrecked RS, so I wasn't being too picky about 2-way,3-way, etc.

Did you recall needing to use spacers? I remember that RS's needed them because of the shallowness of the factory speakers, these are around 2 5/8" thick from the mounting plate to the back of the magnet...
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Old 01-13-2007, 01:52 AM   #5
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Cool, I got them out of a wrecked RS, so I wasn't being too picky about 2-way,3-way, etc.

Did you recall needing to use spacers? I remember that RS's needed them because of the shallowness of the factory speakers, these are around 2 5/8" thick from the mounting plate to the back of the magnet...
Yeah, free is fine. I wouldn't complain in that case. Just a note though, for future purchases: The third speaker (a tiny little tweeter) in a coaxial three-way design is really more for show than go. It's like the spoiler on a ford escort... sure it does something, but not enough to really call it a performance enhancement... A good two-way design is hard to beat.

So, spacers... I think I remember building some spacers, but I put some DEEP mids in my car. The good news is that the 2001 to 2004 legacy has a lot of room under the door panel, so you can fit a deep speaker in there.
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Old 01-13-2007, 11:37 AM   #6
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Yeah, 3 way speakers (ones under 200 bucks anyways) are not worth it. A good two way speaker set can be had for about 100 bucks (entry level) but think about what it takes to manufacture a 3 way internal crossover and then to add another tweeter that's actually worth something. More show than go.

And if I were spending that much on speakers I wouldn't buy a 3 way, as all the really good audio manufacturers have their entry level speakers at that price point. (like JL, Eclipse, etc)
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Old 01-13-2007, 11:57 AM   #7
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Yeah, 3 way speakers (ones under 200 bucks anyways) are not worth it. A good two way speaker set can be had for about 100 bucks (entry level) but think about what it takes to manufacture a 3 way internal crossover and then to add another tweeter that's actually worth something. More show than go.

And if I were spending that much on speakers I wouldn't buy a 3 way, as all the really good audio manufacturers have their entry level speakers at that price point. (like JL, Eclipse, etc)
The total came out to be around $10 per speaker for all 4, so it's all good
So the plan to put the 3ways in the back are ok then? The rear passengers are just along for the ride anyway.

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Old 01-13-2007, 03:43 PM   #8
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Yeah, don't worry about the three-ways. They won't sound horrible. We were just saying that extra tweeter doesn't do much. Those two-ways look kind of cool. They don't look like pioneer's entry level speakers. They probably sound really good compared to some of the other two-way speakers out there...

One thing to do when mounting those up front is to keep that rectangular tweeter horn in mind. You could mount it where the long part is angled vertically, or horizontally, or at a 45 degree angle with the horizon. Each way will make the highs sound a littlle bit different. Since they are mounted low in the doors and that rectangular horn helps guide the sound, you may notice a small difference. Try out the speakers angled different ways...
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Old 01-13-2007, 06:04 PM   #9
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My BE has the upraged speakers in it and that's good enough for me, I'll just add a 12" sub and call it a day.

Not that I'm a bass head, just that it'll do for a while so I can put money into some other things first, THEN do a nice stereo setup
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Old 01-14-2007, 04:24 PM   #10
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My BE has the upraged speakers in it and that's good enough for me, I'll just add a 12" sub and call it a day.

Not that I'm a bass head, just that it'll do for a while so I can put money into some other things first, THEN do a nice stereo setup
you have to start somewhere...
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