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Old 03-12-2007, 10:00 PM   #1
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I saw on rs25 that rallitek was doing ecu reflashes for the 05/06 rs (and i obviously) guys with openecu and enginuity. Has anyone been a guinea pig for them? did you just have to pay the labor? are they using the "quick and dirty" version right now still or do they have a slightly updated version of it for the n/a guys?

How long would tuning take for a car with just bolt ons?

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Old 03-12-2007, 10:18 PM   #2
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i had them do my 05 WRX and it is amazing how much quicker it is.
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Old 03-12-2007, 10:46 PM   #3
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how long did it take? did you just have to pay the hourly labor wage if you dont mind me asking?


any one else? N/A guys especially
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Old 03-12-2007, 10:51 PM   #4
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i went to one of their dyno days and it cost me like $140 for 3 dyno pulls and the semi-custom tune. Basically Sean loaded a basic map then tweaked it to meet my car. I made 216 hp afterward.
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Old 03-12-2007, 11:18 PM   #5
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Dynojets are very poor for fine-tuning our cars. I would recommend DIY'ing on the dyno to get close then moving to road tuning.

If the intake hasn't been changed, should be able to take care of all of your car's tuning needs within 2 hours.

Having *real* tuning tools is paramount. Dyno widebands are for show and not go. Get yourself a nice wideband.

Feel free to PM me or Master2192 about the Enginuity/Ecuflash stuff, we are both pretty involved in the OS tuning forums/community.
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Old 03-13-2007, 01:33 PM   #6
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i am assuming the intake comment is relative to turbo models. Loading a map then editing it appropriately for the car sounds about like the extent of what i am looking for, atleast once i can afford it. I am figuring i am nto getting the most out of my engine mods without tuning, so ya.
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Old 03-13-2007, 02:28 PM   #7
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yeah i would just drop in and talk to the guys at rallitek they are very helpful.
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Old 03-13-2007, 02:35 PM   #8
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I'm sponsored by Rallitek. They do an awesome job and have no problem answering any of your questions. They did a reflash on my car as well and I've had no issues at all, but I got a huge power increase. They know their stuff so give em a call
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Old 03-13-2007, 10:56 PM   #9
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^^^ huh? I am going to have to stop in at Rallitek and ask G-man about that.
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Old 03-14-2007, 03:48 PM   #10
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I saw on rs25 that rallitek was doing ecu reflashes for the 05/06 rs (and i obviously) guys with openecu and enginuity. Has anyone been a guinea pig for them? did you just have to pay the labor? are they using the "quick and dirty" version right now still or do they have a slightly updated version of it for the n/a guys?

How long would tuning take for a car with just bolt ons?

thanks
Reflash is $299. I am still working out some bugs in the non-turbo software, so reflash is not 'officially' ready for non-turbo. I will make big announcements when reflash is ready for 2005+ Impreza. P6 PnP piggyback is available for RS models. Tuning power is more limited, but the P6 units work well.

Turbo cars, no worries.

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Old 03-14-2007, 08:47 PM   #11
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Sean, you dont still happen to be in need of guinea pigs are you? also would you allow the customer to sort of watch over your shoulder and see how the engiunity program works a little? tuning seminar possibly? just a thought
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Old 03-14-2007, 09:04 PM   #12
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A tuning seminar sounds awesome! I would come for that also.
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Dynojets are very poor for fine-tuning our cars. I would recommend DIY'ing on the dyno to get close then moving to road tuning.

If the intake hasn't been changed, should be able to take care of all of your car's tuning needs within 2 hours.

Having *real* tuning tools is paramount. Dyno widebands are for show and not go. Get yourself a nice wideband.

Feel free to PM me or Master2192 about the Enginuity/Ecuflash stuff, we are both pretty involved in the OS tuning forums/community.
How is a wideband on a dyno for show and not go? Are you talking about the widebands that are built into some dynos?
Most tuners in this area use the LM-1 and it works pretty well. Sure a dyno is not real world and sometimes a car will behave a bit differently on the road and need some tweaking but I would not call it a poor tool, it is a great tool, and much safer than road tuning. Which is illegal.
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Old 03-15-2007, 12:06 AM   #14
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How is a wideband on a dyno for show and not go? Are you talking about the widebands that are built into some dynos?
Most tuners in this area use the LM-1 and it works pretty well. Sure a dyno is not real world and sometimes a car will behave a bit differently on the road and need some tweaking but I would not call it a poor tool, it is a great tool, and much safer than road tuning. Which is illegal.

Because tailpipe-mounted widebands don't work worth a crap.

For one, they are behind the cat(s), if the car is so equipped.

For two, they read lean(er) along various points, thanks to the exhaust pulse drawing in fresh air at the end of the tailpipe -- especially at low exhaust volumes/speeds.

For three, the delay in measurement is increased the further back the WBO2 sensor is located.

Most tuner's in the area use the LM-1?? When my car was on PDXTuning's dyno, he used a TXS TunerPro mounted in the tailpipe. At both RalliTEK dyno days I have attended, all tuning was done via the Dynojet's tailpipe-mounted wideband. It would be *nice* if most tuners used an LM-1 with proper sensor location, but I have not observed as such.

Please link me to the OR or WA law that bans road tuning, I am not familiar.
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