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Old 11-27-2001, 04:03 PM   #1
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Just installed my whiteline "low" springs, and KYB AGX shocks.
I also have an 18mm rear sway bar and whiteline drop links, along with a whiteline front strut tower bar.
MY00 2.5RS

My question is this: is anyone running the 20-24mm rear bar with this setup?
I'm trying to decide if I should step up to the 20-24mm bar.
With the 18mm and the new setup (2-3F 5-7R) the car is definitely better balanced, and generally pretty good for the street.
I know I am going to want a little more tendency to oversteer in the tight, slow corners (autoX type corners) though.
I can get the car to oversteer in autocross even with the stock rear bar
Can anyone talk to the handling of their cars with the bigger rear bar and this setup?

Did you notice better balance in tight corners while on the gas?

Thanks!!!

edit: anyone with experience in running the KYB/AGX's with larger sway bars in the rear (any springs)? oversteer?
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Old 11-27-2001, 05:08 PM   #2
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i just got the same spring/shocks setup as you about 3 weeks ago, but i also have the whiteline 20-22-24 rear sway bar, currently set to 20mm...haven't tried it on the autoX yet tho, but the car feels great! I could definitely handle some of the curves faster even with the RE92's... I've been messin around with the settings from softest to stiff...haven't tried the stiffest settings yet... but right now i have it at 3 front 6 back and the car handles great around corners, and i haven't been able to toss out the rear end yet with this setting. I'm probably gonna set it back to softer settings cuz my back's starting to hurt! but let me know how your setting is doing!

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Old 11-28-2001, 01:47 PM   #3
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Old 11-28-2001, 02:22 PM   #4
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I've got the AGX/Whiteline combo on my car with an 18-22mm rear adjustable (also Whiteline). It's currently set on 22mm. Releasing gas in curve = oversteer (not just tucking in like the car did with the 13mm or the 18mm bar) which is a strange sensation to get used to but it's a pretty cool sensation in a controlled environment (ie. autocross).

I was actually considering dropping the rear bar down to 20 or so (since the back wants to step out under neutral throttle a little more than I want (especially on the street)) and I can always add oversteer with the AGXes (they are easier to adjust than the sway bar, too). However, since I'm looking at purchasing a Whiteline 22mm front bar now, I'll probably just end up running 22f/22r which should be pretty neutral.

I don't regret getting the adjustable bar though as it's nice to have that capability if it's needed.

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Old 11-30-2001, 01:08 AM   #5
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Warp3, what settings are you running your AGX's at?

I've found 3f 8r to be pretty nice with the 18mm bar.

High speed cornering is simply incredible.

I'm still trying to get the low speed neutrality though.

Bigger bar in the rear may help that, although as you say, it might lead to some unwanted oversteer in the faster stuff.


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Old 11-30-2001, 07:11 PM   #6
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what is the ride quality like of the whiteline springs?
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Old 11-30-2001, 10:16 PM   #7
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Hi All,

I have the same setup for about 1-1/2 years with no probs. If you do plan on getting a 22-24mm rear bar, I'd suggest getting the H/D Rear S/B Mounts. I guess that bar has a tendacy to break the stock mounts.

But it looks like cRayZee has the bigger rear bar without the mounts.

The only thing I do not like about this setup is that it causes the rear end to sit a little TOO low. Plus you need to be careful about the fronts, as the springs are much shorter then the Struts full extension, which causes the top rubber bushing (the one between the springs and the Strut top) to shift and come off the spring.

But all and all I love the setup and for the money it's a good option. I have the setting really soft (1-front, 2or3-rear) for everyday usage. If I go for a spiritied ride, I'd set it to 3-front, and 6or7 rear). Got to love the adjustability of the AGX's.

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Old 12-01-2001, 02:02 AM   #8
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I run 2/4 on the street and 3/7 at autocross currently. 3/7 + 22mm rear bar tends to be a bit tail happy in the fast stuff (like a long sweeper or a curve at the end of a straight)...it's awesome for low speed turns though. It's still easily controllable, and is a nice autocross setup, I'm just not sure I want to run that way on the street all the time.

Oh, BTW, I do have Whiteline endlinks also (front and rear).

I agree with EddyRS, the back does look kinda slammed with the Whitelines while the front looks only a bit below stock height. However, from what I've heard, all the suspensions that were actually specifically designed for the Impreza (ie. designed to make it handle better, not just fit and lower the car) including all the Prodrive setups have the rear sitting lower than the front because the Impreza's chassis works better in that configuration. (I've also heard that due to the body design of the Impreza setting the chassis itself up level actually makes it look like the car is lower in the back, because the body line is at a slightly different angle than the chassis)

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Old 12-01-2001, 09:58 AM   #9
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I too share the opinion that the back looks a little too low.
But, just like you said, suspension that is designed to make the car handle well seems to lower the rear a little more.
For the money $400 for AGX's and $150 for the springs, it's tough to beat this setup.

Thanks for all the information guys!!!
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