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Old 11-30-2001, 08:38 PM   #1
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My girlfriend is planning to buy a 2001 and I was wondering about the pro's and con's. How do you guys like the forester? Are there any problems specific to this model?
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Old 11-30-2001, 10:05 PM   #2
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Pros:
- Probably the most nimble handling mini-SUV out there since it's basically a fat Impreza 2.5 RS
- Good power to weight ratio
- Lots of versatile cargo space
- Great outbound visibility
- Great saftey record
- Many of the Impreza modifications work on the Forester
- It's a Subaru

Cons:
- Rear seats aren't too roomy
- You're going to have to find ways to let your GF let you drive the vehicle

I don't know of any major problems with the 2001s. Remember, the Forester has been around since 1997. Subaru has had a chance to work out the minor bugs.

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Old 12-01-2001, 12:17 AM   #3
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Thanks Ken, you've been really helpful.
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Old 12-01-2001, 03:04 PM   #4
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Hi,

My wife and I bought a used 1999 Forester "S" about 5 months ago. We love it. It handles well and is incredibly well designed. Feels very bulletproof. Can't wait to drive it in the winter with the all-wheel drive. I'm buying four snows (probably Hakka 1s) for it for the winter...then I'll be able to go thru anything! lol
I believe you are from Canada and must get severe winters (we live in Rochester, NY and we get a lot of snow here) so this would be an excellent vehicle for your girlfriend.

I can't really think of any downside to owning the Forester.

I would opt for the "S" version over the "L" because it has four disc brakes, 16" alloys/Yokahamas, and the cold weather package w/ yummy HEATED seats for the cold Canadian winter!

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Old 12-01-2001, 03:10 PM   #5
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We bought a 2002 Forester S in July. I love it. It's not as much fun to drive as my Impreza, but for a family fun wagon, it's not too bad. I can't wait till the snow. The heated seats rock.

L vs S: S. LImited slip diff, rear disc brakes, nice wheels, huge sunroof.
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Old 12-01-2001, 03:11 PM   #6
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Thanks guys, your information has come in very handy.
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Old 12-03-2001, 04:02 AM   #7
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I agree with the guys, I've had 2 foresters, an old shape one and my present new shape one (there's pics in my members profile).
The only problems are a lack of legroom in the back seats and they drink fuel like all subarus. They handle really well (I wore the tyres out on my old one within 15k miles ) and the AWD is useful if you do a lot of trail/winter driving. The new shape ones have various little improvements over the old shape one. Get the S version too (although I don't care for the monster roof).
Oh, and in the UK they do a turbo version
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Old 12-09-2001, 11:11 PM   #8
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We have a 2002 S-Premium. We are very happy with it.

After 5000miles the only downs so far:
- Long drives in those seats can be painful - 3+hrs.
- while the 2.5 engine is torquey, I think it lacks power - maybe its the automatic but there is not enough passing power...well for around the D.C. area its lacking. -- a turbo or Subaru's 6 cylinder should solve the problem.
- it handles well, although the stock tires slide easily in the rain or curves/turns
- the extended dash cup holders are a poor design for driver access to the HVAC controls
- if you order the front brush guard:
1) it does not come painted to match Premium models (but a spray can of silver and clear coat took care of that)
2) you can use it for anything, not even suppose to tie a rope to it.


Other cars we considered in the same 24-26k range:
- used '98 Volvo V70 AWD R wagon - wife preferred Forester
- VW Passat wagon
- VW Jetta wagon
- Subaru Outback
- Impreza WRX wagon
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Old 12-10-2001, 09:43 PM   #9
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99 L

Pros
Great fuel economy for an suv (25-30 mpg on the highway)
Handles really well for a suv
roomy
35k and NO problems

Cons
Slow
can't tow much
squeeky rear hatch
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Old 12-11-2001, 09:32 PM   #10
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You should check out the Canada only Sport mode, it has the interior, rims and grill from the European turbo model.

Looks good, I have seen a few.
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Old 12-12-2001, 06:07 PM   #11
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A I]family fun wagon[/i]!!?? Yeah, that's one con -- people associate the look of the Forester as being more family oriented. Drive one -- it handles far better than you would imagine based on appearance alone.

Toerag -- what kind of fuel milage are you getting? You must be riding one of those Turbo Foresters, you lucky dawg! I get 26mpg on my N/A Forester and am quite happy with it.

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Old 12-13-2001, 03:27 AM   #12
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Toerag -- what kind of fuel milage are you getting? You must be riding one of those Turbo Foresters, you lucky dawg! I get 26mpg on my N/A Forester and am quite happy with it.

Ken
Hi Ken,
I get around 240 miles from about 52 litres of fuel (full tank down to red light and a few miles of driving after that). That's driving 1 mile to work in the morning, home and back at lunch, then 6 miles to collect the GF after work monday to friday, plus maybe another 20 - 50 miles at the weekend. All this is urban 'stop-1st-2nd-4th-stop' driving with a 35mph speed limit (that I don't pay too much attention to ). When I was running it in I had 300 miles per tank, and I reckon I could get 350 on the highway. I've no idea what the mpg is as I can't be bothered to work it out (american gallons are different to ours here). All the cold starts do hurt the economy for sure though, it's a lot happier when it's thoroughly warm.
Yes, it is a turbo version, but my old 2 litre N/A was just as good for 'spirited' driving it just didn't have the rabid acceleration like the turbo does (1st gear is a real neck snapper!).
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Old 12-15-2001, 04:03 PM   #13
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Family Fun Wagon. Yeah, most people call it an SUV (which annoys me, since it's not nearly as large as what I would consider an SUV), or a station wagon (which it's not, because it's far too tall).

I prefer to call it a Tall Wagon.

Anyway, I get 23-26 MPG depending on who does most of the driving (23MPG=ME, 26MPG-WIFE).
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Not all of 'em are tall. Mine's pretty short (after I lowered it about 3.5 - 4") and I love when people mistake it for a Station Wagon. People are always asking me if it is some kind of Audi.

Since this has turned into a mpg discussion, I average about 19 mpg. That takes into account the 5% smaller tire diameter I am running, as well as the 20+ minutes of bumper-to-bumper commute each way and the other 20+ minutes where I go about 90 each way. (Yeah its about 45 minutes each way, which is only about 20-25 miles. God I hate South Florida traffic. Its as bad as LA, well maybe not.)

I also love to confuse the "boy racers" when they get beat by my NA Forester. It takes a pretty fast car to beat me, at least from off-the-line till about 70mph. Gotta love it.
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Old 12-16-2001, 02:17 PM   #15
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I'd echo most of Ken's pros:

Pros:

- Best-in-class handling, even with newer rivals on the scene. Great winter handler, especially with 4-wheel discs and rear LSD.

- Very good braking, once you get used to the spongy pedal feel.

- Good power to weight ratio; the best of any Subie wagon when I was shopping them (fall '99). Combo of handling and power/weight sold it over the Legacy GT wagon; GT handled a little better but felt more sluggish; Forester has that "turn-on-a-dime" feeling like an RS.

- Versatile cargo space and more storage compartments than any vehicle I've ever seen (I've never even used the little boxes in the door armrests).

- Great outward visibility.

- Great crash-test record.

- Many last-gen Impreza modifications adaptable.

- All add up to a very high fun-to-drive factor.


Cons:

- Those small, flat rear seats. Room's not a big deal since I'm 5'7" and my seat's way up compared to taller drivers, but the cushions get uncomfortable fast (so I'm told).

- Stock tires (Geolandars) a compromise, with very soft sidewalls and moderate grip in foul weather.

- Rear wheel bearing failures (dealers can remedy if repaired properly).

- Paint starts to chip and scratch if you stare at it long enough.

- Bad front cupholder design (not a fatal flaw since I rarely drink in the car).

- Wish it had variable intermittent front/rear wipers (I think they do now, at least variable front and fixed intermittent rear).

Mine has an AT and I drive way too much in Northeast Corridor traffic, but I average 22-23 mpg city and 27-28 highway. Best was almost 29; worst about 20 (except for one tankful at 14.1 after I reset the ECU).

Worth a look especially if you don't have to be the first on the block with the redesigned '03 model - should be able to find some great deals soon if not already.

Ed
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Old 12-18-2001, 01:43 PM   #16
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LOL, Ed. Dang, I knew I've been staring at my hood too long!

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Old 12-18-2001, 11:33 PM   #17
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- Rear wheel bearing failures (dealers can remedy if repaired properly).

I thought Subaru learned their lesson from years of SVX owners still complaining about this problem. My '92 SVX didn't have a failure for the 65k miles I owned it. My brother still has his '92 with 240k miles on it and he went through 4 in last year...idiot dealer IMHO.

I really hope our '02 doesn't have the same issue. we just turned over 6k miles, definately fun. Not 100% happy with the Geolander tires in the rain. Are they decent in the snow?

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Old 12-20-2001, 03:47 AM   #18
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Unhappy Geolanders good in the snow?

02_Forester,

You asked if the stock Geolanders were good in the snow. Not according to a recent Consumer Reports article that rated them "poor" in snow traction (the worst rating) and just "fair" in ice braking performance (one notch better than poor).

We have a 1999 Forester S and live where there is a lot of snow.
Last week I bought a set of 4 steel wheels and 4 Nokian Hakka 1s. Now, I have a good setup for the snow and ice!

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Old 12-20-2001, 04:55 PM   #19
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Brian-- I was considering some Nokian all-seasons but notice that they don't come in my OEM size, 215/60-16. I also notice that the Hakkas are not available in that size either. Did you go to the 225/60-15s? ...if so, obviously you didn't have any clearance problems, right? Do the Hakkas come standard with studs or is it an option?

TIA

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Old 12-20-2001, 10:56 PM   #20
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'rocco,

I went with the 205/70R-15 size. I have no clearance problems whatsoever. The size I went with is the exact same size as on the Forester "L". The Hakka 1 comes standard WITHOUT studs.
I bought the 15" steel wheels at TireRack.com for $38/each. The Hakka 1s I got at the local Subaru dealer for $85/each. We haven't had any real snow yet for me to test out the Hakkas. I'm looking forward to seeing how they perform!

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Old 12-21-2001, 02:50 AM   #21
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Default Thanx, Brian!

Brian-- I appreciate the information. Yeah, I've heard so many good things about Nokians ...not only their winter tires but their all-seasons too. But like I said, they make neither in the 215/60-16 size. If I decide to go with winter tires, I'll keep what you did in mind. We don't get that much snow here so I don't know if it would be worth it or not to buy a dedicated set of snows ...although I've had them for other cars I've owned. We haven't had a big snow storm in years ...I guess it's global warming or something

Oh, and the only reason I asked if they came studded is because when I went to their web site, it almost looked like studs were standard whether you wanted them or not. It's good to know they can be had without studs. So yours are without studs, eh?

So does your S have 215/60-16s as OEM?

Okay, thanx again, Brian!

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Old 12-21-2001, 04:34 AM   #22
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I don't know if they make them, but 205/65 or 70/16 should fit, or 225/50/16. Problem is that the rims might stick out with the former and the sidewalls are low with the latter!! And I haven't a clue about whether they'll rub or not.
How about chains? Or get some second-hand steelies. tierrack.com do new steelies, look at their site for more details.
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Old 12-28-2001, 10:38 PM   #23
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another pro to the forester:

we finally took another decent trip, 350miles. our '02 got a nice 27mpg with 70-75mph on highway speeds.

I also added the Subaru hitch and it worked nicely with a U-haul 5x8 trailer filled with furniture. gas mileage was only 22mpg on the highway. If you follow the instructions properly the hitch installs easily, if you don't *cough* it will take a little longer.

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Old 12-29-2001, 03:14 AM   #24
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Smile rocco...

--'rocco,

yup...mine don't have studs.

my S has 215/60R16s as OEM.

have fun!

Brian


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It's good to know they can be had without studs. So yours are without studs, eh?

So does your S have 215/60-16s as OEM?

Okay, thanx again, Brian!

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Old 12-29-2001, 07:57 AM   #25
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If you really want to know whats good about a Forester take a test drive in my part of the world.

I live in western New York "snow country" and work as a ski instructor. The machine performs flawlessly and I frequently drive on unplowed roads. The stock tires have worked well contrary to all the grousers who are looking for some type of performance/snow specific tires.

If you don't think I get as much snow as you...well maybe..but if you ever watch news/weather an the TV...you know that I get a share." Lake effect snows "are a way of life here and despite all the bad press....we live here for a reason. Great summers/beautiful falls and abundant winter sports.

Just my .02 the Forester was made for this part of the world and I for one am glad I have one.

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