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Old 02-07-2007, 02:10 PM   #1
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Question Tire Opinion (Apologies)

I apologize if this kind of thing has been beaten to death before but I don't see anything relating to my specifc needs in this thread.

I'm running a set of 17x8.5 SSR rims on my '05 STI. I have a Cobb Stage 2 suspension package. Last year I tried some Perelli PZero Corsa's of the size 255/40R17. They were awesome tires, I ran them on the track for fun. The only problem was I think I could give up a little bit of traction for slightly more tread life. It's the compromise I want.

I've been eyeing some Bridgestone RE-01R's 245/40R17, or possibly RE050A Pole Position in 255/40R17.

Maybe the RE-01R's are stickier than the Pole Positions, but RE-010R'2 dont come in 255/40R17 so maybe the Pole positions would provide just as much traction in 255/40R17's.

I'm trying to find something that is a little less sticky than R compound, don't care about wet traction, and could survive 8,000 to 10,000 of heavy use. I onll plan on going to the track a couple times this year.

I am initially thinking the Pole Position @ 255/40R17's are a good compromise compared to the slightly narrower RE-010R's. Doesn't appear to be hardly anything else in 255/40R17, but that size runs quite nicely on my rims.

So are their some other tires I should consider? or are the slightly wider Pole Positions going to be equal or better to all other 245's in this performance range? I think my performance range is just something with a little more life than 60AA, possibly 140AA.

Your opinions are appreciated.

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Old 02-07-2007, 03:20 PM   #2
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Don't forget to check out Yokohama's advan neova ad07 treadwear 140. Only trick is you must keep them warmer than 14 degrees in the winter or you run the risk of damaging the tire.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....e1=yes&place=3

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Old 02-07-2007, 03:51 PM   #3
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....other choices that the SCCA Street Touring classes all attract to...

Bridgestone RE-01R
Yokohama Advan Neova AD-07
Falken Azenis 615
Hankook RS2 Z212
Kumho Ecsta MX

All are TW 140 or better (class rules) and 3 of them are TW200, but that doesn't necessarily mean they stick any less...

I've driven on all of them, but only 3 on similar cars. They are all pretty close.

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Old 02-07-2007, 05:35 PM   #4
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Don't forget to check out Yokohama's advan neova ad07 treadwear 140. Only trick is you must keep them warmer than 14 degrees in the winter or you run the risk of damaging the tire.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....e1=yes&place=3
I have a dedicated set of Nokian RSI Hakkalapita's (sp?) for winter use on my stock rims so I would never run these performance tires during the winter at all.

Do the RE050A Pole Positions compare well at all to these other tires listed above here? No big deal if not.

I forgot to mention, price is not an issue, as long as I get a little better tread rating.

The Yokohama Advan Neova AD-07 appears to be the most expensive of the bunch, does this relate to it at all being the grippiest tire of the bunch? I don't need the sidewalls to be as stiff as good bridgestones (for example), I was quite happy with what the PZero Corsa did for me as a comparison.



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Old 02-07-2007, 07:17 PM   #5
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Also give the Mich. pilot sport ps2 a look
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....1=yes&place=22
Dan
PS the haka is and excelent snow but check the wr out better in the deep snow (also not r-speed rated the wr is v-rated)!!

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Old 02-09-2007, 01:53 AM   #6
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With so many great choices, now all I can ask is, has anyone tried enough of these to recommend which one has the best warm weather traction with a reasonable amount of sidewall stiffness?

I'm still wondering if I shouldn't just kill myself and buy 2 sets of the Perelli PZero Corsa's... I don't think they are suppose to be as sticky as some r-compound tires but they are suppose to last a tad longer. Man I loved those things, but man they sure wear quick.

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Old 02-09-2007, 07:33 AM   #7
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d00000d......there are a lot of people that havent read your posts and are just posting to please themselves

try some Toyo RA-1's

or possibly the Pilot Sport Cup

ya almost certainly will NOT get the grip ya want with a 'street' tire but the RA-1's may be the best compromise

Myles at RCE may be able to help ya out here, as well....

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Old 02-09-2007, 11:21 AM   #8
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d00000d......there are a lot of people that havent read your posts and are just posting to please themselves

try some Toyo RA-1's

or possibly the Pilot Sport Cup

ya almost certainly will NOT get the grip ya want with a 'street' tire but the RA-1's may be the best compromise

Myles at RCE may be able to help ya out here, as well....


Did you read his post????

He SPECIFICALLY asked for NON-R compound tires that can survive 10k street miles with track use. You recommended an R comp that will be good for a season of track days, without street miles, then commented on US not reading his post???

You just gave him exactly the tire he didn't want. He's willing to give up grip for life, doesn't want an R comp, and wants 10k street miles in additon to track use. The RA-1 certainly doesn't fit that bill.
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Did you read his post????

He SPECIFICALLY asked for NON-R compound tires that can survive 10k street miles with track use. You recommended an R comp that will be good for a season of track days, without street miles, then commented on US not reading his post???

You just gave him exactly the tire he didn't want. He's willing to give up grip for life, doesn't want an R comp, and wants 10k street miles in additon to track use. The RA-1 certainly doesn't fit that bill.
....noooo...i DID read it.....and I'd bet that using a longer wearing r compound will yeild best results.

after having used the Corsa's....any non-r compound---at the track.....will almost certainly dissapoint.

there is a HUGE difference in performance...not a 'slight difference' and a properly heat cycled, slightly 'harder' set of r-compounds may be the best bet.

board members have posted that they have gotten 5k+ miles on the RA-1 with 'mixed usage'....

going BACK to a soft non-r compound tire that will likely last about the same, but deliver far less performance may be unacceptable
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Old 02-09-2007, 12:41 PM   #10
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d00000d......there are a lot of people that havent read your posts and are just posting to please themselves

try some Toyo RA-1's

or possibly the Pilot Sport Cup

ya almost certainly will NOT get the grip ya want with a 'street' tire but the RA-1's may be the best compromise

Myles at RCE may be able to help ya out here, as well....
Are those the only two you've tried?

I'm leaning towards the Advans or just giving up and getting a couple set's of R-Compound tires.
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Are those the only two you've tried?

I'm leaning towards the Advans or just giving up and getting a couple set's of R-Compound tires.
.....get with Myles at Race Comp Engineering.

He is the man to ask on this one, for sure.

After having used r-comp tires on a track......any non-r compound will disappoint.....but if you can get a full season outa one set of slightly harder r-comp tires than the Corsa's......why not try it????
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