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Old 08-11-2007, 11:43 PM   #251
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That was hot. I would like to see more.

Oh yea, your running 25psi on the 39?
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Old 08-12-2007, 09:41 AM   #252
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Yeah, so is it almost fixed?
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Old 09-12-2007, 10:26 AM   #253
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cobras are nothiong special when they are on stock blower
You realize that a stock blower Cobra can run 10's...w/o nitrous

http://media.putfile.com/10-second-eaton
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Old 09-12-2007, 11:29 AM   #254
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This is very impressive.....I now have something to set my goals to hopefully by the end of next week
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Old 09-12-2007, 01:33 PM   #255
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Hey down,

Is your car almost fixed yet?? Just curious if you will be striving for that 11.5xx any time soon.
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Old 09-12-2007, 03:47 PM   #256
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You realize that a stock blower Cobra can run 10's...w/o nitrous

http://media.putfile.com/10-second-eaton
Nothing special
yea i seen that around..
thats mad props

cobras get the WHP but when it comes down to the track alot of cobras down here at my area have been struggling to 11s with either full bolt on pulley or kennenbell or whipple

im sure you know around the state that most of cobras on kennel bell or whipple cant even hit 10s on the track im i right?

thats a very rare one stock eaton to 10s
i know you said stock blower but i jus want to make sure if that was a ported blower?
im almos certian he has gears for drag
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Old 09-12-2007, 03:51 PM   #257
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thats amazing
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Old 09-12-2007, 03:52 PM   #258
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Hey down,

Is your car almost fixed yet?? Just curious if you will be striving for that 11.5xx any time soon.
sup mikey..

i see you betrayed 04 05 06 by getting the " ALMIGHTY " 07 STi.. ahahaaha jus playing

to body looks good its fixed already
its at the dealer right now getting the gastank that has a slighly big bent on it
replaced it should be back by the end of the week, or next week.

gonna do full maintenance on the car first. then save up to hit the track
expect time slip around end of october - mid november

hows the 07 threating ya?
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Old 09-13-2007, 02:14 AM   #259
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Let me know when you head out sean, I would like to get the Red out there on the track when its nice and cool.
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Old 09-13-2007, 10:40 AM   #260
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sup mikey..

i see you betrayed 04 05 06 by getting the " ALMIGHTY " 07 STi.. ahahaaha jus playing

to body looks good its fixed already
its at the dealer right now getting the gastank that has a slighly big bent on it
replaced it should be back by the end of the week, or next week.

gonna do full maintenance on the car first. then save up to hit the track
expect time slip around end of october - mid november

hows the 07 threating ya?
Down, why are you always hating on the 07's so much? Sure they have their problems like any other year, but in the right hands the 07 is CAPABLE of better times than previous years (gears, and proper tuning of new ecu). Don't worry, I'm sure someone that knows how to drive will end up crankin their 43 up to 25 psi on some racegas and setting the bar. Its only a matter of time
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Old 09-13-2007, 01:54 PM   #261
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sup mikey..

i see you betrayed 04 05 06 by getting the " ALMIGHTY " 07 STi.. ahahaaha jus playing

to body looks good its fixed already
its at the dealer right now getting the gastank that has a slighly big bent on it
replaced it should be back by the end of the week, or next week.

gonna do full maintenance on the car first. then save up to hit the track
expect time slip around end of october - mid november

hows the 07 threating ya?

The 07 is treating me pretty well. I've only gone to the track once this season with it. The car is pretty much stock, other than a fuel pump, exhaust and tune. On pump I made 292whp with the infamous slight fall off at redline. Anyway, she did 12.4 @110 my very first run out this season (granny shifting to get a feel for the new gearbox). The next run out I bogged the launch (2.38 60ft ) and still went 13.000
Anyway, if there's nothing else to do this weekend I think I'll go out and try for my first 11 second pass on the stocker. And, about the gears.... They are nothing special at all. You still have to hit fifth in order to utilize the powerband. The only real difference with dragging these cars is that 5th gear has a smoother transition than the previous years. But, i guess 4 shifts in a 1/4 is four shifts nonetheless.

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Old 09-13-2007, 07:05 PM   #262
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Down, why are you always hating on the 07's so much? Sure they have their problems like any other year, but in the right hands the 07 is CAPABLE of better times than previous years (gears, and proper tuning of new ecu). Don't worry, I'm sure someone that knows how to drive will end up crankin their 43 up to 25 psi on some racegas and setting the bar. Its only a matter of time
hahaha nah

im not hating on 07 STi. its jus that people coount out 04 05 06 sti b4 people started modding07 STi


i have many friends that owns 07 STi
and im current helping 2 07 STi to get where im at

hmm when u saying gears advantage... are you sure about that?

theres been couple with a modded 07 on stock turbo and they all gotten faster times shifting to 5th gear than letting it rev out to 4th to redline
read the threads of the fastest stock turbo 07 STi
they even said it them selves that they gotten faster time shifting it to 5th gear than leaving it to 4th gear

here read this

http://www.iwsti.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97674

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12.2@110 with only 4 gears? Something's wrong there. Its gotta be knocking up top. 12.219@111.77 with 5 gears full weight and only 100oct self tuned. Theres much more to tuning a drag car than just numbers. Im sure Ed can really chime in on car's setup for the 1/4. Everything must complement eachother and some areas really need to be massaged. A dyno is pretty much useless in this case especially one without an eddy current.
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I'm actually pretty sure that 07's with a stock turbo need to be shifted to 5th at race gas levels. I think it was Junior who ran a couple times revving out 4th and then tried shifting to 5th around 6k RPM. The runs that were shifted to 5th were consistently quicker. The powerband with a stock turbo on a lot of boost just doesn't lend itself to being revved out to redline. This is especially true with how much closer the ratios of 4th and 5th are in the new tranny.

As far as tuning for drag racing, you're correct. There's a lot that needs to be done to keep knock at bay during hard shifting. This is especially true with the 07's. Once an 07 ECU hears knock and pulls some timing, it gives it back very slowly .5* degrees at a time, so you end up with significantly less advance through the rest of the gear. The previous year ECU's would pull some timing on a shift and then return to normal mapped timing within a couple hundred RPM.

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Old 09-13-2007, 07:15 PM   #263
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hahaha nah

im not hating on 07 STi. its jus that people coount out 04 05 06 sti b4 people started modding07 STi


i have many friends that owns 07 STi
and im current helping 2 07 STi to get where im at

hmm when u saying gears advantage... are you sure about that?

theres been couple with a modded 07 on stock turbo and they all gotten faster times shifting to 5th gear than letting it rev out to 4th to redline
read the threads of the fastest stock turbo 07 STi
they even said it them selves that they gotten faster time shifting it to 5th gear than leaving it to 4th gear

here read this
I totally agree. Thats what i meant up top, the gears serve no real advantage at all.
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Old 09-13-2007, 07:20 PM   #264
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The 07 is treating me pretty well. I've only gone to the track once this season with it. The car is pretty much stock, other than a fuel pump, exhaust and tune. On pump I made 292whp with the infamous slight fall off at redline. Anyway, she did 12.4 @110 my very first run out this season (granny shifting to get a feel for the new gearbox). The next run out I bogged the launch (2.38 60ft ) and still went 13.000
Anyway, if there's nothing else to do this weekend I think I'll go out and try for my first 11 second pass on the stocker. And, about the gears.... They are nothing special at all. You still have to hit fifth in order to utilize the powerband. The only real difference with dragging these cars is that 5th gear has a smoother transition than the previous years. But, i guess 4 shifts in a 1/4 is four shifts nonetheless.

-Mikey

im rooting for you to hit 11s on stock turbo... im sure you can do it
yea i was thinking the same way about the 07 gears after driving couple of them,

oh yea about the 07 hardshifting ed told me that it knocks when you shift hard on the 07 and it will actually pull timing. thats prolly why you only ran 12.4

you mite want to check that out

07 STi feels like a luxury cars comparing from 04 STi huh?
hahah that show i felt

oh yea CONGRATS on the new car btw.. have fun with it
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Old 09-13-2007, 07:37 PM   #265
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I totally agree. Thats what i meant up top, the gears serve no real advantage at all.
And even with a larger turbo that would keep you in the powerband to redline in 4th, wouldnt the power be upped so that you have to shift into 5th anyway?
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Old 09-13-2007, 10:36 PM   #266
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im rooting for you to hit 11s on stock turbo... im sure you can do it
yea i was thinking the same way about the 07 gears after driving couple of them,

oh yea about the 07 hardshifting ed told me that it knocks when you shift hard on the 07 and it will actually pull timing. thats prolly why you only ran 12.4

you mite want to check that out

07 STi feels like a luxury cars comparing from 04 STi huh?
hahah that show i felt

oh yea CONGRATS on the new car btw.. have fun with it

Thanx man,

and yeah, slamming third = one crazy pause in power transition. Never caught knock on the logs, but i dont actually think i was driving hard at all when ever i was using the delta dash on my laptop. Im going to go check this out tomorrow. Did you run your 11.7 with shift hesitation???
I remember you saying something a while back.
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Old 09-14-2007, 01:39 AM   #267
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Thanx man,

and yeah, slamming third = one crazy pause in power transition. Never caught knock on the logs, but i dont actually think i was driving hard at all when ever i was using the delta dash on my laptop. Im going to go check this out tomorrow. Did you run your 11.7 with shift hesitation???
I remember you saying something a while back.

yea i ran 11.7 wit that shifting issue. actually all my track passes had this issue and finally 2 months ago cobb finally fixed it but version 1 accessport cant fix it only V2 can, we used OPENecu to fix it tho.. people say in the vid i was shifting fast but actaully im granny shifting thru the gears
the problem i had was boost issue perameter that between shift the car has see below 9psi if not it will cut the fuel and the boost, ed can explain it more
but we too did not see knock

crystal imprezav and ed finally fixed the problem but my car got rear ended b4i could take it to the track

ed is gonna come post here in a bit
and explain more.
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Old 09-14-2007, 02:24 AM   #268
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yea i ran 11.7 wit that shifting issue. actually all my track passes had this issue and finally 2 months ago cobb finally fixed it but version 1 accessport cant fix it only V2 can, we used OPENecu to fix it tho.. people say in the vid i was shifting fast but actaully im granny shifting thru the gears
the problem i had was boost issue perameter that between shift the car has see below 9psi if not it will cut the fuel and the boost, ed can explain it more
but we too did not see knock

crystal imprezav and ed finally fixed the problem but my car got rear ended b4i could take it to the track

ed is gonna come post here in a bit
and explain more.
You really can't call what you were doing "granny shifting"! You were actually shifting much faster than most people can shift at all.

The main issue is that in order to avoid the shift cut Sean was having to let completely off the throttle between gears. This closed the throttle plate enough to bring manifold pressure bellow 9psi . I was actually amazed how hard he could still shift with this limitation. Of course this meant that Sean only got one clean pass out of every 4-5 and he really had to concentrate on getting these clean perfect shifts to avoid the cut. He can definitely shift faster now that the issue has been resolved but more importantly he will be MUCH more consistent. Again... freaking amazing that he was able to accomplish this run before the shift cut was fixed!

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Old 09-14-2007, 02:29 AM   #269
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Thanx man,

and yeah, slamming third = one crazy pause in power transition. Never caught knock on the logs, but i dont actually think i was driving hard at all when ever i was using the delta dash on my laptop. Im going to go check this out tomorrow.
Be careful about how you look for knock in the 07's. They will almost never actually pull timing out of the logged dynamic advance value so it makes finding knock much more difficult. The only reliable way to look for knock with the 07 ECU is by actually comparing total timing advance from the log to the mapped timing values in the ECU. Any difference, sudden dips, etc signal that the ECU is pulling timing in response to knock. I think this functionality got some tuners in trouble when the 07's first came out. They ended up tuning them way too aggressively thinking that there is no knock present. Hence the initial hype about 07's making crazy power, etc.

BTW, if you feel a crazy pause in power after a shift, its 99% likely that its some pretty significant knock. This is even more pronounced in the 07's because after a knock event they don't actually give back all their timing. They just increase timing 1/2 a degree every couple hundred RPM or so until it finally gets back to the mapped values. This means that if you encounter knock on a hard shift you will most likely have significantly less advance through the entire gear.

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Old 09-14-2007, 02:48 AM   #270
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thanks ed..

revealing some of your tuning secrets hahaha
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thanks ed..

revealing some of your tuning secrets hahaha
meh... no real secrets, its all for the community
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seen your car is person! it is great. I was their the night you raced that black z28, some car man keep up the good work
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Old 09-14-2007, 03:20 AM   #273
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seen your car is person! it is great. I was their the night you raced that black z28, some car man keep up the good work
are u talking about black camaro z28 427 engine 560whp ? jeremy
that car be beating bikes on the freeway
that **** is fast man i was on my 91 and i was having problem driving my car

if thats the camaro ur talking dont even remind me hahaa i had a bad night
my driving SUCKED SOO BAD

but he recently lost to a GT35r turboed EVO9 the same EVO that raced me for cash and lost
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Old 09-14-2007, 03:28 AM   #274
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lets hear some launching secrets!!!

I couldnt really get it down and went to launch control to help me out. but would rather take some pointers and get back to my normal map.
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True, maybe its just the transition that is quicker as some say. Can't argue that the new gears make it a bit funner on the street. Either way it has been noted by some reputable tuners that 07's are consistantly making power easier than previous years, though not by a whole lot. Regardless, most people like to think that these cars improve over time (performance - not looks, ie 08). To each his own I guess.

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hahaha nah

im not hating on 07 STi. its jus that people coount out 04 05 06 sti b4 people started modding07 STi


i have many friends that owns 07 STi
and im current helping 2 07 STi to get where im at

hmm when u saying gears advantage... are you sure about that?

theres been couple with a modded 07 on stock turbo and they all gotten faster times shifting to 5th gear than letting it rev out to 4th to redline
read the threads of the fastest stock turbo 07 STi
they even said it them selves that they gotten faster time shifting it to 5th gear than leaving it to 4th gear

here read this

http://www.iwsti.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97674
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