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Old 12-04-2001, 02:08 PM   #1
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Question Stromung Vs. Brullen

After searching for info about these two exhausts and not finding enough info to be satisfied, I figured I'd ask. I've narrowed down my exhaust choices to either the Stromung SS Dual Tip or the Brullen. I've heard the Stromung Single Tip (muffler only), and it seems to drone a little bit a steady speeds (esp around 40-50 mph).

Has anyone heard both of these mufflers? Does the Stromung Dual Tip have kind of a bassy drone as well? Does its replacement midpipe affect this at all? Also, is the performance the same from the medium and quiet Brullen setups?

I don't mind either exhaust being loud when I'm on it, but want something that's not real obvious/intrusive to me or "others" when I'm just driving around.
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Old 12-04-2001, 04:27 PM   #2
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I have the brullen and its pretty good. its sounds really good and its not too loud. 1/4 times went from 15.9 to 15.5. which i thought was pretty good.


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Old 12-04-2001, 05:45 PM   #3
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I've heard the Stromung rusts out after a few years.
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Old 12-04-2001, 06:15 PM   #4
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Yeah...Brullen all the way!!
Stromung does rust !!

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Old 12-04-2001, 06:26 PM   #5
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I drive a 400 mile round trip every other weekend and my dual-tip Stromung w/ mid-pipe does not drone at all. At 70-75, I hear more wind and road noise than exhaust. Dip into the throttle at those speeds though and the exhaust note wakes up quickly. As for the rusting issues, we'll see. Looking it over, it is stainless and the welds look ultra sound. The build quality is top notch... we'll see over the next few years. I simply didn't like the Brullen because they are painted nasty black.
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Old 12-04-2001, 08:12 PM   #6
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MrHorspwer - Actually the rear section can be polished... just like the Greddy systems where the pipes are coated and the rear canister is polished IIRC it's a $40 option.
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Old 12-04-2001, 08:20 PM   #7
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Quote:
The build quality is top notch
I have to disagree with this. The welds are mediocre, there is splatter in several places, and the design leaves sharp, welded edges sticking out. Compared to the Blitz NUR Spec cannister I have here (which cost less), it looks like junk.

Given the length of the Brullen warranty alone, I'd prefer them to Stromung.


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Old 12-04-2001, 08:59 PM   #8
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ScoobArmada - I forgot to mention, the quiet and the medium acoustic set-ups have no difference in power, only sound.

They both have the same flow.
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Old 12-05-2001, 05:54 PM   #9
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Which vendor(s) sells Brullen?
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Old 12-05-2001, 05:59 PM   #10
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Look one post up above yours. He sells Brullen!
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Old 12-05-2001, 06:00 PM   #11
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GTBGUY can get them, iON Performance... and a few others I can't think of..

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Old 12-05-2001, 06:00 PM   #12
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Old 12-05-2001, 06:01 PM   #13
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Old 12-05-2001, 11:06 PM   #14
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Longshot & DanzBorin - thanks for the props

bouse1 - in anycase, you should contact iON Performance about more info etc for the Brullen exhausts etc.
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Old 12-06-2001, 08:33 AM   #15
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i just put on the single tip stromung and midpipe - sounded awesome! but alas it was a little droney so i put the stock midpipe back on and am now perfectly happy. i am looking into welding on a resonator to that midpipe. remember the stromung has the most proven hp increase - you can actually feel the power!
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Old 12-06-2001, 04:41 PM   #16
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What's the difference in power? I thought as far as mufflers were concerned, they are all pretty much the same. Are you referring to the midpipe? Even if there is a 1-2hp difference I would still opt for the Brullen based on the build quality.
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Old 12-07-2001, 02:10 AM   #17
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You mentioned that you didn't like the Brullen because it was painted black. I found this pic of the Stromung on vivid racings website....looks pretty black to me

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Old 12-07-2001, 03:35 AM   #18
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Dual 3.5":

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Old 12-07-2001, 07:02 AM   #19
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get the brullen please its dope no question brullen has become HUGE with its catbacks and now headers on this site
can you say warentee?
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Old 12-07-2001, 02:49 PM   #20
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The stainless Stromung is not painted black... only the mild steel. I found the build to be great on my Stromung... no weld splatter, no booger welds, everything seemed to be tip top. The rear can was compliment by my brother, fabrication welder by trade (he modified & re-welded the hanger for use on a GDA RS), for its construction. I can only go by what I saw... YMMV I guess.

I don't really want to put any product down, espically one I have not myself tried. I did look at the Brullen system when I was in the market, and after their new headers came out I almost hated myself for the Stromung purchase. A big reason I didn't go with Brullen is the fact there is no product history that I could find. Other than GTBGUY, I had no idea where this product comes from, how long the company had been around, or what their quality over time was. That puts doubts into my head. With all that being said, who is going to take care of any warranty issues? Has anyone had to use the warranty... do they honor it? Nobody had a Brullen around here that i could take a listen to either. I loved the sound of the Stromung, I knew that Stromung has rusting problems... espically the mild steel ones. I talked with a few people who have had their stainless Stromungs for years with no signs of rust, even in salty winter climates. I made my decision and chose Stromung. Like I said, I'm not putting down the product... but that is what I was thinking when I bought my Stromung.

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Old 12-09-2001, 02:44 AM   #21
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MrHorspwer - no probs Brullen is a Canadian company. It's been around for many many years here in Canada. They're well known in the VW/Audi community. The only reason why iON Performance contracted Brullen to build exhausts for the Subaru is b/c of their outstanding quality, as well as their reputation. They also have custom systems for Porsches, Ferraris and Lamborghinis. If the owners of those high buck exotics can trust Brullen, I'm sure us Scooby owners can too
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Old 12-09-2001, 04:53 PM   #22
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Stromungs (non stainless) Rust after you splash water on them, or look at them funny.

Brullen's mount slightly crooked. but are otherwise fun (I have one)

Take your pick

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Old 12-09-2001, 05:23 PM   #23
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Actually you have more options with Brullen's system, such as 0~2 resonators in midpipe, different tip size & style(yes, they also offer Gold tip), and if you don't like the black paint, you can get it polished.
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Old 12-09-2001, 07:04 PM   #24
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Talking I hope you all buy Bruellen.....

Why? Because I'm Canadian and you americans buying a Canadian product will help out the Canadian economy! Besides, the Canadian dollar is sooooo weak right now, you're getting an excellent deal!

The second reason is because I'm selfish - I've got a dual-tip SS Stromung - not that many people have them!

Well, today, I was getting something out of my trunk and I looked down on my tips - egad they were dirty and there were some "rust spots"!

Took the good-ol stainless steel polishing stuff out and made my tips shine purdy! Bling Bling - nice and shiney! No major worry - just the surface was dirty.

LaterZ!
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Old 12-09-2001, 07:09 PM   #25
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sadly, the iON website is offline.

What is the wait time for a Brullen these days (BH/BG)? CRAZY KEN is still waiting, I hear.
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