All the Cars Ford needs to comeback are made in Europe and OZ

onelove221 · 02-13-2007, 01:16 PM

Witness the next Mondeo.

I also happened to be cruising the Ford of Australia website and came across these.

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Delivering a staggering 550Nm (that's 406 ft-lbsin old money) of torque, the highest torque output of any Australian built production engine, and 270kW of power from the turbo-charged and intercooled 4.0 litre six-cylinder F6 270 Turbo engine. The F6 Typhoon offers world-class standards of space and grace, whilst maintaining FPV's outstanding safety and refinement package.

Other goodies on the spec sheet for the Falcon F6 Typhoon

Turbocharged Intercooled 24V DOHC Inline-6
6-speed manual trans std.
Brembo Brakes (4 pot standard, 6 pot optional!)
19" Wheels
Alcantara-Leather Sports Seats

For the muscle car purists you can also get this car with the DOHC 5.4L V8.

You can also get it in a ute format.

If Ford could bring these here the same way GM brought the Holden Monaro as the GTO for less than $40K, they'd sell far better than the Five Hundred Sedan (which is duller than a session of Icelandic Parliament) and I would seriously consider buying one.

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onelove221 · 02-13-2007, 01:19 PM

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blubaru703 · 02-13-2007, 01:21 PM

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Looks like the falcon.

onelove221 · 02-13-2007, 01:23 PM

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Looks like the falcon.

That's exactly what it is. A souped up Falcon.

Not the prettiest car in the world, but I drive an '06 STi so what do I know from pretty?

Optimus Prime · 02-13-2007, 02:27 PM

I heard it has a GT30R stock.

onelove221 · 02-13-2007, 03:15 PM

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I heard it has a GT30R stock.

Can you imagine what the US Tuner community would do with these cars?

Lantec · 02-13-2007, 03:33 PM

Now of course, that'd would hurt the Mustang name and Ford would never do anything to provoke that...

left footed whooten · 02-13-2007, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Lantec

Now of course, that'd would hurt the Mustang name and Ford would never do anything to provoke that...

Bingo!

Chromer · 02-13-2007, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Lantec

Now of course, that'd would hurt the Mustang name and Ford would never do anything to provoke that...

<shrug> The GTO can, and the Camaro used to be able to put some hurt on a base Corvette, so I don't see the problem.

And the Mustang could be a hell of a lot better than it is. Ford just needs a good swift kick in the backside to actually get up and do it. Handling package by Jaguar?

SubieAutoXer · 02-13-2007, 08:52 PM

the whole 'it will interfere with the mustang' argument has been beat to death repeatedly.

that's the same logic of saying ford shouldn't have released the explorer because it canibalizes F150 sales.

the FPV falcon or typhoon under an svt badge alongside the mondeo and c1 chassis focus would be fords savior. the mustang buyer will always be the mustang buyer. as with the f150, silverado, camaro, etc. no amount of awesome vehicles will cause that demographic to stray, it's too deep rooted in the culture.

Lexington · 02-13-2007, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromer

<shrug> The GTO can, and the Camaro used to be able to put some hurt on a base Corvette, so I don't see the problem.

And the Mustang could be a hell of a lot better than it is. Ford just needs a good swift kick in the backside to actually get up and do it. Handling package by Jaguar?

They need to make it a halo car.

Huge engine.
Huge price.

andypress · 02-13-2007, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by onelove221

Can you imagine what the US Tuner community would do with these cars?

Paint it with racing stripes?

left footed whooten · 02-13-2007, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by andypress

Paint it with racing stripes?

Well played.

onelove221 · 02-14-2007, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by andypress

Paint it with racing stripes?

LOL.

No I was thinking that all the guys who had full weight Buick Grand Nationals running 9s back in the 90s would have a new car to tune the hell out of, only this time with handling, braking and luxury.

Fa5tCoEvo · 02-14-2007, 12:00 PM

Amen. Ford needs to do something. They have fast focus' overseas, fast mid sized, and full sized cars....but not here.

How is it an American Car manufacturer sells cooler cars in every other country BUT the U.S. and they wonder why their "customer base" buys Toyota

onelove221 · 02-14-2007, 12:18 PM

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How is it an American Car manufacturer sells cooler cars in every other country BUT the U.S. and they wonder why their "customer base" buys Toyota

Basically, if you want a cool Ford, you have to buy a Mustang or nothing.

That sucks. Even GM has more performance choices than Ford right now.

Calamity Jesus · 02-14-2007, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by onelove221

Basically, if you want a cool Ford, you have to buy a Mustang or nothing.

The Mustang epitomizes what's wrong with US Fords.

brianbot5000 · 02-14-2007, 03:24 PM

I agree - the Mondeo in Australia, and the Focus in Europe, are both examples of great looking cars that Ford doesn't sell here. It's total garbage. That's why I have no sympathy for their current situation...giving the foriegn markets the nicer looking vehicles and leaving us with crap.

Hazdaz · 02-14-2007, 07:01 PM

Don't all these overseas Fords (specifically the Falcon) have an IRS along with RWD and lots of power?? They don't cost an arm and a leg, yet anytime someone mentions why the Mustang still has an antiquated solid rear suspension, the same old "it's cheaper" or "a solid rear axel can take more power" excuse gets used.

Right now Ford has the same problem that GM had with the whole Cadillac line a few years ago. The Cadillac line had to have the most luxury features the most power (outside of the Vette of course) - basically Cadillac had to be the best (at least within the GM world) to justify it's higher prices... BUT since compared to the rest of the world it really wasn't that good, it forced GM to cheapen all the divisions so they weren't stepping on Cadillac's toes.

edkwon · 02-14-2007, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by onelove221

Witness the next Mondeo.

Um, has anyone think this guy has finally learned that the Mondeo and Falcon are two completely separate lines of cars?

Ed

RBelcher00 · 02-14-2007, 08:46 PM

I <3 FPV.
I <3 Holden.

I can only wish they'd bring this here.
Holden should be brought here and sold AS a Holden, and be a performance arm of GM. OR, they could simply become Pontiac and axe all the current Pontiacs.

OR that doesn't make sense because the Pontiac name holds more clout here than "Holden" with older conservative buyers. And Pontiac already aims to be the performance arm of GM.

I don't <3 America...

edkwon · 02-14-2007, 08:48 PM

its sad how America is one of the oldest and biggest car markets in the world yet it produces some of the worst cars among its peers.

Ed

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Optimus Prime Scooby Specialist Member#: 69847 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Cybertron Vehicle: 2010 Evolution X	I heard it has a GT30R stock.

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Lantec Scooby Specialist Member#: 48685 Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Coquitlam, B.C. Vehicle: 2010 Prius Silver	Now of course, that'd would hurt the Mustang name and Ford would never do anything to provoke that...

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SubieAutoXer Scooby Newbie Member#: 138199 Join Date: Jan 2007 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Troy, MI Vehicle: 2008 Legacy 2.5i Quartz Silver	the whole 'it will interfere with the mustang' argument has been beat to death repeatedly. that's the same logic of saying ford shouldn't have released the explorer because it canibalizes F150 sales. the FPV falcon or typhoon under an svt badge alongside the mondeo and c1 chassis focus would be fords savior. the mustang buyer will always be the mustang buyer. as with the f150, silverado, camaro, etc. no amount of awesome vehicles will cause that demographic to stray, it's too deep rooted in the culture.

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Fa5tCoEvo Scooby Newbie Member#: 125327 Join Date: Sep 2006 Chapter/Region: SWIC Location: Where Mustangs are Breakfast Vehicle: 2006 STI Aspen White	Amen. Ford needs to do something. They have fast focus' overseas, fast mid sized, and full sized cars....but not here. How is it an American Car manufacturer sells cooler cars in every other country BUT the U.S. and they wonder why their "customer base" buys Toyota

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brianbot5000 Scooby Specialist Member#: 44000 Join Date: Sep 2003 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Seattle Vehicle: 2013 2013 WRX Hatch 1997 Toyota Tacoma	I agree - the Mondeo in Australia, and the Focus in Europe, are both examples of great looking cars that Ford doesn't sell here. It's total garbage. That's why I have no sympathy for their current situation...giving the foriegn markets the nicer looking vehicles and leaving us with crap.

02-14-2007, 07:01 PM	#19
Hazdaz Scooby Guru Member#: 14611 Join Date: Jan 2002	Don't all these overseas Fords (specifically the Falcon) have an IRS along with RWD and lots of power?? They don't cost an arm and a leg, yet anytime someone mentions why the Mustang still has an antiquated solid rear suspension, the same old "it's cheaper" or "a solid rear axel can take more power" excuse gets used. Right now Ford has the same problem that GM had with the whole Cadillac line a few years ago. The Cadillac line had to have the most luxury features the most power (outside of the Vette of course) - basically Cadillac had to be the best (at least within the GM world) to justify it's higher prices... BUT since compared to the rest of the world it really wasn't that good, it forced GM to cheapen all the divisions so they weren't stepping on Cadillac's toes.

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RBelcher00 Scooby Specialist Member#: 100829 Join Date: Nov 2005 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: Corona, CA Vehicle: 2006 WRX R.I.P. =( '07 CBR600RR =)	I <3 FPV. I <3 Holden. I can only wish they'd bring this here. Holden should be brought here and sold AS a Holden, and be a performance arm of GM. OR, they could simply become Pontiac and axe all the current Pontiacs. OR that doesn't make sense because the Pontiac name holds more clout here than "Holden" with older conservative buyers. And Pontiac already aims to be the performance arm of GM. I don't <3 America...

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edkwon Scooby Specialist Member#: 453 Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: 小さいӔ Vehicle: 2013 VT	its sad how America is one of the oldest and biggest car markets in the world yet it produces some of the worst cars among its peers. Ed