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Old 01-28-2007, 01:45 AM   #1
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Default Mounting spare tires on spare wheels via flame method...

Has anyone done this? I've seen it done quite a few times but never knew exactly how it was done. I'd like to see if I can mount them myself using this method. I'm assuming I would have to spray the inside of the wheel with a flammable liquid (lighter fluid?), mount the tire on as far as I can get it on the wheel, then leave a thin stream of fluid on the ground so I can light it from a distance. Tell me if it's really this easy and what the actual risks are. I will have a bucket of water nearby lol

By the way, I searched for this under "fire" and "mount tire" but no luck.
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Old 01-28-2007, 02:01 AM   #2
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I've seen it done w/ ether, but I've never done it. The tire was off the bead and needed to be re-seated. The dude emptied a can of starter fluid into the tire around the wheel then held an open flame near it and *BLAM* the gas exploded and caused the tire to seat on the rim.

It is really dangerous to do and it isn't easy at all.
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Old 01-28-2007, 02:03 AM   #3
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macgyver much?
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Old 01-28-2007, 11:22 AM   #4
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idk about a spare...
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Old 01-28-2007, 11:26 AM   #5
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No, I didn't mean "spare" as in a donut. I meant that I just got a set of wheels and tires for dirt cheap and I'd like to try this out method. Anyone have a better idea or description on how to do it?
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Old 01-28-2007, 04:05 PM   #6
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Anyone else?
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Old 01-28-2007, 06:30 PM   #7
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Old 01-28-2007, 06:51 PM   #8
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it's like 20 bux to get tires mounted on "loose" wheels...
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Old 01-28-2007, 09:16 PM   #9
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Holy crap I almost pissed myself watching those vids funny stuff. I def. would not do it like that
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Old 01-29-2007, 12:38 AM   #10
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Except for almost collapsing the tire, this is exactly what it looks like when the pros do it. I think the pros leave the valve out of the stem.
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Old 01-29-2007, 12:49 AM   #11
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are you unable to bead them properly or does this just look like a cool way to do it ?
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Old 01-29-2007, 04:24 AM   #12
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Make sure you pull the valve stem out, or you may get 100 psi in the tire really quick. I carried a propane torch with me when riding quads, and popped the bead a few times, it works well, but if you have a choice do it on the machine, I burnt up an eyebrow doing it. And for god sakes do not use lighter fluid, only propane or eather. and not a bunch. If you are out on a trail that is!
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Old 01-29-2007, 08:28 AM   #13
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Please video tape when you try it. And make sure there's a someone around to call 911. This seems like such a bad idea, just to save a few $'s.
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Old 01-29-2007, 08:54 AM   #14
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Please video tape when you try it. And make sure there's a someone around to call 911. This seems like such a bad idea, just to save a few $'s.
exactly, it's crazy this is the first time i've ever heard of this!...

how exactly does it work ? if anyone wants to take the time to break it down to me.
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Old 01-29-2007, 10:09 AM   #15
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Please video tape when you try it. And make sure there's a someone around to call 911. This seems like such a bad idea, just to save a few $'s.
It is not always to save a few $$.

I have done it out on the trail when the compressor wouldn't set the bead. Pulling the valve core out of a 31" tire isn't nessesary as long as you don't go crazy with the fluid. I just bolted the wheel back up to the truck so it wouldn't go anywhere if a part of the wheel failed.


When it is below 0*F you don't even need to spray anything into the tire, a lighter and some WD in the form of a flame thrower will do it!
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Old 01-29-2007, 10:20 AM   #16
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use spray ether spray inside tire for 5-10secs. then light using stick with flaming rags at the end. use stick about 4 ft long as so not to get burnt. this is what we do offroad to set beads. This works very well with larger tires but I am not sure how it will work with tires for your subaru.
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Old 01-29-2007, 11:28 AM   #17
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Yea, it was just an idea since I have extra tires and extra wheels laying around. I always wanted to try it but I don't want to be one of those idiots on Break.com missing fingers lol
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Old 01-30-2007, 04:51 PM   #18
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But really, has anyone personally tried this? I'd like to know the details of it.
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Make sure you pull the valve stem out, or you may get 100 psi in the tire really quick
You mean the check-valve inside the valve stem right? Since the valve stem needs to be put on the rim before the tire.

I've never used the ether method but I have seated the bead by wrapping a rope around the curcumference of the tread and using a pipe like a tourniquet
to squeeze the tread so that it buldges out the side wall. Then use an air valve that flows a large volume of air to set the bead.

Getting a tire to bead on the rim is the easy part (unless you are going for that stretched look), the hard part is getting the tire ON the rim.
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Getting a tire to bead on the rim is the easy part (unless you are going for that stretched look), the hard part is getting the tire ON the rim.
That's what I'd think.

I'll stick to paying $2/per to the local garage to mount my tires.
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You mean the check-valve inside the valve stem right? Since the valve stem needs to be put on the rim before the tire.

I've never used the ether method but I have seated the bead by wrapping a rope around the curcumference of the tread and using a pipe like a tourniquet
to squeeze the tread so that it buldges out the side wall. Then use an air valve that flows a large volume of air to set the bead.

Getting a tire to bead on the rim is the easy part (unless you are going for that stretched look), the hard part is getting the tire ON the rim.
This way of beading a tire is more for 4x4 and offroad guys. It is also an emergency tecnique. Truck tires can be extremely hard to bead due to the amount of air it takes to fill them.

plus if you are in a car you aren't going to be where a towtruck can't get to you. Or if you are, you are most likely screwed anyway.
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Those dudes in the artic do that stuff when there 4x4's tires fall off the rims. They run like 2 psi in there tires and its below 0 out..which forces them to use the lighter fluid trick
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Those dudes in the artic do that stuff when there 4x4's tires fall off the rims. They run like 2 psi in there tires and its below 0 out..which forces them to use the lighter fluid trick
yeah, iceland hasn't caught on to beadlocks or anything
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no, like ant-artica

i saw some show on the discovery channel or TLC and they showed those guys using that technique to re-mount the tires
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no, like ant-artica

i saw some show on the discovery channel or TLC and they showed those guys using that technique to re-mount the tires
The show you watched was about icelandic trucks in the Arctic.

Google Arctic trucks or Iceland trucks


they do some pretty cool things, but somehow haven't figured out beadlocks
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