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Old 01-26-2007, 10:25 AM   #1
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Hi...I am Outback Man and I just love your 1996 L Wagon. I just sold my 1997 Outback Wagon (315,000 miles...really ) and my father gave me his old 1997 Legacy Sedan (97,500 miles). I would like to know exactly what modifications you had to perform to put Outback springs and struts underneath an L Wagon...Thanks for the help in this matter.
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Old 01-26-2007, 11:05 AM   #2
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Subframe spacers and that's about it...the suspension bolts right up.

He also doesn't have the wagon anymore, he owns a nice WRB WRX now
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Old 01-26-2007, 11:22 AM   #3
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well, you dont really "need" the spacers.. they just help with cv angles and stuff.. but you can still use outback stuff and get a boost in the ride height with out them.
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Old 01-26-2007, 12:41 PM   #4
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Hi...I am Outback Man and I just love your 1996 L Wagon. I just sold my 1997 Outback Wagon (315,000 miles...really ) and my father gave me his old 1997 Legacy Sedan (97,500 miles). I would like to know exactly what modifications you had to perform to put Outback springs and struts underneath an L Wagon...Thanks for the help in this matter.

i have been looking at doing this for along time but cannot find any struts. i have seen forester struts bolt up to. but idk if they bolt right up or not.
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Old 01-26-2007, 01:25 PM   #5
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i didn't know there were so many strat81s in here...
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Old 01-26-2007, 03:33 PM   #6
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i didn't know there were so many strat81s in here...
yeah, well, see my post: he doesn't have a Legacy anymore, it's unlikely he'll see this.

He also told me what he did for the install.
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Old 01-26-2007, 04:15 PM   #7
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Can I just use the Outback springs on a set of regular Legacy Wagon struts or do I need to use Outback struts? Also...where do I get the "spacers"? Where do they go and how hard is the instal for an average mechanic?
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Old 01-26-2007, 05:52 PM   #8
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Grab a set out Outback struts and Outback SuS springs.

I *think* the wagon spring would be a bit much for a sedan.
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Old 01-26-2007, 08:50 PM   #9
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Can I just use the Outback springs on a set of regular Legacy Wagon struts or do I need to use Outback struts? Also...where do I get the "spacers"? Where do they go and how hard is the instal for an average mechanic?
outback struts bolt right up until the year 2000, then they came out with multi link i think. you dont need spacers. and all you do is unbolt three nuts on the top of each strut and unbolt them from the rotor. its really easy.
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Old 01-26-2007, 11:57 PM   #10
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i was making a funny.
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Old 01-28-2007, 08:05 PM   #11
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okay...So all I have to do is bolt up some Outback struts and springs and I should be good to go? I guess I have to make a trpi afterwards to the local subaru dealership and get the car realigned. OH...I have another question...Will putting an Outback suspension under my Legacy L hurt my driveline angles? I dont want to have to buy new cj joints every year. If it will hurt the driveline then I am going to put a Legacy L wagon suspension under it.
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Old 01-29-2007, 09:58 AM   #12
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nah its not too serious a change. i've been running my outback lowered for over 2 years and its fine. if you really are worried just install the spacers.
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Old 01-29-2007, 01:09 PM   #13
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okay...So all I have to do is bolt up some Outback struts and springs and I should be good to go? I guess I have to make a trpi afterwards to the local subaru dealership and get the car realigned. OH...I have another question...Will putting an Outback suspension under my Legacy L hurt my driveline angles? I dont want to have to buy new cj joints every year. If it will hurt the driveline then I am going to put a Legacy L wagon suspension under it.
If you're worried about the driveline angles, install the spacers.

It's unlikely you'll have problems, it's only a 2.5" lift.
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Old 01-30-2007, 07:18 PM   #14
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damn... sorry i missed this post...

you need the struts (the lower perches are mounted higher on the strut body which is what gives the outback it's lift)

you don't need the cradle spacers but they help with the alignment and may give you a little extra lift (i never got around to them but the car will get within factory alignment specs without them)

hope that helps
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Old 01-31-2007, 09:31 AM   #15
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I really appreciate everyone's help in this matter. And thankyou for getting back to me Strat81, I really appreciate your help because I wanted to see a car done the way I wanted to do to my Scooby before I did it myself. You Scooby wagon kicks butt. Everyone in this community is extremely helpful. I also greatly welcome anyones help when I ask questions (even if they aren't Strat81 ). Thanks again everyone for the help. The Scooby will be lifted soon, the way it should have come from the factory. Will post pictures as soon as the car is done. By the way...where can I buy the spacers that Strat81 is talking about?
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Old 01-31-2007, 09:52 AM   #16
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the spacers are really more trouble then they are worth. you will have to drop the rear subframe as well as the front crossmember to install them. you can order them from subaru or find someone who is parting out an outback.
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Old 01-31-2007, 12:53 PM   #17
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Outback Man, meet Duff Man. OOOOHHhhhhhh YYYYEEeaaahhh

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Old 01-31-2007, 05:59 PM   #18
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probably be cheapest if you can track them down at a junkyard. i'd assume a subaru dealer would have them too. i'll ask my buddy that works at w&l if he can get a part number for them.

dropping the subframe really shouldn't be that complicated. my guess is you can probably put in one spacer at a time (i'm speculating as i've never done them but on most cars the subframe has some give and flex to it...) and not have to drop the whole subframe...

glad you like my wagon... i no longer have her but i still see her often as a coworker bought her.
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Old 01-31-2007, 06:21 PM   #19
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Okay...I am going to install the struts and coil springs without the spacers and see how it goes. As long as I can get the car within alignment specs without the troublesome spacers, I am going to do that. Will have to wait for some warmer weather to go out and perform the install. Thanks everyone. I'll keep you posted.
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Old 01-31-2007, 07:15 PM   #20
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FYI, forester suspension bolts right up. I put 04 FXT complete assemblies on a 97 outback and the ride height was essentially unchanged but ride quality was a fair bit nicer.
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Old 01-31-2007, 07:33 PM   #21
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so Ten80...You are saying I can bolt a 1998 Subaru Forester suspension to my 1997 Subaru Lecacy L and get the ride height that I want but have a better ride. That might work. I am keeping all options open. I know of a particular 98 Forester near home that the friend wrecked but was going to put a brand new suspension under but did not get the chance to put the suspension under it. He says he'll sell me all four coils and stuts for $100 for the lot. Let me know what you think. Buying the Forester suspension will save me alot of money .
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Old 01-31-2007, 09:03 PM   #22
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as long as the rear top hats have the same, "large" bolt pattern, you are AOK. If I remember correctly, 1998 foresters had the "small" pattern, similar to GC imprezas, so I don't think that they wouldn't work for you. AFAIK, foresters changed to the large bolt pattern in 02'.
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Old 02-01-2007, 12:35 AM   #23
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the forrester struts should work fine...

you should check out ultimatesubaru.org

they have an offroading section that has a ton of info about lifting/building offroaders out of subarus.
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Old 02-01-2007, 09:14 AM   #24
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I went home an found an e-mail waiting for me from the Scooby dealership near home. They have a suspension setup for a 1997 Scooby Outback that someone ordered two years ago but never picked up. They never prepaid for the parts so the dealership cant send the parts back to the warehouse for some reason The wrote to me that all four struts and coils will cost $175 from them. I think I am going to run up there tomorrow and pick them up. The forester suspension is cheaper but the only true Scooby genuine parts are the coils. The suspension from the dealership is all genuine parts. I have a very good friend I went to school has now become the parts manager and is willing to cut me the deal on the Outback parts. He says if I want the spacers he will throw them in free of charge . Sounds like a good deal to me. Let me know what you think.
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Old 02-01-2007, 11:49 AM   #25
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yes that is a good deal for sure. $175 for struts and springs?!?! do it!
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