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Old 11-27-2001, 03:42 PM   #1
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Default WRX Clutch Problems

First, I had a 91 Legacy for 10 years and the A/T went out twice.
Now the WRX has already gone through a clutch in 4500 miles.

I have never raced it, but have dropped the clutch a couple of times..only twice have I smelled the damn thing. So the flywheel has tiny cracks in it, and the clutch disc fried. So far, so good with the SOA service reps...I have had a rental paid for for over a week.
Incidentally, I asked for a performance clutch and they said there isn't one that is factory backed.

Also, since about 1200 miles, when at a standstill or at a stoplight, when trying to put the gearshift in first from neutral and with the clutch fully depressed (sometimes twice) it GRINDS into first. That it happens intermittently does not make it any less aggravating and annoying. This simply should not happen.

And finally, don't give me or anyone else any more garbage like: "that's just the way subaru is" - BULLS@$T!!
Not only does that give them an excuse to continue with the crappy engineering (at least on what is available to the US consumer), but if true it explains WHY they sell so few cars.

Subaru better watch out if Honda or Toyota ever make an all wheel drive long term production vehicle available in the States.
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Old 11-27-2001, 05:47 PM   #2
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Mine doesn't grind into first, but it does into reverse. I'm talking about the car being at a standstill, clutch fully engaged, and when I flip it into reverse it grinds with a sound that brings tears to my eyes. I'd say it grinds about 1/3 of the times that I shift into reverse.
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Old 11-28-2001, 03:57 PM   #3
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Default Don't be shy...

If you already didn't like Subarus, why did you get another one?
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Old 11-28-2001, 05:19 PM   #4
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Default clutch probs

here we go,

i've read these forums before and if there's one thing i've noticed, some of you people are EXTREMELY sensitive to ANYTHING negative being said about subaru. Get over it.
Besides, I never said anywhere that I didn't like my previous subaru. In fact, I loved it and so did all my friends who had never heard of subaru.
I happen to know techs who have been subaru trained and have worked at a couple of auto shops myself. the first couple of model year legacys had a faulty transmission, thus prompting subaru to make a replacement available for 1600 dollars after warrantee expired. I, being in college did not have 1600 bucks and thus went with a tranny that i purchased at a salvage yard from a 93 legacy. That one chipped a gear in the differential, and then being stupid, I had it rebuilt only to have it fail a couple of months ago.
Then i bought the WRX. maybe i should have waited for the STi.


ANYWAY,

to the person with the grinding reverse gear. i know exactly how it sounds - it happens when you are at a standstill with the clutch fully engaged. i noticed that the only way that it didn't happen was if i shifted into second first, kept the clutch in and then put it in first. i would go point that out to your dealer as soon as possible. i didn't and 2500 miles later it started stuttering at starts (a sure sign of a warped flywheel). i reported this to the dealer and they told me that unless they could duplicate a "real problem" they couldn't do anything. i waited.....a couple of weeks later the damn thing started slipping and smelling really bad.
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Old 11-28-2001, 10:18 PM   #5
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my 1994 Honda Civic EX periodically made that grinding noise while going into reverse and it's gearbox was much less raw in comparison. The 1980 Toyota Tercel that my parents let me drive when I turned 16 also did it every once and awhile. That doesn't worry me and it really shouldn't worry you. The rest of your problems however, should worry you
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Old 11-29-2001, 10:46 AM   #6
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A friend just lost the clutch in his 2001 Celica GTS at 9000 miles. Dealer blamed it on the driver. Friend wrote state's attorney, regional management, and local TV stations to force the issue.

Maybe every manufacturer has its share of bad clutches. Maybe your WRX was the same.
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Old 11-29-2001, 11:57 AM   #7
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I've got news for you all: every manual transmission will grind to some extent into reverse and probably 1st if you let the clutch out in neutral. I'm not entirely sure why, but it has to do with the synchro speeds (and reverse is non-sychro). You are basically trying to connect a spinning transmission shaft to a non-spinning one and the teeth grind. They have to be spinning at matching speeds for it not to grind. I learned all this from my dad who has gotten almost 200,000 miles out of clutches in the last two cars he's owned. (BMW 525 and '88 Saab 900t)

Long story short, move the gearshift to a gear then into reverse and it won't grind.
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Old 11-29-2001, 02:08 PM   #8
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Ccook, I don't think that's how Subaru is. I had a '98 Legacy GT that I flogged like a beast. At 43,000 miles, it still had the original clutch, and had the odd reverse difficulty where it wouldn't slide neatly into gear. On estimate, once every hundred shifts or so. My WRX wagon, approaching 10,000 miles of happy flogging, is a dream.

I don't have any of the problems getting first or reverse that other do, and I have no grinding whatsoever. I'd be into the dealer in a heartbeat if that occurred. At a standstill, I move the lever into reverse, and it just goes there. Period.

I'm glad that Subaru is covering the clutch. They should, especially if there are no signs of abuse, and believe me, they know what to look for.

Good luck with the car,

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Old 11-29-2001, 04:23 PM   #9
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Default Re: clutch probs

Hey, that's just the way i-club is...learn to live with it. :monkey:

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here we go,

i've read these forums before and if there's one thing i've noticed, some of you people are EXTREMELY sensitive to ANYTHING negative being said about subaru. Get over it.
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Old 11-30-2001, 12:28 PM   #10
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Well I just got my car back with a new (and very sensitive) clutch.
Damn, it's really easy to kill it at a stoplight. BUT NO MORE GRINDING into first froma standstill. It hasn't done it in about 20-30 starts and that is a record.
As for grinding into reverse, I agree with a previous poster and think that it's normal. Just about every M/T car I've ever driven does this, and putting it into another gear first works to stop the noise.
I really want people to know that I think the WRX grinding noise (at a stop, putting the gearshift into first with clutch fully depressed) is a precursor to clutch failure. THIS IS NOT NORMAL FOR SUBARU OR ANY CAR...blah blah blah. Get your car looked at if you hear/feel that noise.

WRX-ter, dude, if you don't have anything productive to contribute then **** and read another board - this board is for people having warranty and SOA issues. How old are you?
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Old 12-01-2001, 12:19 AM   #11
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As for grinding into first I have the same problem, as a matter of fact it just happened to me, granted I was NOT at a complete stop but I was slowing down to about 5 mph to downshift into first so I could climb a steep hill and when I had the clutch FULLY depressed I heard that ear crunching grinding sound, my girl heard it too and was "ohh thats bad" but I told her "oh it does that when i try to downshift into first sometimes" lol, whata coverup I wish I knew.

On another note, while driving down the road with 3200 miles my CEL came on with no warning, not while shifting or anything, just BAM, im taking it in tommorow and having them pull the codes. I hope to god these guys are cooler than the guys at the audi dealership where I used to go to.

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Old 12-01-2001, 12:30 AM   #12
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yup when i reverse out of a parking spot i put it into 4th b4 reverse no grinding butsometimes when the car is moving backwards like 3 mph and then i fully depress the clutch pedal and put it straight into 1st i get an occasional grinding! should i come to a complet stop then go into first?
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Old 12-01-2001, 03:15 AM   #13
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I agree with Stewartj76, MY00 RS ocassionally grinds in reverse and first gears. Then I was reading a thread in the i-club forum about shifting to any gear before you shift to reverse and 1st from a stand still. I haven't duplicated the grinding noise in awhile (know on wood). Good luck ccook, I hope subaru fixed your problem.
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Old 08-03-2011, 02:25 PM   #14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stewartj76 View Post
I've got news for you all: every manual transmission will grind to some extent into reverse and probably 1st if you let the clutch out in neutral. I'm not entirely sure why, but it has to do with the synchro speeds (and reverse is non-sychro). You are basically trying to connect a spinning transmission shaft to a non-spinning one and the teeth grind. They have to be spinning at matching speeds for it not to grind. I learned all this from my dad who has gotten almost 200,000 miles out of clutches in the last two cars he's owned. (BMW 525 and '88 Saab 900t)

Long story short, move the gearshift to a gear then into reverse and it won't grind.
This.
You are totally right, and you know it. When you let off the clutch pedal in neutral, the input shaft spins up along with all it's gears and their half of the synchros.
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Old 08-03-2011, 08:22 PM   #15
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bumped a 10 year old thread just to agree?
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