Sleep...How much is good, how much is bad

Lever2ooo · 03-22-2007, 01:42 PM

I have recently changed my sleeping habits due to job change and was wondering what the consequences are going to be/not be.

I used to be completely useless unless I got at least 9 hours of sleep

Now I average about 5 to 6 (1 hour naps included) and am pretty active. I work 40 hour weeks, go to school full time, box in the amateurs, go to gym and party.

Questions:
How much sleep is optimal
9+ hours of sleep is bad or good?
Can I catch up on sleep? (ie: average 6 hours of sleep most of the week and sleep 14 hours once a week)
Whats optimal for an active person?
What are side effects of sleep shortages?
etc, etc, etc.

Any links to legit articles about sleep studies would be help

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boxered · 03-22-2007, 01:44 PM

Differs from person to person but the minimum is 7 with most health experts recommending 8.

Sephro · 03-22-2007, 01:45 PM

Yeah between 7-8.. depends on how active you are.. The more active you are the more you should get...

Damn Yankee · 03-22-2007, 01:45 PM

you can't catch up...sort of. You can't sleep like 14 hours and then not sleep for 3 days. That doesn't work.

fokai · 03-22-2007, 01:45 PM

The only way for me to feel fresh and able to go with out caffiene is to get 9 hours of sleep. I don't care what any of those fools say. I take alot of naps too, it feels like it resets my brain.

Affects of sleep shortages, if you're a very active person (like me) will cause your body to break down/not heal quick.

Lever2ooo · 03-22-2007, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fokai

The only way for me to feel fresh and able to go with out caffiene is to get 9 hours of sleep. I don't care what any of those fools say. I take alot of naps too, it feels like it resets my brain.

Affects of sleep shortages, if you're a very active person (like me) will cause your body to break down/not heal quick.

Oh man. Now to just figure out how to balance everything out so I can have my cake and eat it too.

I cant work any less for financial reasons. I cant drop out of school becuase well I am already behind. I have no desire to quit boxing/muay thai because I love it and I need a social life because well I am young and I dont want to look back and have regrets.

fokai · 03-22-2007, 01:53 PM

Yeah I do MMA and I have to sleep alot to heal. I get shoulder pains and other little things if I don't rest enough.

boxered · 03-22-2007, 01:53 PM

What's more important..not getting enough sleep and suffering the consequences by 40 or adjusting to make your health a priority and being healthy (and happy).

Damn Yankee · 03-22-2007, 01:56 PM

you'll be fine getting 6 hours a night and a little more on the weekends...

hell, this is my weekend this past weekend:

Friday night, get 9 hours, get up at 8am. Get to work at 4pm, work until 5:30 AM, go home, get to bed at 6:30

Sleep until noon (5.5 hours), back to work at 4pm. Work until 3am Get home, go to sleep by 4:30am, get up at 8:30am (4 hours), go to court. Get home from court, hoping for a nap...no such luck.
Go to work 4pm, work until 3am again. By this time I'm BEAT. I've also not had caffeine since 5pm. I had no problems falling asleep that night!!

aod · 03-22-2007, 01:56 PM

Sleep is totally overrated.

BhamRoadrunner · 03-22-2007, 01:58 PM

4-6 hours for 2.5 years straight is probably not good.

Ask me about my last 2.5 years

fokai · 03-22-2007, 02:01 PM

yeah I can tell you now that 6 hours + work stress + physical activity doesn't work too good for the body.

Lever2ooo · 03-22-2007, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fokai

yeah I can tell you now that 6 hours + work stress + physical activity doesn't work too good for the body.

Well its only for a little bit, in 6 months once I transfer to a real school, it will go to.

Wake up -> Class -> Nap -> Training -> Nap -> Study -> Nap - > Party -> Sleep - > Back to Step One

frenchie · 03-22-2007, 02:17 PM

the method 6 hours or less during the week and 14hrs the week end doesn't really work efficiently.
I've been doing that for the past month and I can feel the difference. I usually also need 9hr/night.
At the moment, I am much more irritable, I have difficulties to concentrate on something for a long time, I'm getting a bad cold and I drink ton of tea everyday to be able to stay awake during meetings..But yeah i see you point in willing to keep active and social..I'm still hoping that my body will get use to it.

Frenchie

Lever2ooo · 03-22-2007, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frenchie

the method 6 hours or less during the week and 14hrs the week end doesn't really work efficiently.
I've been doing that for the past month and I can feel the difference. I usually also need 9hr/night.
At the moment, I am much more irritable, I have difficulties to concentrate on something for a long time, I'm getting a bad cold and I drink ton of tea everyday to be able to stay awake during meetings..But yeah i see you point in willing to keep active and social..I'm still hoping that my body will get use to it.

Frenchie

You will get used to it, your body at least does. But, be warned, it will hit you at a point where you NEED sleep, like there is no choice, you can try to fight it but you will literally fall asleep the second your head hits the pillow and will not wake up until you are rested even if a canon goes off next to you.

I find time to get sleep eveywhere. On the way to the bar if someone is driving, on the way to the club, in between classes, pre boxing naps are money

jasonallenross · 03-22-2007, 02:22 PM

How do YOU feel?

I know I'm getting enough sleep when:
- I wake up BEFORE my alarm clock goes off, or on the first beep
- I am not constantly seeking sweets during the day

If you are pushing yourself out of bed, drinking a pot of coffee, drinking caffeinated soda and then still feeling tired you aren't getting enough sleep.

Generally, you can't "make up" sleep by going longer on the weekend -- get that sleep during the week consistently and you will do better.

bobturismo · 03-22-2007, 02:23 PM

it's not the hours, but the type and quality

Lever2ooo · 03-22-2007, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonallenross

How do YOU feel?

I know I'm getting enough sleep when:
- I wake up BEFORE my alarm clock goes off, or on the first beep
- I am not constantly seeking sweets during the day

If you are pushing yourself out of bed, drinking a pot of coffee, drinking caffeinated soda and then still feeling tired you aren't getting enough sleep.

Generally, you can't "make up" sleep by going longer on the weekend -- get that sleep during the week consistently and you will do better.

Well here is the strange part:
BEFORE i used to not be able to fall asleep until 2 am every night when I got 9 hours of sleep and would still struggle to get up (fighting with the alarm and such)

NOW I get 6 hours if I am lucky and I sleep like I am dead and get up the moment the alarm rings ( I am not happy about it but I do it)

I can't exactly figure out whether its becuase I will lose my job if I am late or what...but I kind of like it

InfamousDX · 03-22-2007, 02:33 PM

Taking note of your heart rate before you sleep and when you wake up should help you gauge things... read it somewhere but too lazy to link it.

aod · 03-22-2007, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lever2ooo

Well here is the strange part:
BEFORE i used to not be able to fall asleep until 2 am every night when I got 9 hours of sleep and would still struggle to get up (fighting with the alarm and such)

NOW I get 6 hours if I am lucky and I sleep like I am dead and get up the moment the alarm rings ( I am not happy about it but I do it)

I can't exactly figure out whether its becuase I will lose my job if I am late or what...but I kind of like it

Too much sleep makes you groggy and it is hard to get up. I have to purposely get right around 6 hours of sleep a night. Too little and I'm too tired the next day, too much and I just don't want to get up. Pain in the ass.

Blindeye_03 · 03-22-2007, 02:49 PM

weird...I sleep MUCH LESS when I am active - like working out or swimming, etc...

Just started working out again for the past 3 weeks and before that it had been maybe 6 months of being lazy...and I slept wayyy too much

bhall · 03-22-2007, 03:03 PM

I think its whatever feels good to you. If I get more then 6 hours I am dead all day less than 4 I tend to drag as well.

03-22-2007, 01:42 PM	#1
Lever2ooo Scooby Specialist Member#: 51708 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Kazahstan Vehicle: ** your hippy **!!!	Sleep...How much is good, how much is bad I have recently changed my sleeping habits due to job change and was wondering what the consequences are going to be/not be. I used to be completely useless unless I got at least 9 hours of sleep Now I average about 5 to 6 (1 hour naps included) and am pretty active. I work 40 hour weeks, go to school full time, box in the amateurs, go to gym and party. Questions: How much sleep is optimal 9+ hours of sleep is bad or good? Can I catch up on sleep? (ie: average 6 hours of sleep most of the week and sleep 14 hours once a week) Whats optimal for an active person? What are side effects of sleep shortages? etc, etc, etc. Any links to legit articles about sleep studies would be help * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

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boxered Scooby Specialist Member#: 61884 Join Date: May 2004 Chapter/Region: International Location: buying guns	Differs from person to person but the minimum is 7 with most health experts recommending 8.

03-22-2007, 01:45 PM	#3
Sephro Scooby Specialist Member#: 22319 Join Date: Aug 2002 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Hudson MA Vehicle: 05 LGT LDT	Yeah between 7-8.. depends on how active you are.. The more active you are the more you should get...

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Damn Yankee Scooby Newbie Member#: 53066 Join Date: Jan 2004 Chapter/Region: South East Location: I guess a legend and an out of Vehicle: work bum look a lot alike, daddy.	you can't catch up...sort of. You can't sleep like 14 hours and then not sleep for 3 days. That doesn't work.

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fokai Scooby Newbie Member#: 91858 Join Date: Jul 2005 Chapter/Region: South East Location: F. Walton Beach/Pcola Florida Vehicle: 1864 The clown has NO penis	The only way for me to feel fresh and able to go with out caffiene is to get 9 hours of sleep. I don't care what any of those fools say. I take alot of naps too, it feels like it resets my brain. Affects of sleep shortages, if you're a very active person (like me) will cause your body to break down/not heal quick.

03-22-2007, 01:53 PM	#7
fokai Scooby Newbie Member#: 91858 Join Date: Jul 2005 Chapter/Region: South East Location: F. Walton Beach/Pcola Florida Vehicle: 1864 The clown has NO penis	Yeah I do MMA and I have to sleep alot to heal. I get shoulder pains and other little things if I don't rest enough.

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Damn Yankee Scooby Newbie Member#: 53066 Join Date: Jan 2004 Chapter/Region: South East Location: I guess a legend and an out of Vehicle: work bum look a lot alike, daddy.	you'll be fine getting 6 hours a night and a little more on the weekends... hell, this is my weekend this past weekend: Friday night, get 9 hours, get up at 8am. Get to work at 4pm, work until 5:30 AM, go home, get to bed at 6:30 Sleep until noon (5.5 hours), back to work at 4pm. Work until 3am Get home, go to sleep by 4:30am, get up at 8:30am (4 hours), go to court. Get home from court, hoping for a nap...no such luck. Go to work 4pm, work until 3am again. By this time I'm BEAT. I've also not had caffeine since 5pm. I had no problems falling asleep that night!!

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aod NASIOC Supporter Member#: 7121 Join Date: Jun 2001 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Dray is Oregon	Sleep is totally overrated.

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BhamRoadrunner Scooby Specialist Member#: 87294 Join Date: May 2005 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Wanna fight ab'at it?	4-6 hours for 2.5 years straight is probably not good. Ask me about my last 2.5 years

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fokai Scooby Newbie Member#: 91858 Join Date: Jul 2005 Chapter/Region: South East Location: F. Walton Beach/Pcola Florida Vehicle: 1864 The clown has NO penis	yeah I can tell you now that 6 hours + work stress + physical activity doesn't work too good for the body.

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frenchie Scooby Newbie Member#: 121478 Join Date: Jul 2006 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Lyndhurst, nj Vehicle: 1996 Impreza red	the method 6 hours or less during the week and 14hrs the week end doesn't really work efficiently. I've been doing that for the past month and I can feel the difference. I usually also need 9hr/night. At the moment, I am much more irritable, I have difficulties to concentrate on something for a long time, I'm getting a bad cold and I drink ton of tea everyday to be able to stay awake during meetings..But yeah i see you point in willing to keep active and social..I'm still hoping that my body will get use to it. Frenchie

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jasonallenross Scooby Specialist Member#: 125978 Join Date: Sep 2006 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Shrewsbury, MA Vehicle: 2002 WRX Wagon Silver	How do YOU feel? I know I'm getting enough sleep when: - I wake up BEFORE my alarm clock goes off, or on the first beep - I am not constantly seeking sweets during the day If you are pushing yourself out of bed, drinking a pot of coffee, drinking caffeinated soda and then still feeling tired you aren't getting enough sleep. Generally, you can't "make up" sleep by going longer on the weekend -- get that sleep during the week consistently and you will do better.

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bobturismo Scooby Specialist Member#: 42145 Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: cruizin' down the street in my Vehicle: 6-4 jockin da bish- es and slappin the ho's.	it's not the hours, but the type and quality

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InfamousDX Scooby Guru Member#: 25413 Join Date: Sep 2002 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: North NJ	Taking note of your heart rate before you sleep and when you wake up should help you gauge things... read it somewhere but too lazy to link it.

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Blindeye_03 Scooby Guru Member#: 4418 Join Date: Feb 2001 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Woodstock, Georgia Vehicle: 2008 S2000 Black	weird...I sleep MUCH LESS when I am active - like working out or swimming, etc... Just started working out again for the past 3 weeks and before that it had been maybe 6 months of being lazy...and I slept wayyy too much

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bhall Scooby Newbie Member#: 56015 Join Date: Feb 2004 Chapter/Region: RMIC Location: Denver, CO Vehicle: No you're a towel!	I think its whatever feels good to you. If I get more then 6 hours I am dead all day less than 4 I tend to drag as well.