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Old 03-17-2007, 10:00 AM   #1
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Default My take on hauling tires on the hitch.

Some may have seen or have the Tire Tail for hauling their rims & tires.
I have heard the Tire Tail jiggles a bit on the highway.



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Some like the small trailers available at Menards or Harbor Freight (I have the 4'x8' one my self).

If you know some one or have a welder & feel competent, the material will total up to $70-80
I took a very short receiver tongue with a 2" rise & ground off the powder coat.
1 - 2" x 3/16" x 4' angle
2 - 1.5" x 1/8" x 4' angle
1 - 1.5" x 3/16 x 3' angle
1 - 1.5" x 3/16 x 3' flat
1 - 1" x 1/8" x 4' angle
8 - 1.5" steel rings

The interior dimension of the frame is 48" x 19.5"
Platform Weight - 28#
Bottom of tires off ground - 9"

The pics here have a set of 225's on them.
I added three LED marker lights to the rear wired in for L,R, & Tail operation

As shown in the overlay pic the centerline of the weight is about what the Tire Tail appears to be.
The Tire Tail puts the tires on a longer arm higher up as well.











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Old 03-17-2007, 11:19 AM   #2
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I LOVE IT! I use my S10 to haul stuff in but making your own ***** is the *****. Post more when you are finished.
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Old 03-17-2007, 11:20 AM   #3
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Props to you for being creative and finding an alternative solution. Subscribed for curiosity to see how the finished "product" ends up.

*EDIT - How low to the ground does that thing sit? It seems like you could easily scrape the bottom if you went up a driveway or something. Does it feel sturdy? (Compared to a Tire-Tail if you've tried one)
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Old 03-17-2007, 11:25 AM   #4
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Did you do the math on that? Structurally that is?

Besides that, you're certainly over the tongue weight of an Impreza...so keep in eye on it. 5 g's in bump with 160-190 lbs of wheel/tire can do some damage (to the rig, let alone rear shocks, etc.). I know a trailer is more expensive, but if money was no object, a little 4 x 4 for $170 is hard to beat.

+1 on doing a cool little project, let us know how it works out.

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Old 03-17-2007, 06:14 PM   #5
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Did you do the math on that? Structurally that is?
I'm biasing the tongue weight on the distances & leverage of the Tire Tail.
As far as structural design there is triangulated bracing underneath that is hard to see.
I compared the thicknesses of material to the platforms that are rated up to 400-500#

The bottoms of the tires will be approximately 9" off the ground.

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Old 03-17-2007, 07:34 PM   #6
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I'm biasing the tongue weight on the distances & leverage of the Tire Tail.
As far as structural design there is triangulated bracing underneath that is hard to see.
I compared the thicknesses of material to the platforms that are rated up to 400-500#

The bottoms of the tires will be approximately 18+" off the ground.
The tire tails shape is stronger than a single straight beam in shear. The platform may be fine for 400 lbs, but your max tongue weight is only 200...and your weight is placed further out then that tongue weight spec is given for. You are exceeding that by a fair amount I'd bet.

Just playing devils advocate here, as I know a lot of cars actually sustain some damage using tire tails, and of course, over long distances, that weight does a number on your shocks.

I've run a platform before, bought from Home Depot, much like the one you have, so I'm not saying its not fine...just typing my thoughts after using mine for a while and deciding on a 4 x 4 trailer instead.
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The actual weight we are dealing with is:
40# a tire = 160#
Platform = 28#
So we are at 188#

Yes, the leverage concerns me.

I'll be doing a comparative check on the load centerline VS. the "Tire Tail".
Having the load more in line (low) with the hitch will help with load stability.
The leverage of the Tire Tail really makes me wonder how much abuse a hitch will take.

As far as my struts in the rear, that is minor compared to other issues.

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Old 03-17-2007, 11:02 PM   #8
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Here is the Tire Tail on an overlay with my car...
The weight center line appears to be very close.

Any thoughts?

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One thought comes to mind from one of your pictures are, can you be tickets for blocking your brake lights/turn signals?

Are there any hooks in your trunk that you can anchor a pair of straps/tie downs to support it even further? Hopefully your trunk will close with the straps taunt.

Maybe straps from the rear wing deck?

The last one was a joke..
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Old 03-19-2007, 06:27 PM   #10
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One thought comes to mind from one of your pictures are, can you be tickets for blocking your brake lights/turn signals?
The blinkers are unobstructed, & the brake & tail lights are 1/2 covered.
I added the marker lights to the rear so that there is something more.
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Old 03-19-2007, 08:30 PM   #11
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looks good. I've used the Harbor Frieght trailer and now I use the tire tail.

What kind of damage can the tail cause on a car? I've used mine for a couple of years with no problems.
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Old 03-19-2007, 09:08 PM   #12
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Here is some information taken from Hidden Hitches Website & Instruction Manuals.

http://www.hiddenhitch.com/

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WARNING: With a 5000 lb. rated receiver the cargo carrier can carry a maximum 500 lb. load,
with a 3500 lb. rated receiver it can carry a maximum 300 lb. load. DO NOT EXCEED lower of vehicle mfg’s or hitch mfg’s maximum tongue
weight rating.

WARNING: Not for transport of people, animals, or flammable liquids.

WARNING: If the load or cargo carrier blocks or impairs visibility of the taillights or turn signals, the optional light kit must be used.
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Class I
Class I hitches are weight carrying (WC) hitches rated up to 2000 lbs. gross trailer weight (GTW) with a maximum trailer tongue weight (TW) of 200 lbs. The use of a drawbar and hitch ball of the same rating or higher is required. Some hitches in this class may attach to the vehicle bumper or trunk pan. Most other Class I hitches attach to the vehicle frame. Always consult your owner's manual for vehicle rating.

Class II
Class II hitches are weight carrying (WC) hitches rated up to 3500 lbs. gross trailer weight (GTW) with a maximum trailer tongue weight (TW) of 300 lbs. The use of a drawbar and hitch ball of the same rating or higher is required. Class II hitches normally attach to the vehicle frame and or bumper. Always consult your owner's manual for vehicle rating.
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