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Old 03-15-2007, 09:42 PM   #1
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Hey everyone! I dont post that many threads here. But I have a serious question for everyone. I would appreciate all the input.

I currently own a 2001 2.5RS (auto) with 95K miles. The car has been nothing but problems ever since i got it. I had to replace both head gaskets the second month I got it. The cel light randomly turns on and stays on for a day. Then it'll turn off and stay off for about two weeks. I want to sell the car asap, and buy a WRX of some sort or an Acura RSX-S. I love both cars but obviously can only have one. Ive test driven both, and I told myself that whichever car I come across with the best deal first, i'll buy it.

My mom tonight suggested to me to swap the engine. What a brilliant women. Im considering this option also. Im thinking about dropping a wrx engine with a sti tranny. I want to to a full sti interior swap also. Im going to go up to a local subaru shop called Agile Auto tomorow and try to get some quotes.

So what do you guys think.
1. WRX
2. RSX-S
3. ej20 swap with sti tranny and sti interior

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Old 03-15-2007, 09:44 PM   #2
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Option 3.

It's unique and just plain badass!

Oldschool ftw!
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Old 03-15-2007, 09:47 PM   #3
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The WRX will be the cheapest, eaisest and best "bang for the buck" option however the swap idea is very inticing. It seems like quite a bit of trouble for not a whole lot of gain. As far as the rsx goes, ive driven a friends and I liked it but im sure there are many threads that will tell you why a subaru is much better.
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Old 03-15-2007, 09:50 PM   #4
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The problem with WRX's is that every single one i've looked at it has been molested and modified in some way, shape AND form. So in other words im having a really hard time finding a completely stock WRX.
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Old 03-15-2007, 09:59 PM   #5
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sti swap all the way...after having awd how could you go to wwd???
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Old 03-15-2007, 10:04 PM   #6
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Old 03-15-2007, 10:05 PM   #7
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here's my opinion for #1 and #2. i have a wrx myself, and for modifying it is WAY better then the rsx-s. easier and cheaper. the one major downside to the subaru is that it has a lot of rattles (at least mine does and there's even a thread on rattles and solutions how to fix it. this is just one issue i HATE about the subaru, everything else i love). the rsx-s, i've driven my friends for an entire day, is very smooth and easy to drive. i would honestly say its a lot more comfortable but when it comes to modding, expect to pay about 3x as much to get the same power as the wrx.

as for #3...that just sounds badass sooooooo...........DO IT!

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Old 03-15-2007, 10:06 PM   #8
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Theres a guy on these Boards named Nitro Don....I dont think hes too far from you. He gets a lot of salvaged cars and might be able to help you out as far as finding a fairly new motor and drivetrain to swap. And from what I hear, his prices are very reasonable. I would go for the swap personally.
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Old 03-15-2007, 11:56 PM   #9
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If you can't fix your current car, I'd steer clear of a swap, which will require you to know a thing or two about fixing cars. Buy a stock WRX and learn how cars work before doing something major like a swap.

I bought a WRX a couple weeks ago (wanted a change from my Civic) and didn't have any problems find 3-4 untouched WRX's within 30 miles of my house.

I agree that the RSX is a joke compared to the WRX.
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Old 03-16-2007, 12:45 AM   #10
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I am not sure what you want out of the car but that is what you should base your decision on. I have an 02 wrx and a 98rs that will probably be getting a wrx swap in the next 6 months.

When driving around town though i prefer to drive my friends rsx-s. It just seems smoother and more fun to drive around town which might be what you are looking for. The wrx swap and the wrx will be similar with both of them having engines from questionable backgrounds, but you will have to make a judgement call here.

The rsx-s is nice for making runs to get some food and going to the movies but if i wanted to have some more fun on the drive I would get in the wrx. I can only imagine that the wrx swapped RS will be more fun.
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Old 03-16-2007, 12:48 AM   #11
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option4? ej25 swap. the shortblock shouldnt cost much more than the ej20
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Old 03-16-2007, 12:57 AM   #12
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2001 is oldschool? Only on nasioc...

Option 3... duh... but just because its cool. If I was in your shoes I'd honestly go with the WRX because you'll have less problems, it will be cheaper, and it really isn't going to be that hard to find. RSX? Seriously? No.

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It's unique and just plain badass!

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Old 03-16-2007, 06:40 AM   #13
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When driving around town though i prefer to drive my friends rsx-s. It just seems smoother and more fun to drive around town which might be what you are looking for.

The rsx-s is nice for making runs to get some food and going to the movies but if i wanted to have some more fun on the drive I would get in the wrx. I can only imagine that the wrx swapped RS will be more fun.
smoother i can understand but more fun???
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Old 03-16-2007, 09:27 AM   #14
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I am not sure what you want out of the car but that is what you should base your decision on. I have an 02 wrx and a 98rs that will probably be getting a wrx swap in the next 6 months.

When driving around town though i prefer to drive my friends rsx-s. It just seems smoother and more fun to drive around town which might be what you are looking for. The wrx swap and the wrx will be similar with both of them having engines from questionable backgrounds, but you will have to make a judgement call here.

The rsx-s is nice for making runs to get some food and going to the movies but if i wanted to have some more fun on the drive I would get in the wrx. I can only imagine that the wrx swapped RS will be more fun.
nothing like cruising around town in first gear at 8k rpm for vtec on demand yo!
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Old 03-16-2007, 09:33 AM   #15
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Old 03-16-2007, 10:23 AM   #16
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your on a subaru forum, of course most of them are going to say wrx or swap. RSX is a very fun and smooth car not to mention a lot more comfortable then a wrx. but if you live in a state that gets a lot of snow than a wrx would come in handy. I think you cant go wrong with either. good luck
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Old 03-16-2007, 10:26 AM   #17
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smoother i can understand but more fun???
Actually I would think the other way around. The RSX-S has a very tight suspension setup, it's not really a luxury car in that sense.

Anyways, I wouldn't say that an RS with a turbo engine swap is all that unique anymore, but it's still cool, and the power to weight ratio is great
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Old 03-16-2007, 10:54 AM   #18
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I have owned several hondas, and now I have a subaru. Honestly I would never go back, fwd is just boring and pointless if you want to make big power.
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Old 03-16-2007, 11:16 AM   #19
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i would do a sti 2.5 swap, you can get a brand new short block for around 1500-1800. There is a member on here who can get them for 1500 but i don't remember who it is. I think you can use the heads from your rs, but i'm not sure about that at all. Get them cleaned up and machined with some bigger cams to support the 2.5, all in all you'll still be cheaper than buying a new car. The rsx-s is really nice but suby all the way. but nothing compares to my suby. Stick with the rs and do a swap. Good luck

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Old 03-16-2007, 11:17 AM   #20
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If you can't fix your current car, I'd steer clear of a swap, which will require you to know a thing or two about fixing cars. Buy a stock WRX and learn how cars work before doing something major like a swap.
The only advice you should listen to in this thread. Seriously, ignore every other post. Kids these days

A swap can be a headache. You're talking dismantling a drivetrain from one car (which could have problems IN the original car... add in the possibility of defects being introduced while it's being put into your RS, and...) and putting into a car that might already have problems. Also, it takes a while. Are you prepared to be w/out your car for a couple of weeks / months?

Agile is a great shop. They will do very good by you and you'll like the car when they're done... but trust me, things will break, that's just the nature of the beast w/ a swap. And if you don't know the setup inside and out, prepare to fork over big bucks to get you back up and running again.

That being said, a used WRX is a bad idea. Look how many idiots on these forums modify wrongly, wreck, abuse, etc etc etc. You're talking about a ~24K car (brand new) that is HORRIBLY cheap and easy to modify. If you can find a stock one in your pricerange, go for it... but be absolutely certain.

Go here, I've heard nothing but good things about this place, and if you're close to Agile it might be near to you: http://www.integrityautogroup.biz/
Evidence here about why I recommend this place: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...&highlight=996

CN (sorry it got so long):
Swap: Sure, it'd be cool... but it's a headache. And it WILL get expensive down the road.
Used WRX: Too many morons (as you can see daily on these forums) modify / abuse / destroy WRXs to make me comfortable buying a used one. Fine a PRISTINE one, and ONLY buy that.
RSX: Can't comment. I know very little about them, I've driven one once and wasn't impressed (had a GS-R at the time, absolutely no comparison there), and I don't see the appeal of a bloated Civic.
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Old 03-16-2007, 11:17 AM   #21
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I have owned several hondas, and now I have a subaru. Honestly I would never go back, fwd is just boring and pointless if you want to make big power.
i dont know but i have seen videos of swapped hondas boosting well over 400-500 hp range. im on both sides. there are pros and cons of each. if traction is the concern than yes AWD FTW.
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Old 03-16-2007, 11:21 AM   #22
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****stands up, slowly starts clapping**** ur mom is awesome, how many people can say thier mom suggested an sti swap,lol. Speaking of which thats what id do if i were you, if i had a GC coupe. hey check the members forum they were posting some hot gc drift/time attack coupes yesterday, nice looking stuff. in the end its your money and your choice dont let nasioc sway to too far.
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Old 03-16-2007, 11:23 AM   #23
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****stands up, slowly starts clapping**** ur mom is awesome, how many people can say thier mom suggested an sti swap,lol. Speaking of which thats what id do if i were you, if i had a GC coupe. hey check the members forum they were posting some hot gc drift/time attack coupes yesterday, nice looking stuff. in the end its your money and your choice dont let nasioc sway to too far.
Your mom is awesome! My parents are totally against a swap even if I did it myself and paid for it myself...
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Old 03-16-2007, 11:46 AM   #24
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-> Actually it depends how you want your car to be, I used to own 1992 Acura Integra GS-R and I love them to death. Now I have an 2006 WRX Wagon and used to own a 2004, and I'm pretty much convinced that I will be loyal to Subaru from here on.

->Point is, the only drawback of owning my Subie are the higher than expected maintenance costs and parts for tuning (parts are a lot less on the WRX wagon compared to the WRX sedan). One thing I miss back in my Honda days was the parts are almost everywhere (not just for tuning). But don't get me wrong, AWD makes me smile all day and that "simple" boost is addicting. But I also miss the reflexes of a lighter weight of a FWD Honda/Acura and the howl of the VTEC.

-> The two reasons why I switched from Honda's to a Subaru are:

- AWD (weather proof traction)
- Wagon (American Honda doesn't offer one [I want the 5-door Civic Diesel from Europe though], SUV's are pointless, and WRX wagon can kick butt too)

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