Welcome to the North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club Friday July 25, 2014
Home Forums WikiNASIOC Products Store Modifications Upgrade Garage
Click here to visit TireRack
Tire & Wheel Forum sponsored by The Tire Rack

Losing traction? Need new tires?
Click here to visit the NASIOC Upgrade Garage...
Here you can view your subscribed threads, work with private messages and edit your profile and preferences Home Registration is free! Visit the NASIOC Store NASIOC Rules Search Find other members Frequently Asked Questions Calendar Archive NASIOC Upgrade Garage Logout
Go Back   NASIOC > NASIOC Technical > Tire & Wheel

Welcome to NASIOC - The world's largest online community for Subaru enthusiasts!
Welcome to the NASIOC.com Subaru forum.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, free of charge, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-03-2007, 08:17 AM   #1
Uncle Scotty
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 16200
Join Date: Mar 2002
Vehicle:
OK Houston
we have an Uncle

Default Federal 595 RS initial impressions....

DISCLAIMER!!!!!!!!!!
I GOT THESE TIRES AS A GIFT SO DO NOT ASK ME HOW MUCH I PAYED FOR THEM ! ! ! ! ! ! !



OK...With that out of the way......I have the FEDERAL 595 RS in 235/40 - 17 on 17 x 7.5" wheels on my '06 WRX

Initial impressions.......

These tires are WIDE for their size......at LEAST as wide as a 'normal' 245/40(see specs)
They 'bulge' a(good) bit on the 7.5" wide wheel and IMO are TOO WIDE for a 7.5" wheel for best performance...a 225/45 would be a better choice for a 7.5" wheel.

These tires are very quiet, at full or near full tread depth, on most pavement(so far)......in the wet, they 'hiss' a bit and make 'tires on wet road' kinds of noises---about like the 451's, but less dry road noise.
These tires 'ride' well for this type of tire...but....
They do 'flat spot' a bit after sitting and if that bothers you, disregard these tires.
They seem to do quite well with cold temperatures----it was in the upper 30's locally and they weren't rock hard like the Falken 215's were at similar temperatures.

I have not had the chance to really jam on these tires as my suspension is awaiting some new strut tops and I don't have as much camber/caster as I'd like....BUT.....

DRY....these tires grip VERY well....as well or better than anything I've ever had on my WRX's( 215's, Z212's, 451's, MX's)----at or near full tread depth....AND....and a very important consideration for ME is that they do NOT squeal like a pig when pushed moderately---and thus alerting the pigs to any road going shenanigans
I was able to get a bit of a slide out of them on several of my favorite ramps, but they are controllable and forgiving......they slid a bit until the excess speed was scrubbed off and just went back to work without any complaint.

WET......these tires are NOT a 'wet' tire....but at full tread, they seem to do OK, although I have not 'pushed' them in the rain as I wasn't able to get to my 'skid pad' when it rained, this week


Conclusion...at or near full tread....
These tires ARE a bit 'mushy'....but I'm not at all sure that the reason isn't that they may be on a too narrow wheel and still at full tread depth...and ~40psi. A bit more pressure may help.

These may not be a great autox tire, but they may make a great dry street tire---IF---


IF you can find them, and at what price????

Just don't ask me---I don't know these answers.



http://www.federaltire.com/en/html/p...DB=motosports#

OK...found them listed as a 'special order' below....dunno any details.

http://www.tires-easy.com/start.html
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

Last edited by Uncle Scotty; 06-19-2007 at 12:37 AM.
Uncle Scotty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2007, 11:58 AM   #2
REX8
*** Banned ***
 
Member#: 24038
Join Date: Sep 2002
Chapter/Region: South East
Location: Godspeed Cale...
Default

A softer sidewall doesn't rule it out for autox...take the Rs-2. I'd think if anything, people would certainly be interested in it for competition, maybe a long lasting track tire.

If they have the same or better grip than 215's and the RS-2's, then they'd make a great autox tire.

I know no questions, but you should at least know who gave them to you as a gift. How hard could it be to track down their origin?
REX8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2007, 11:46 PM   #3
McMoo
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 140065
Join Date: Feb 2007
Default

I've been searching forever for a review on them, this is the only one I've found. They're available on prosteetonline, I can't post the link because I just signed up and need 8 posts to post a link. Prices seem pretty good, comparable to 615's and mx's. Just need some people to buy them.
McMoo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2007, 11:55 PM   #4
REX8
*** Banned ***
 
Member#: 24038
Join Date: Sep 2002
Chapter/Region: South East
Location: Godspeed Cale...
Default

.........

Last edited by REX8; 02-08-2007 at 12:12 AM.
REX8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2007, 11:58 PM   #5
REX8
*** Banned ***
 
Member#: 24038
Join Date: Sep 2002
Chapter/Region: South East
Location: Godspeed Cale...
Default

http://www.prostreetonline.com/feder...5rs_tires.html

Pretty good 17" sizes...235 and 255, but the 16" sizes are lacking. Do we really need a 205 50 AND a 205 45? What a waste. How about a 225 instead?

BUY THEM AND TRY THEM!!! THEY WILL BRING MORE!!!

Last edited by REX8; 02-08-2007 at 12:03 AM.
REX8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2007, 12:09 AM   #6
REX8
*** Banned ***
 
Member#: 24038
Join Date: Sep 2002
Chapter/Region: South East
Location: Godspeed Cale...
Default



Grrr baby....very grrr
REX8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2007, 05:57 PM   #7
jamesohoh7
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 39070
Join Date: Jun 2003
Chapter/Region: TXIC
Location: Strongbadia
Vehicle:
--
GTF off my lawn!

Default

no 245/45/17 or 245/40/17 ... meh.
jamesohoh7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2007, 06:24 PM   #8
REX8
*** Banned ***
 
Member#: 24038
Join Date: Sep 2002
Chapter/Region: South East
Location: Godspeed Cale...
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jamesohoh7 View Post
no 245/45/17 or 245/40/17 ... meh.
Bad for ST classes, but 235 is still a popular choice for those guys. 255's for the track...not too shabby.
REX8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2007, 06:50 PM   #9
Uncle Scotty
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 16200
Join Date: Mar 2002
Vehicle:
OK Houston
we have an Uncle

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jamesohoh7 View Post
no 245/45/17 or 245/40/17 ... meh.
...trust me...the 235/40 is WIDE
Uncle Scotty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2007, 06:59 PM   #10
Uncle Scotty
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 16200
Join Date: Mar 2002
Vehicle:
OK Houston
we have an Uncle

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by McMoo View Post
I've been searching forever for a review on them, this is the only one I've found. They're available on prosteetonline, I can't post the link because I just signed up and need 8 posts to post a link. Prices seem pretty good, comparable to 615's and mx's. Just need some people to buy them.
...well....GRM will have one soon

their review may(will) differ from mine, I think...remember.....my review is based on STREET use....NOT autox


...oh yeah...did I mention that these tires are VERY quiet

Last edited by Uncle Scotty; 02-09-2007 at 07:43 AM.
Uncle Scotty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2007, 09:30 PM   #11
semaj
I'm sorry for apologizing
Moderatour
 
Member#: 113533
Join Date: Apr 2006
Chapter/Region: VIC
Location: Vancouver, BC
Vehicle:
2006 Pathfinder
Off Road

Default

Bump...for no 225/45/17
semaj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2007, 09:44 PM   #12
Uncle Scotty
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 16200
Join Date: Mar 2002
Vehicle:
OK Houston
we have an Uncle

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by semaj View Post
Bump...for no 225/45/17
...the 225/45-17 IS listed on Federals website
Uncle Scotty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2007, 09:51 PM   #13
semaj
I'm sorry for apologizing
Moderatour
 
Member#: 113533
Join Date: Apr 2006
Chapter/Region: VIC
Location: Vancouver, BC
Vehicle:
2006 Pathfinder
Off Road

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Scotty View Post
...the 225/45-17 IS listed on Federals website
Thanks for that Uncle Scotty...I only saw the prostreetonline site. This is one of the tires I have had my eye on as my Kumho MX replacement for auto-x.
semaj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2007, 09:57 PM   #14
Uncle Scotty
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 16200
Join Date: Mar 2002
Vehicle:
OK Houston
we have an Uncle

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by semaj View Post
Thanks for that Uncle Scotty...I only saw the prostreetonline site. This is one of the tires I have had my eye on as my Kumho MX replacement for auto-x.
....meh....there are better tires for autox, methinks
Uncle Scotty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2007, 11:04 PM   #15
pityr
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 31719
Join Date: Jan 2003
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: Portland
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Scotty View Post
...the 225/45-17 IS listed on Federals website
I rant that size on my WRX until I had to replace them. Great tire for the money. Similar tread pattern the Toyo T1s. Great grip in the dry, ok grip in the wet and fairly quiet. I think they around around $100 a tire as well.

I plan on using these on my forester but with a 235/45/18. cost at Les Schwab is about $600 mounted and balanced for all 4.
pityr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2007, 02:17 AM   #16
semaj
I'm sorry for apologizing
Moderatour
 
Member#: 113533
Join Date: Apr 2006
Chapter/Region: VIC
Location: Vancouver, BC
Vehicle:
2006 Pathfinder
Off Road

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Scotty View Post
....meh....there are better tires for autox, methinks
Of course, but I need to DD and auto-x on the same tire/wheel combo
semaj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2007, 11:06 AM   #17
elucas730
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 42714
Join Date: Sep 2003
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Apalachin, NY
Vehicle:
'07 BMW 335i E90

Default

bumpity...
Local tire place sold me on the SS595 (not the 595 RS). Here's the pic:



I was looking for something that sacrifices some grip for a little better wear. I should get quite a few more miles out of the SS595 over the RE070s. Not planning on auto-x (or, if I do, I don't plan on being competitive). I actually bought two sets: 225/45-17 for the STi and 225/45-18 for the RX-8. $100 each (mounted and balanced) for the STi and $120 for the RX-8. We'll see how good they are...
elucas730 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2007, 02:51 PM   #18
caterpill
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 27136
Join Date: Oct 2002
Default

Hey Scotty, do you have time to take some pictures of the profile, sidewall bulge you speak of?
caterpill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2007, 09:15 PM   #19
pornie
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 5620
Join Date: Apr 2001
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: MKE
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by caterpill View Post
Hey Scotty, do you have time to take some pictures of the profile, sidewall bulge you speak of?
+1 grassy ass senorita
pornie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2007, 11:38 AM   #20
Uncle Scotty
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 16200
Join Date: Mar 2002
Vehicle:
OK Houston
we have an Uncle

Default

OK...I FOUND A PLACE THAT CAN(try to) ORDER THESE....

http://www.tires-easy.com/start.html

They list this tire as a 'special order' item.....and they list the 225/45-17
Uncle Scotty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2007, 11:38 PM   #21
Uncle Scotty
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 16200
Join Date: Mar 2002
Vehicle:
OK Houston
we have an Uncle

Default

...oh yeah....

I'm STILL amazed at how quiet thest tires are
Uncle Scotty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2007, 11:42 PM   #22
poison
NASIOC Supporter
 
Member#: 37678
Join Date: May 2003
Chapter/Region: SCIC
Default

i'm amazed at how loud my RS2's are. I'm jealous. I couldn't hold a cell conversation on the road tonight.
poison is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2007, 01:41 AM   #23
Uncle Scotty
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 16200
Join Date: Mar 2002
Vehicle:
OK Houston
we have an Uncle

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by poison View Post
i'm amazed at how loud my RS2's are. I'm jealous. I couldn't hold a cell conversation on the road tonight.
....well.....I have found that ANY alignment issues---toe being the worst.....will cause excessive road noise in these cars.

I played with the toe until I got it EXACTLY where I wanted it and by rotating the tires every oil change, I have kept the noise (with other tires) to a minimum until they were almost gone and got loud due to THAT issue.....


I'm really liking these Federals for the street.....LOTS of grip....SILENT compared to many UHP/MAX performance tires....and at least the initial wear seems to be far better than I had expected for a tire rated at 180.
Uncle Scotty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2007, 10:36 AM   #24
poison
NASIOC Supporter
 
Member#: 37678
Join Date: May 2003
Chapter/Region: SCIC
Default

Uh, my toe IS a hair off. heh, there I go.
poison is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2007, 11:14 AM   #25
Uncle Scotty
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 16200
Join Date: Mar 2002
Vehicle:
OK Houston
we have an Uncle

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by poison View Post
Uh, my toe IS a hair off. heh, there I go.
....dismount them and 'flip' them and get the toe set right and ya may burn off some of the feather edge.

I had some HTRz II's that got SO LOUD that it drove me crazy---I took them off at ~1/2 tread and threw them away....and the front toe was .04/.09...and THAT did it
Uncle Scotty is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
FS: Federal 595s 235/40/18 90% left thinkofone28 SCIC Private Classifieds 1 10-30-2008 04:13 AM
fs: 235 40 18 federal 595 ss 250 subylovesb SCIC Private Classifieds 20 09-02-2008 07:58 PM
225/45/17 Falken FK-452 vs. Federal 595-SS vs. your recommendation Dobbs Tire & Wheel 6 08-12-2008 08:20 PM
Federal 595 questions blahhblahh Tire & Wheel 0 05-28-2008 11:49 PM
RS to WRX Brake Conversion- Info & Initial Impressions DrBoy01 Brakes, Steering & Suspension 0 05-18-2005 11:38 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:04 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2014 Axivo Inc.
Copyright ©1999 - 2014, North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club, Inc.