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Old 03-22-2007, 09:15 AM   #1
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PWN3D This looks like a relaxing cruise...

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Old 03-22-2007, 09:17 AM   #2
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Old 03-22-2007, 09:19 AM   #3
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Old 03-22-2007, 09:19 AM   #4
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Old 03-22-2007, 09:20 AM   #5
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I'd show this to my pop, but he'd just laugh at me that it was calm enough for frosty drinks on the deck. 50ft swells in a Navy Destroyer is more of a rollercoaster apparently.
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Old 03-22-2007, 09:21 AM   #6
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"Boy this buffet is great!"
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Old 03-22-2007, 09:22 AM   #7
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Old 03-22-2007, 09:23 AM   #8
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Holy ***** that'd be scary
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Old 03-22-2007, 09:23 AM   #9
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The seas were actually fairly calm, it was a fatty cruise and they were doing the Electric Slide.
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Old 03-22-2007, 09:36 AM   #10
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That's nothing. When you negative-g yourself into a deck-head, then let me know.
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Old 03-22-2007, 09:48 AM   #11
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Everything looks peaceful from 1454 feet.
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Vomitorium.

It's all relative though. My father told me this story about being in Vietnam on a destroyer and they were getting some huge swells, so bad that the boat was going almost straight up and straight down. A crewman from their boat got stuck on the carrier in their group when this storm came up. He was watching the destroyer just getting pummeled, meanwhile the carrier was sort of lazily rocking about. He goes down into the ship and all the guys on the carrier are getting sick meanwhile he's enjoying a nice hearty meal.
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[sailing joke]
"That looks swell!"
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Wow, looks like fun. I hope this wasn't actually during a cruise as a lot of fat bastard Americans would get hurt and very seasick there, but it's not that bad if you're used to the ocean.
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My father told me this story about being in Vietnam on a destroyer.
I wonder how many of our Dads were in the Navy in Vietnam. My Dad is color blind so it was the navy or the possibility of being drafted into the army, and then being "point" because camo doesn't work on color blind people.... He's got similar stories only his are more like "you know it's rough when you see the sonar dome on the destroyer next to you..." and that theid submerge the bows under green water.... Sounds like fun...

I've been out in 60 knots and 20' seas in a 60' sailboat, it wasn't horrible, but it was enough to know I don't want to be out in more than that if I can help it.... I have a healthy respect for the ocean, that's for sure.

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[sailing joke]
"That looks swell!"
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Wow, looks like fun. I hope this wasn't actually during a cruise as a lot of fat bastard Americans would get hurt and very seasick there, but it's not that bad if you're used to the ocean.
I would have to disagree. A ship that large, listing THAT much, is bound to make most people sick, even if you're used to the ocean.

Now, if you've been on big boats on the ocean all of your life, then maybe you'd be ok. I've never been sea sick, but then again I've never hit that rough of water on such a large ship. The average person who I'd consider familiar with rough ocean would've never experienced it on such a large scale as a cruise ship.
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My uncle recently retired from the Navy after putting in 25. I remember him telling me about being on a frigate in the early 90s in the Pacific during a typhoon. He said it was the worst he'd ever seen. Despite knowing the ships and how capable they were he said he really thought the ship was going to sink.
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I wonder how many of our Dads were in the Navy in Vietnam. My Dad is color blind so it was the navy or the possibility of being drafted into the army, and then being "point" because camo doesn't work on color blind people.... He's got similar stories only his are more like "you know it's rough when you see the sonar dome on the destroyer next to you..." and that theid submerge the bows under green water.... Sounds like fun...

I've been out in 60 knots and 20' seas in a 60' sailboat, it wasn't horrible, but it was enough to know I don't want to be out in more than that if I can help it.... I have a healthy respect for the ocean, that's for sure.

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Yeah, my father went in as an officer so he was a Lieutenant back then on the destroyer. He has some interesting stories from those days. He doesn't hear well now, the legacy of zero ear protection and 8" guns going off nearby. He went into the JAG corps after finishing Stamford law and retired as a Captain.
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I would have to disagree. A ship that large, listing THAT much, is bound to make most people sick, even if you're used to the ocean.

Now, if you've been on big boats on the ocean all of your life, then maybe you'd be ok. I've never been sea sick, but then again I've never hit that rough of water on such a large ship. The average person who I'd consider familiar with rough ocean would've never experienced it on such a large scale as a cruise ship.
Well I don't know how much time you've spent on boats, but some people have rock hard stomachs, some don't. NASA can get anyone "motion sick" on their little gyro thing, they do this to every astronaut to see where their limits are. I've been on boats in nasty conditions and have yet to get sick... I've been rocking/rolling as much as that video before, and it was OK... Just sit down and hold on. I'm sure even of the crew on board a few were sick. I'm sure others weren't.

It's all what your brain is thinking... Basically all motion sickness is all from something similar. You're in a situation where you're sitting down (usually) and everything looks like it's a house to you brain. IE there is a table/chair whatever that you see. It's holding still. You're holding still. Your back is in a chair, your ass is in a chair, your feet are on the ground... But your brain is like "HOLEY ****, WHAT'S GOING ON HERE???? HE'S BEEN DRINKING AGAIN?!?!?" and that's how you get sick. Different people get sick at different points, but everyone can get sick to some extent. The basic ways to prevent it are to keep the mental aspects as limited as you can. IE don't sit where you're in a room with no view. Try not so sit at all if you can. Keep as much of your body moving with the motion as you can. Look out at the horizon as then you brain will know a bit more of what's going on. Try to get "fresh air" and see if that all helps. I'm lucky enough I have a pretty good stomach at sea. I've not gotten sick yet, but I've been close when I watched someone else get sick....

I learned all of the above in a safety at seas seminar before a Bermuda race... Before that I thought it was all just "wimps" that got sick, but it's not.... Some people have a better tolerance, and some people can force themselves mentally past normal conditions, but everyone gets motion sickness to some extent.

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Yeah, my father went in as an officer so he was a Lieutenant back then on the destroyer. He has some interesting stories from those days. He doesn't hear well now, the legacy of zero ear protection and 8" guns going off nearby. He went into the JAG corps after finishing Stamford law and retired as a Captain.
My Dad was on the Samuel B Roberts. They toured Europe more than anything else. He went to OCS in Newport before going to see, and he also was stationed in Adak Alaska after that. He was a Lieutenant "JG" whatever that means. I've never been in any service so all the ranks confuse me... But he was the supply officer... Has some very interesting stories about dealing with the mafia in Europe to get the laundry done...


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My uncle recently retired from the Navy after putting in 25. I remember him telling me about being on a frigate in the early 90s in the Pacific during a typhoon. He said it was the worst he'd ever seen. Despite knowing the ships and how capable they were he said he really thought the ship was going to sink.
my dad had to ride out a hurricane tied to the pier at NOB in Norfolk. They had pulled the ship's boilers for repair and the ship had no ability to put to sea. Not sure whether that's worse than being at sea, but not good at all
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Seems like a nice cruise for a Bud Light drinker.

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My Dad was on the Samuel B Roberts. They toured Europe more than anything else. He went to OCS in Newport before going to see, and he also was stationed in Adak Alaska after that. He was a Lieutenant "JG" whatever that means. I've never been in any service so all the ranks confuse me... But he was the supply officer... Has some very interesting stories about dealing with the mafia in Europe to get the laundry done...
Dad was in and around Vietnam for his tours. JG is junior grade, sort of a step down from full Lieutenant. I never went into the military either, Dad wasn't perturbed by this. He had his ups and downs with the military. Sometimes it's hard being a smart person in the service (the guy went to Princeton undergrad and Stamford law). He eventually had a great experience with it when he got to the JAG corps (I mean, how could it not be awesome, we've seen the show!)
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Well I don't know how much time you've spent on boats, but some people have rock hard stomachs, some don't. NASA can get anyone "motion sick" on their little gyro thing, they do this to every astronaut to see where their limits are. I've been on boats in nasty conditions and have yet to get sick... I've been rocking/rolling as much as that video before, and it was OK... Just sit down and hold on. I'm sure even of the crew on board a few were sick. I'm sure others weren't.

It's all what your brain is thinking... Basically all motion sickness is all from something similar. You're in a situation where you're sitting down (usually) and everything looks like it's a house to you brain. IE there is a table/chair whatever that you see. It's holding still. You're holding still. Your back is in a chair, your ass is in a chair, your feet are on the ground... But your brain is like "HOLEY ****, WHAT'S GOING ON HERE???? HE'S BEEN DRINKING AGAIN?!?!?" and that's how you get sick. Different people get sick at different points, but everyone can get sick to some extent. The basic ways to prevent it are to keep the mental aspects as limited as you can. IE don't sit where you're in a room with no view. Try not so sit at all if you can. Keep as much of your body moving with the motion as you can. Look out at the horizon as then you brain will know a bit more of what's going on. Try to get "fresh air" and see if that all helps. I'm lucky enough I have a pretty good stomach at sea. I've not gotten sick yet, but I've been close when I watched someone else get sick....

I learned all of the above in a safety at seas seminar before a Bermuda race... Before that I thought it was all just "wimps" that got sick, but it's not.... Some people have a better tolerance, and some people can force themselves mentally past normal conditions, but everyone gets motion sickness to some extent.






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For the record, it was me that posted under 2pt5RS's account.

I agree with everything you're saying, but I think that the average ocean going person, who doesn't get sea sick, would puke their ****ing guts out in oceans like that. There are 3 kinds of people. People who get seasick, people who don't get seasick in rough seas, and people who get don't get seasick. Of course, this is just to a certain extent, but you know what I mean
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Dad wasn't perturbed by this. He had his ups and downs with the military. Sometimes it's hard being a smart person in the service (the guy went to Princeton undergrad and Stamford law).
Yep, my Dad was the same. He put himself through college on a football scholarship, then grad school after the Navy. He did the navy to avoid the draft (getting killed in the army FTL) and to pay for grad school. He had zero issues with me not going.

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I agree with everything you're saying, but I think that the average ocean going person, who doesn't get sea sick, would puke their ****ing guts out in oceans like that. There are 3 kinds of people. People who get seasick, people who don't get seasick in rough seas, and people who get don't get seasick. Of course, this is just to a certain extent, but you know what I mean
I would say it depends on where you are... Inside with no windows, probably yes, with windows maybe, maybe not... As I said I was in a 60' sailboat in 60 knots and 20' seas. Basically we were rolling pretty close to what you see in that video. Only 1 of the 4 of us got sick, and he got sick when he was working on the motor in those conditions. (Upside down, diesel smell, small space FTL) So yeah, I agree on the 3 types of people, but unless the 3 of us that didn't get sick are the third type, I think you can take more than you think... FYI one of the guys who didn't get sick was my Dad and he has been sick twice in the Navy... My mom and I were the other 2. Neither of us have ever been sick FWIW. I did come close with the fourth guy barfed right next to me though.... But that's move of a seeing someone barf thing than a seasick thing.

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