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Old 01-16-2007, 05:40 AM   #1
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Default Timing belt change for 97 Legacy L

i'm looking to change the timing belt on a newly purchased Legacy L.. I hear that it is quite simple to do.. I'm not too much of a mechanic but i've turned a wrench or two in the past and from lookin at the writeup on endwrench.com it doesn't seem too difficult..

Inplace of the sprocket wrench, is there any other tool that i can use to hold the sprocket? I don't feel like spending a horrible amount of money..


Also, so far this is the list of things i have which i should change while i'm in there:

Crank Seal
Water Pump
t-belt
belt tensioner adjuster
camshaft seals

Is there anything that i'm missing which i should do while i have it all apart?
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Old 01-16-2007, 10:45 AM   #2
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crank seal as well maybe? It would require a bit more work...
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Old 01-16-2007, 11:56 AM   #3
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valve cover gaskets. Thermostat. Potentially some idler pullies, but you never know until you are in there.

And you don't need any sort of special cam gear tool...
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Old 01-16-2007, 12:09 PM   #4
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By the way, is this an interference motor or not? I've heard both..

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Old 01-16-2007, 12:11 PM   #5
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yes it is
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Old 01-16-2007, 05:23 PM   #6
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Yours is a DOHC motor correct? You'll know by the timing belt cover, if there are two rounds on each side of the motor or one on each side. On my SOHC motor it was an easy job (had to do it twice even!). Definately replace the crank seal. I replaced the crank seals and cam seals, though if you have a DOHC motor, figure out a way to lock the gears because I know mine snapped forward a notch several times while slipping the new belt on.
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Old 01-16-2007, 06:46 PM   #7
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Yours is a DOHC motor correct? You'll know by the timing belt cover, if there are two rounds on each side of the motor or one on each side. On my SOHC motor it was an easy job (had to do it twice even!). Definately replace the crank seal. I replaced the crank seals and cam seals, though if you have a DOHC motor, figure out a way to lock the gears because I know mine snapped forward a notch several times while slipping the new belt on.
EJ22 dude. I don't think they were ever DOHC.
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Old 01-16-2007, 07:36 PM   #8
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2.2 have single over head cams. MC2 How many miles on your car? Timing belt on a single cam is a lot easier than a dual.
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Old 01-16-2007, 08:03 PM   #9
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2.2's did come DOHC. Phase II are DOHC. I know this from looking at "the koreans" car.
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Old 01-16-2007, 09:10 PM   #10
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Ah, okay.

But Phase II didn't come until 99.
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Old 01-18-2007, 08:32 PM   #11
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There are 100K miles on the car, and i don't think it's ever had a timing belt change. I'm actually going to pick it up this Sunday.. so if it is an interference motor i think it's best that i do the t-belt as soon as possible. From what i've read, it should be a SOHC which is the only reason i'm willing to do the t-belt myself.

i read the pdf writeup on endwrench.com and they showed the guy using some special sprocket tool to hodl the cams while taking off the bolt? i've read that i can use a strap wrench to do the trick?

What about the crankshaft pulley? i also saw them using some special tool to hold that
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Old 01-18-2007, 08:54 PM   #12
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Is your car manual or auto?
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Old 01-18-2007, 09:14 PM   #13
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The car is manual.

Also, sorry but looking around at the parts to buy, i noticed there is a tensioner, and a tension adjuster. There is also an assembly which includes both? What is it exactly that i will need to replace?

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Old 01-18-2007, 09:23 PM   #14
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The only reson to replace the tensioner is if its leaking. The only way to know is by taking the timing belt apart. There is a special tool but you could try jaming the fly wheel with a flat head screw driver or put it in gear.
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Old 01-21-2007, 05:39 PM   #15
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Thanks.. Well i got a list of recommended parts to change from subaruparts.com.. and it's a lot more than what i expected!!

1 tensioner
1 tension adjuster
2 belt idlers
1 belt idler number 2


These were the big ticket items in which the total came out over 500 dollars just for parts... At 100K miles, would you guys recommend i change all the above parts? Or can i get away without changing some, particularly the belt idlers?

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Old 01-21-2007, 07:31 PM   #16
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1 tensioner
1 tension adjuster
2 belt idlers
1 belt idler number 2

Thanks!
I did my 98 L at about 120k, and only did the tensioner (and only that because it had blown seals). I inspected all the idler pulleys and saw no problems- they spun freely, evenly, and weren't even dirty. It's good insurance to change them, but I think the 97 2.2 might still be non-interference so it's not the end of the world if they go. If it ain't broke, don't fix it... I'd rather leave in a clean, in-spec, trusted part than put in a brand new part that might go defective a year down the road.

All that said, you can find timing belt kits on ebay for a reasonable price that get you a belt, tensioner, and all the pulleys.
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Old 01-21-2007, 07:45 PM   #17
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Hmm, thanks for the info. As Mark has mentioned above, the 2.2L 97 (and up from what i understand) is an interference motor.

Thanks for the tip on the kit
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If I were you I would change the timing belt, tensioner and replace the crank seal and cam seals. Your not going to need to replace the other idler pulleys.
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Old 01-21-2007, 08:21 PM   #19
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Before you take the belt off, try running the engine with the timing covers off. You'll see instantly whether an idler is wobbly or if the tensioner is doing its job. Just don't stick your hand anywhere...
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Old 01-21-2007, 08:47 PM   #20
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you dont need a sprocket holder. if you look on the passenger side of the motor. near the seem of the motor and tranny, about half way down there is a hole just stick a punch in there and it will hold the flywheel/flexplate while you remove/install crank bolt.
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hi, old thread i found via search, am looking to buy a 99 legacy with an ej22 motor, manual tranny, it has 100k miles. how often do these motors need their timing belts replaced? thanks. i also have questions about what in general to have the mechanic look for in doing the pre-purchase inspection but i might start a separate thread for that... (i just need to make 2 more posts though)
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I believe it's a 105k matinence schedule. Try mysubaru (listed on the Subaru website) for all of your matinence schedules. FYI, you have a phase II EJ22 which is an interference motor that has a few differences from the previous EJ22s.
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thanks, it is indeed 105k... when it's an interference motor, i believe the engine gets severely damaged if the belt fails?
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hmmm. i thought i read somewhere that the 97+ model ej22's were interference motors. man this whole timing belt thing for the legacy is confusing.

i just got a '97 legacy L wagon and i'm trying to do maintenance and i'm debating whether or not i could do the timing belt myself.
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hmmm. i thought i read somewhere that the 97+ model ej22's were interference motors. man this whole timing belt thing for the legacy is confusing.

i just got a '97 legacy L wagon and i'm trying to do maintenance and i'm debating whether or not i could do the timing belt myself.
The 97 is indeed an interference motor. The 99 is a bit different from it, as it's the Phase II EJ22 with a higher CR as well as a few other differences. But the timing belt schedule is the same for both.
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