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Old 01-25-2007, 02:28 PM   #1
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Default Wheel spacers, what do you know about them?

Currently I have 18x8.5 +48 ADVAN RGII's and I want them to stick out closer to the fenders. I have camber on my car since it's REALLY low, rolled fenders, and I just want to bring the wheels out so that they barely clear. I was told H & R makes spacers that include longer studs, the question is this:

How big of a spacer can I run without changing studs? Also, is it hard to change studs? Lastly, will I really notice the spacer and will it look out of place?

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Old 01-25-2007, 05:01 PM   #2
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i wouldnt go more than 5mm with stock studs, preferredly 3mm.
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Old 01-25-2007, 06:11 PM   #3
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is 5mm going to be noticable? I mean that would bring me to a +43 so to say, correct?

How hard is it to replace studs?
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Old 01-25-2007, 11:20 PM   #4
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it's hella easy to replace studs homie. just knock them out with a hammer and use either an open ended wheel lug or a correctly threaded nut to torque on the new one until it's fully seated . shouldn't take that long to do all 4 corners
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Old 01-26-2007, 01:06 AM   #5
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it's hella easy to replace studs homie. just knock them out with a hammer and use either an open ended wheel lug or a correctly threaded nut to torque on the new one until it's fully seated . shouldn't take that long to do all 4 corners
You think? Yeah, I really want to look into some spacers. I think it would look super sick if I had my wheels still cambered and so that there was barely any room in between the tire and fender. Too bad Mackin sucks and wouldn't let me get the width and offset I really wanted, ****ers don't make anything good for a 5x100. The widest they could do is a 8.5 which isn't wide enough for LiL D.
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Old 01-26-2007, 01:39 AM   #6
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i got 3mm and never had a problem a friend of mine has 3mm and tracks with them as well and never a problem, only thing is dont go bigger then 5mm
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Old 01-26-2007, 11:34 AM   #7
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i have 25mm on my stock bbs. i had them on since 2003. i at those who say they break bearings. i drive very hard and mostly spirited.
i would only say i have one negative and two positive about having spacers.
the negative thing is that the makes your turning radius worse. what i mean is that when you make a U turn its going to be huge.
the positive is that it makes the wheels look awesome since its very close to the fenders.
also when you drive on high speeds, it makes it a bit more stable because of the wider stance. since i have 25mm on each side, i have about an extra 2 inch of wheel width.


you can get 5mm or 10mm or 15mm or 20mm if they make all those sizes with no issue on lug size. they make it so that it will fit fine. only do the larger spacers will they have the self contained lugs, such as the 25mm and up.

as for your question about your specific size. you need to measure how much more clearance on your particular car you would need. take a ruler and measure horizontally with you car from the the tire to the fender. not the rim cause you want the clearance cleared from the tire. the tire is the peice that will hit the fender so you dont want anything closer then the tire.

also dmoney post up the pic of the wheel and fender area.
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why the hell do you need a 25mm spacer on a stock BBS?

i assume you run mostly on the street?

how many miles are on your car?

and when do you suspect wheel bearings to normally go bad?

when do you suspect your wheel bearings to go bad?

I assume you mean wheel studs and not "lugs"

anyway, running greater than 6mm of spacer is a deathwish for a street driven or raced car on stock wheel studs.

now if it comes with studs on the spacer that's different, not the best but if all you care about is "looks" then go for it....
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Old 01-26-2007, 12:25 PM   #9
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looks.
yes.
alot, cant remember right.
never.
never.
yes. studs not lugs.
no true. again i have these on now and not a single problem. way too much assumption on the boards. (had to say what everyone is thinking) the reason i say this is because if you get really good companies like H&R, they make these properly. they know if it needs to have its own stud or not. i would have to say that it really needs to depend on your setup, but that is another can of worms.
reason is mostly looks.

duude just do what you want and post up what happens that all i have done and youll learn more that way. there will always be a chance of having problems with any mod but there are a good chance it works out that without any issues, that is why most will do it.

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Old 01-26-2007, 12:33 PM   #10
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duude just do what you want and post up what happens that all i have done and youll learn more that way. there will always be a chance of having problems with any mod.
I do post based on experience.

i run a 15mm spacer and ARP wheel studs on my personal car for autox.

i had a friend smoke a set of wheel bearings in his car, which didn't have any "signs" of issues until he had 4 events on 17x8 +35mm and 275 V710s

and he had raced his car prior on r-comps.

the MY05 + has a much better bearing design.

I think it's plain wrong to tell someone there will be "zero" issue on a setup when it isn't physically confirmed.

and we don't know how many miles you put on your car with the spacers, nor do we know how wide your tires are.

either way, good luck and your wheel bearings wont last forever.
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i didnt say its zero issues. as you can see my last post its saying that if you do any mod it has a chance of problems.

just because someone has problems and they drive a street car like a race car doesnt mean its the same stage as the normal street driven car driven hard.

he didnt even post what he does with his ride. if he drives only on the road it will be fine.
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Old 01-26-2007, 12:43 PM   #12
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duude just do what you want and post up what happens that all i have done and youll learn more that way. there will always be a chance of having problems with any mod but there are a good chance it works out that without any issues, that is why most will do it.
i was saying this to dmoney.
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Old 01-26-2007, 01:14 PM   #13
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do you want the wheel spacer just for the looks? or is your car actually going to be driven as intended (circuit, canyon runs, etc). The only one I would consider is a hubcentric adapter with studs
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do you want the wheel spacer just for the looks? or is your car actually going to be driven as intended (circuit, canyon runs, etc). The only one I would consider is a hubcentric adapter with studs




like these with and ARP wheel studs?
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My car rubs right now so I want to bring the wheels out so they stop rubbin the fender liners. lol

Plus it would look sooo much sicker! Who makes a wheel spacer cheap? Can I go with a wider wheel spacer up front then the rear?

949- I added two pics of my car to show you what im talking about. Can you post up pics of your car with the spacers and possible a close up of the spacer?
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Plus it would look sooo much sicker! Who makes a wheel spacer cheap? Can I go with a wider wheel spacer up front then the rear?
how big are you looking to get?

most spacers below 10mm will not have a a "lip" to make the wheel hubcentric to the spacer.

check H&R or you can get custom ones made by a company like CCW (where i got mine).
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ur wheels r rubbing on the fender and u want to bring it even closer to the fender to prevent rubbing?
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Could you roll the lip on your fenders up? Do people do much of that?
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My car rubs right now so I want to bring the wheels out so they stop rubbin the fender liners. lol

Plus it would look sooo much sicker! Who makes a wheel spacer cheap? Can I go with a wider wheel spacer up front then the rear?

949- I added two pics of my car to show you what im talking about. Can you post up pics of your car with the spacers and possible a close up of the spacer?
it will still rub the liners. mine does all the time when i hit a dip. the suspension travel will have it hit unless your spring rate is hard as a rock.

nice wheels by the way. i too just ordered some rg2 too and rock hard suspensions to boot. wheel spacers are not that expensive in the first place. i was thinking of you taking pics of the fender and wheel closer up. on the top, side, bottom, and front of it. but much closer and and put a ruler where the gap is horizontally.

ill take pics next week. and mail them to ya.
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ur wheels r rubbing on the fender and u want to bring it even closer to the fender to prevent rubbing?
It's rubbin the fender liner on the inside when I do a K turn and ****. I want to bring them out further, but keep the car dumped and still tuck tire.

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it will still rub the liners. mine does all the time when i hit a dip. the suspension travel will have it hit unless your spring rate is hard as a rock. What kind of spacers should I get? Thanks for everything, I will just wait on pics.

nice wheels by the way. i too just ordered some rg2 too and rock hard suspensions to boot. wheel spacers are not that expensive in the first place. i was thinking of you taking pics of the fender and wheel closer up. on the top, side, bottom, and front of it. but much closer and and put a ruler where the gap is horizontally.

ill take pics next week. and mail them to ya.
I will take pics, but right now the car is at the body shop getting some paint work and last minute touches for the show next month.
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I want the wheels to sit like this agaist the fender, MAD camber and barely clearing. lol

Obviously this is a race car and has wider wheels with a better offset, but you get the idea. Too bad Mackin is gay and wouldn't make me some 18x9's +35. Beat!!!
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Too bad Mackin is gay and wouldn't make me some 18x9's +35. Beat!!!
since when does mackin make wheels?

how about you upgrade to MY05 hubs and stop complaining.

get some 18x9.5 +40mm

but that's probably too "out there" for ya
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mackin just orders the wheels homie a hub conversion shouldn't be too big a deal for a baller like you or custom made volks
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it's hella easy to replace studs homie. just knock them out with a hammer and use either an open ended wheel lug or a correctly threaded nut to torque on the new one until it's fully seated . shouldn't take that long to do all 4 corners
the rear studs are a bitch! the abs tone ring rides on the hub and must be removed to get the studs out. you pretty much have to pull the whole effing hub. i thought youd just be aable to knock it through too, but now i have a busted abs tone ring aka no ABS. also it will not clear the rear parking brake. the fronts should just pop out but the rear is a PITA
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good call^, i've only done the fronts ,i didn't think about that
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