Welcome to the North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club Sunday May 3, 2015
Home Forums WikiNASIOC Products Store Modifications Upgrade Garage
NASIOC
Here you can view your subscribed threads, work with private messages and edit your profile and preferences Home Registration is free! Visit the NASIOC Store NASIOC Rules Search Find other members Frequently Asked Questions Calendar Archive NASIOC Upgrade Garage Logout
Go Back   NASIOC > NASIOC Subaru Models > Legacy Forum

Welcome to NASIOC - The world's largest online community for Subaru enthusiasts!
Welcome to the NASIOC.com Subaru forum.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, free of charge, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
View Poll Results: What do you think of the Legacy aftermarket?
Fabulous 1 1.28%
Nothing great 8 10.26%
O.K. 21 26.92%
Piss poor 37 47.44%
The shaft 11 14.10%
Voters: 78. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-03-2001, 01:26 PM   #1
Legacy SUS
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 8059
Join Date: Jul 2001
Chapter/Region: SWIC
Location: Tucson, AZ
Vehicle:
2008 Legacy Limited
Satin White Pearl

Default Just wondering what everyone thinks of the Legacy aftermarket.

I posted in the vendor reveiw forum asking why Legacy owners don't get any GB or deals on the classifieds. Just wondering what you guys think of the aftermarket.

>THX
Jeff
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Legacy SUS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2001, 01:58 PM   #2
monovich
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 8124
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Denver, Colorado
Vehicle:
1998 Old Grey Mule
Regacy Rype R

Default

It's piss poor, but I don't mind THAT much. I like having a car nobody has and I'm willing to pay the price. It's good that our cars share so much in common with the impreza, that DOES help things a bit.

-S
monovich is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2001, 02:05 PM   #3
Mike2000GT
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 2709
Join Date: Oct 2000
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Location: Media, PA
Vehicle:
2006 WRX Wagon
SGM

Default

You really have to look at it from the other side of the coin. First of all, 90% of legacy owners are NOT interested in modifications of any sort (primarily because they are not aware of an aftermarket for their vehicle and secondly have no qualms about the current state of their vehicle.)

Look at the ratio of Impreza vs Legacy members on this board. (even w/o the WRX crowd, it was a horrible ratio). And sorry to say, but the legacy turbos were produced in such small numbers that manufacturers didnt see any profit in entering the market.

Look at the Honda aftermarket scene. There are more vendors than the ricers can keep up with. Why... because the number of Honda owners is immense (probably over 10 times the # of RS and legacy owners combined...). So the possibility of selling enough units to overcome original production costs is very good.

You'll see in your other thread that the market isnt really there for Legacy aftermarket, so we have to settle for an expanded RS market. (Hoping the vendors can make the distinction between GC8 and BG/BF or BE/BH...)

Sorry for the defeatist attitude, but we are in the minority when it comes to market profitablity.

$0.02

Mike2000GT
Mike2000GT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2001, 02:07 PM   #4
Legacy SUS
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 8059
Join Date: Jul 2001
Chapter/Region: SWIC
Location: Tucson, AZ
Vehicle:
2008 Legacy Limited
Satin White Pearl

Default

I agree. I like having a car nobody else has. Infact I have only met two people that have an SUS. I have a freind that has been looking for one on the streets for some time, just to say he has seen another SUS. And mine is the only one he has ever seen. Plus I get all these lookes and people asking about my car "What is that?", "Thats sweet", and all I have to say to them is "just try to find one".

Jeff
Legacy SUS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2001, 02:18 PM   #5
Legacy SUS
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 8059
Join Date: Jul 2001
Chapter/Region: SWIC
Location: Tucson, AZ
Vehicle:
2008 Legacy Limited
Satin White Pearl

Default

MIKE2000GT- I do agree with you in many ways. But as far as not being products out there, I don't. Their are plenty in Japan, Aus. and Europe. Granted they have to be imported but I'm willing to pay the price. You just arn't able to import them yourself you need to import them thru a dealer. And most arn't willing to do so.
I guess that is what we have to deal with. But you know if the B4 ever gets here were going to get flooded with products. Which has it's good points and bad points. So It can't be a win win situation. I just hope we arn't flooded with Honduh owners converting.

Jeff
Legacy SUS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2001, 03:06 PM   #6
Jason
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 105
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: Fremont, CA 94538
Vehicle:
2000 Legacy GT Ltd
WHT

Default

I would think the suspension parts are there, but expensive and it's the only thing missing for the BE/BH Legacy.

I got a set of Tein NA kit for my BE legacy directly from Japan.

I got the whole set for about $1100 delivered. Quality is good, but I wasn't too happy about the stiff spring rate. Even with the soft spring I have, I still have to use 13 clicks from soft @ front and 15 clicks from soft for rear. I can't imagine what will happen w/ the mid spring that suppose come w/ the kit.


The rest of the upgrade stuff should be pretty easy to locate.
Jason is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2001, 03:38 PM   #7
ejicon
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 2452
Join Date: Sep 2000
Chapter/Region: SCIC
Location: Burbank,California, USA
Vehicle:
08 2.5 WRX
WRB Mica

Talking Wait a minute!!

There's a Legacy Aftermarket? Hmm... interesting...
ejicon is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2001, 04:18 PM   #8
DoughtCom
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 12565
Join Date: Nov 2001
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Vehicle:
1997 Swapped L Coupe
Steel Blue Mica

Default

yeah.... I'm willing to pay the price as all of you have perfectly said. If I wanted a car that I could "soup" up with clear tail lights and think that makes my car cooler I would have gotten a civic. But it's all about having the car enthusiasts never really pay attention to, tuning it to it's own perfection and turning the head that way. That to me is more respectable then putting thousands of dollars into body kits and clear tail lights, and exhaust tips that make my car sound and look more agressive. I remember when my friends mom (gimpy ben) bought her 98 RS 2.5 back in.... well 98. The people would just sit and stare at it in the parking lot. To me that's what's cool. And I'm glad not too many people know what the legacy is capable of.

W3rd to that!
DoughtCom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2001, 04:40 PM   #9
steve_d
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 315
Join Date: Sep 1999
Chapter/Region: South East
Location: Lawrenceville, GA
Default

well then, as a newbie business owner trying to cater to the subaru street performance aftermarket...what would you guys like to see in terms of legacy performance???

Do you really think you can make the Legacy a poor mans M5??? I think so...

sjd
www.airbornemotorsports.com
steve_d is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2001, 05:33 PM   #10
Oquipah
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 9689
Join Date: Aug 2001
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Vehicle:
1998 Legacy GT
Silver

Post

Yes I bought the Legacy GT because of well, first because it's a roo, but secondly the design details in my opinion are much more refined than the Impreza.

So what am I missing? Firstly, power, secondly handling. After scouring this board and a few other Subaru performance sites, I have also found a number of "cosmetic" mods that I think would improve the aesthetics of a great car, yet not go overboard and end up with a over-modified plastic body-kit (see lots of Civics).

As someone mentioned in an earlier post, there are Legacy parts available, however, for someone in the U.S. to get them, you'd need to be a Bill Gates ($$$$$$$$$$).

There are also cross-over parts that are listed as "Impreza" parts that may or may not fit our Legacys, but without enough info I often find myself asking "Will it fit a 98 Legacy GT?"

So, get some of the parts that are available in other parts of the world to US consumers/enthusiasts at a reasonable price and I for one would be happy!

My $0.04 (long post)

Peace,
Oqui
Oquipah is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2001, 05:48 PM   #11
steve_d
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 315
Join Date: Sep 1999
Chapter/Region: South East
Location: Lawrenceville, GA
Default

so you're saying if I could adapt the german supercharger kit to fit the 2.5 L instead of the Euro 2.0 cars, you'd all be a little happier?

sjd
steve_d is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2001, 05:59 PM   #12
monovich
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 8124
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Denver, Colorado
Vehicle:
1998 Old Grey Mule
Regacy Rype R

Default

Ummm.... yes!
monovich is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2001, 09:36 PM   #13
whitt
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 8928
Join Date: Aug 2001
Chapter/Region: SCIC
Location: Tustin
Vehicle:
2002 Tuxedo Bug Eye
White on white

Default Yeah

Seams to me that a standardized S/C kit would be a good start especially if you could get it past CARB. You might try Australia for the base kit, I think they have a Super charged version of the 2.5 in the liberty(not completely sure about that).
I think quite a few legacy owners have not gone with forced induction because they don't want a custom one of a kind turbo kit, they want a kit with readilly replaceable components and parts, and some type of support behind it. I would love better performance but I also need to keep a comfortible amount of reliability.
Thanks
DW
whitt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2001, 10:57 PM   #14
Benjamin Tang
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 4496
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: British Columbia Canada
Vehicle:
2009 Forester
red

Default

piss poor. why? i look across the pond to the land of the rising sun and what do i see?

this!

[img]

as well as pretty much everything on this:


this stuff is so common overseas they probably sell it at your local corner store in japan... and all i can do is sit here and drool...

bah

ben

Last edited by Benjamin Tang; 12-03-2001 at 11:11 PM.
Benjamin Tang is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2001, 11:46 PM   #15
JoeT
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 3956
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Vehicle:
2000 Turbo Legacy GT
Titanium

Default

Though the aftermarket support is "Piss Poor" for the Legacy, there are aftermarket pieces out there. You just have to look a lot harder.

As for performance parts, we can use most of the "Engine Mods" that are currently being used for the Impreza.

Current Stable of Mods for my 00 GT:
Whitline ALK
Whitline Adjustable rear sway
2.25 Cat back mated to a sweet set of Equal Length Headers
http://www.i-club.com/forums/showthr...hreadid=108922
Underdrive Pulley
K&N Filter
Custom tuning by Yoshio of Japanese Auto

Next Mod:
Cobb Street cams from Lachute Subaru

IMHO these parts didn't cost an arm and a leg, just gotta look harder.
JoeT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2001, 03:09 AM   #16
iON Performance Inc
Vendor
 
Member#: 7673
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Smile well, that's why we're here!

Well guys, as many of you know iON Performance is started by me (aka GTBGUY) and my partner Josh (aka HOK). I'm personally a die-hard Legacy fan. 2 Legacys myself. We have parts specifically designed for the Legacy available (ie: suspension, engine componets, exhausts, turbo kits etc).

My philiosophy of the Legacy GT = poor man's M5

And soon enough all fellow Legacy GT owners will be able to keep up with the big boys

In the next few months, we'll be realeasing a CARB pending turbo-kit specifically for the Legacy (BD/BG + BE/BH) as well as other exhaust components (ie: equal length headers etc).

So keep your eyes out for these developments!
iON Performance Inc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2001, 08:36 AM   #17
DoughtCom
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 12565
Join Date: Nov 2001
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Vehicle:
1997 Swapped L Coupe
Steel Blue Mica

Default maybe I'm just not l337 3nuff

Yeah your www.ionperformance.com link doesn't work. Never been to your site, and or have seen what you guys offer for legacys. Let me know when the sites back up

W3rd
DoughtCom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2001, 10:31 AM   #18
subyspeed2
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 10914
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Altoona, PA
Vehicle:
1992 legacy turbo
black

Default

yeah, sounds great!!! but i clicked the link and it took me to a page that said i wasn't authorized to view that site!?!?
subyspeed2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2001, 02:01 AM   #19
janikphoto
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 10471
Join Date: Sep 2001
Chapter/Region: TXIC
Location: Dallas, TX
Vehicle:
2000 BMW Z3
sold Outback & ForesterXT

Default

hey, not all outback owners are socker moms with a paul hogan fetish. i want my outback to be at least twice as quick!!!
janikphoto is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2001, 04:26 PM   #20
origtopcat
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 13019
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Miramar, FL
Vehicle:
1990 Legacy
Gold

Default '90 Legacy upgrade

I have a 1990 Subaru Legacy, that I have wanted to do some mods to but have been having a hard time locating any parts for it. Do anyof you have any sources that you could give me to check out......
origtopcat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2001, 12:23 AM   #21
GTBGUY
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 2003
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Vehicle:
'99 BGP Legacy GT
'98 QS Legacy L (auto)

Default Just an FYI

The iON Performance website isn't up yet b/c of some final minor details that need to be taken care of. (it's mostly stuff pertaining to catalogs etc)... the site is on the server, just not allowing public access yet.

iON will definately make an anouncement once it's online
GTBGUY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2001, 01:40 PM   #22
Legacy SUS
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 8059
Join Date: Jul 2001
Chapter/Region: SWIC
Location: Tucson, AZ
Vehicle:
2008 Legacy Limited
Satin White Pearl

Default

Well what I'm looking for is mostly engine internals. turbo kits and so on. I don't want to get body kits or a huge spoiler. I would just like to have more performance out of the car. Maybe suspension and exhaust mods.

GTBGUY-I was wondering how much are you asking for the turbo kit and when is it going to be out? Is there going to be a GB on them?

Jeff
Legacy SUS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2001, 12:32 AM   #23
bln scub
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 9497
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: santa barbara, ca
Vehicle:
2001 Legacy L Wagon
blue sapphire

Default supercharger kits

am in prossess of getting a custom s/c by magnunson installed in my my01 leagacy L wagon

will be done by april anyone interested in making it more than a 1 off?
MORE the MERRIER!!!!!!!!!!
bln scub is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2001, 12:38 AM   #24
JoeT
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 3956
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Vehicle:
2000 Turbo Legacy GT
Titanium

Default

Post details on your S/C. Like, what type of supercharger, is it roots type, any ECU mods, Fuel pump / pressure mods, etc.

Let me know..... Plllleeeeeaaassseeee


Droooooool!!
JoeT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2001, 01:38 AM   #25
GTBGUY
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 2003
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Vehicle:
'99 BGP Legacy GT
'98 QS Legacy L (auto)

Default

Legacy SUS - we're in the final stages of tweaking the turbokits They will fit both 5spd and auto Legacys.

The turbo alone is good for 400-450hp [we'll be using a GT28 BB turbo]
GTBGUY is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
What does everyone think of the Fuzion ZRi? N'CTRL Motorsports 18 03-09-2006 12:17 AM
What does everyone think of the Michelin PS2 tires?? STI1981 Tire & Wheel 4 09-15-2005 02:51 PM
what does everyone think of the build quality on the gruppe-s v2 manifold? waitandbleed92 Factory 2.0L Turbo Powertrain (EJ Series Factory 2.0L Turbo) 11 02-26-2004 04:06 PM
What does everyone think of the Spec R1? Diesel7 Canada Region Forum 22 11-05-2002 09:10 PM
What does everyone think of the new WRX 2004 ? TheNookie Rocky Mountains Impreza Club Forum -- RMIC 29 10-02-2002 10:30 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:22 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2015 Axivo Inc.
Copyright ©1999 - 2014, North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club, Inc.