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Old 02-05-2007, 06:29 PM   #1
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...anyone doing this? Recommended/not recommended?

I currently have Michelin PS2's and was looking at either getting another set of PS2's or possibly the new RE01R's.

The RT-615's are about $100 less per tire and seem to have similar specs, so I wanted to find more info on them. My car is daily driven and goes about 10 miles a day and also sees about 3-4 track days a year in the summer (doesnt get driven in snow though, just some rain)

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Old 02-05-2007, 07:05 PM   #2
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im doing that right now. they're a bit harsh and noisy, other than that they're fine for daily driving.
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Old 02-05-2007, 07:22 PM   #3
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They are just fine, as long as you dont get too much moisture and the temps stay up.

I don't know if I would DD on them in Wash State though...out here in the desert its fine.
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Old 02-05-2007, 07:49 PM   #4
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im doing that right now. they're a bit harsh and noisy, other than that they're fine for daily driving.
How are they in the rain?
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Old 02-06-2007, 01:05 AM   #5
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...anyone doing this? Recommended/not recommended?

I currently have Michelin PS2's and was looking at either getting another set of PS2's or possibly the new RE01R's.

The RT-615's are about $100 less per tire and seem to have similar specs, so I wanted to find more info on them. My car is daily driven and goes about 10 miles a day and also sees about 3-4 track days a year in the summer (doesnt get driven in snow though, just some rain)

Any input appreciated.
I'm in your same position, except I have a set of 615s already sitting on some 5Zigen wheels in my living room...just haven't put em on yet. I imagine they'd be OK in the rain, if you consider stock STis are running around WA with similar tires w/o problems. However, the recent ice/snow scared the **** outta me and that was with KDWs, which are made for rain. I found myself in a few very mild slides around Aurora ave, while coming to a stop. I did make it up hills, but there was an initial bit of slippage. I think i'm gonna wait a few more months when there's no more chance of ice/snow to put em on, just to be safe.
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Old 02-06-2007, 01:43 AM   #6
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im sure they're decent for a daily, as ive seen multiple cars at all of our meets running falkens, and i plan on doing the same this summer on my RS. as for the winter, if you spring for falkens you MUST get some sort of winter tire or at the very least a good all season during the wet months. i drove through the snow and ice on my kumho spt's which are performance all seasons and had one hell of a time. im still looking for better tires just in case we get hit again. and id imagine they do ok in the rain.
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Old 02-06-2007, 01:57 AM   #7
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im sure they're decent for a daily, as ive seen multiple cars at all of our meets running falkens, and i plan on doing the same this summer on my RS. as for the winter, if you spring for falkens you MUST get some sort of winter tire or at the very least a good all season during the wet months. i drove through the snow and ice on my kumho spt's which are performance all seasons and had one hell of a time. im still looking for better tires just in case we get hit again. and id imagine they do ok in the rain.
SPT's are not all-seasons! They are summers.
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Old 02-06-2007, 02:08 AM   #8
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I ran my 615's daily for a long time. They are pretty damn good in the rain, as i've auto-x'd two rain events with them. Grip city.
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Old 02-06-2007, 02:50 AM   #9
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i've heard good things about the falkens they're a pretty aggressive tire for the street though, you'll grind em pretty quick.
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Old 02-06-2007, 03:11 AM   #10
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I just bought a set of 615'a and they will be here Thursday. The 615's are what all my friends swear by.
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Old 02-06-2007, 11:32 AM   #11
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Ran them for 10,000 miles in our climate, rain and cold, and more rain. As mentioned before they are little loud but you can tolerate them. As for the rain and roads we have here I would no doubt have a set of winter tires and wheels as they got a little older the worse they got in the rain especialy freeway speeds. 1st 1/2 was fine 2nd half made me want to stay off the freeway when it was raining.
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Old 02-06-2007, 12:10 PM   #12
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I can't speak for the 615s yet, but I've ran my 215s in most conditions. They should be somewhat similar in terms of behavior.

They were fine for me on the street and at the track. I even ran them at the track in the rain just fine. They were a little noisy on the street, but it's a small price to pay for the grip they give you.
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Old 02-06-2007, 01:05 PM   #13
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currently running 615s for about two weeks, they are less noisy than the stock STi rubber but they don't grip as well in the rain. They are a good dd tire as far as I can see.
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Old 02-06-2007, 02:19 PM   #14
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I daily drive my 615's and love them. They work fine in the rain and have tons of grip. They last far longer than the re070s as well.
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Old 02-06-2007, 02:59 PM   #15
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Thanks for all the feedback..I think I am going to give them a try
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Old 02-07-2007, 07:14 PM   #16
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I daily drive my 615's and love them. They work fine in the rain and have tons of grip. They last far longer than the re070s as well.
You said the 615's last longer than the RE070's? There must be some serious problem with my car.
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You said the 615's last longer than the RE070's? There must be some serious problem with my car.
I have never used the 615's but I did put 27,000 miles on the RE070's on a daily driver with the occasional spirited driving and they were still in fairly decent condition.

Are the 615's a better performance tire than the RE070 or would that be downgrading the tire.
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Old 02-07-2007, 09:00 PM   #18
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I have never used the 615's but I did put 27,000 miles on the RE070's on a daily driver with the occasional spirited driving and they were still in fairly decent condition.

Are the 615's a better performance tire than the RE070 or would that be downgrading the tire.
It's a "get what you pay for" type of thing. I know quite a few folks at the autox that run them in STU (predominantly STIs) and most if not all say the stock RE070 is the superior tire when it comes to initial turn-in and quick transition changes. Most of these folks also say they wear out faster then stock but is still worth it, based on value/price point of view.

Now, I was initially going to go with these tires but opted for Falken FKs since I daily drive 300+ miles/week here in Houston, in which on any given day, it'll down poor. The advice I was given by fellow autoxers was, if these were your only tire and you had to commute daily over a distance at freeway speeds, do not get them. They're loud, and yes grippy, when it's dry, but require extra attention when it rains.

For a daily high performance, I would try something like a Dunlop Sport Max or the RE014Rs.
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It's a "get what you pay for" type of thing. I know quite a few folks at the autox that run them in STU (predominantly STIs) and most if not all say the stock RE070 is the superior tire when it comes to initial turn-in and quick transition changes. Most of these folks also say they wear out faster then stock but is still worth it, based on value/price point of view.

For a daily high performance, I would try something like a Dunlop Sport Max or the RE014Rs.

You're only looking at one aspect of performance. Most autoxers agree the 615's have more outright grip than the 070's, although, as you said, they don't have as stiff a sidewall.

From a motorsports perspective, drivers will take stick over turn-in feel anyday.
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I am on my 2nd set of 615's. I like them better overall than the REO70's . I thought the Bridgestones did perform better but they scared me in the rain. The Falken's are not much better but perform almost as well as the Bridgestones. They are plenty stiff enough for me. I take them off for autoX and run SM class with Kumho V710's. Someday I'd like to leave them on for a day but I can't afford that.
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You're only looking at one aspect of performance. Most autoxers agree the 615's have more outright grip than the 070's, although, as you said, they don't have as stiff a sidewall.

From a motorsports perspective, drivers will take stick over turn-in feel anyday.
agreed 100%, I bought the 615's solely for auto-x, and am just too lazy to switch to OEM tires between events so i DD them. They have serious stick when they're heated up, I like them a whole lot better than re070's, as i've ran both on the same day.

That said, if i didn't do any track racing, you can probably find a longer lasting street tire. Chances are you won't reach the limits of 615's on the street.
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Well, I'm pointing out the RT's strengths in comparisons to RE070s and his current tire, as the OP could/can relate to or to at least give him a perspective from what he has experienced. Also, his main objective is to find something that'll give max "grip", as a daily, given the various conditioned climate that he, along with others from the same region have posted, would encounter.
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You said the 615's last longer than the RE070's? There must be some serious problem with my car.
I would say I am getting 75% more life from the falkens than the potenzas. Deffinitely a big difference.

I drove the potenzas february to october and threw them away.

I drove the falkens march to november and still have like 30-40% life left, they will probably make it halfway through next summer. I put on about 21k miles a year. Do 10 auto-x a year and maybe 30 drag runs.

Icant really compare the grip levels cause the potenzas were 225s and the falkens are 245's.
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I would say I am getting 75% more life from the falkens than the potenzas. Deffinitely a big difference.

I drove the potenzas february to october and threw them away.

I drove the falkens march to november and still have like 30-40% life left, they will probably make it halfway through next summer. I put on about 21k miles a year. Do 10 auto-x a year and maybe 30 drag runs.

Icant really compare the grip levels cause the potenzas were 225s and the falkens are 245's.
what size rim are you running your 245's on? I have an 18x8 SSR GT7-H, currently have 225/40's but was thinking about stepping up to a 235/40 with the RT-615's...

How's the weather in Mass? They hold up decent in your various climates over there (outside of snow)??
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Excellent in the dry and temps above 40 degrees. Absolutely suck in the rain, I have to drive like Grandma so I dont crash, but other than that i love em.
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