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Old 04-25-2007, 05:57 AM   #1
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Default is 75,000 really THAT much?

Im sellin the scooby... its bluebooking for like 13,350, so i am asking less than that with 75000 miles and its got STi trim minus the wing, an up pipe and turboback, rota wheels, springs struts etc.

some dude is making a HUGE stink because of the mileage and im like "bro, for what youre getting its not bad at all.... 75k is NOTHING!" Then he is talking oh man its too bad you sold your turbo FMIC and gauges blah blah blah...

so am i going about this wrong?
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Old 04-25-2007, 06:47 AM   #2
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Trying to sell an car is like posting and ad that says "waste my time, please". Just be patient and eventually you'll get about 1 person who is seriously interested and reasonable for every 10 idiots who jerk you around.
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Old 04-25-2007, 06:51 AM   #3
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tell him to stop whinning and buy a new Toyota Yaris
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Old 04-25-2007, 06:52 AM   #4
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It depends on the year of the car. But I could tell you I've seen nice, modded WRXs with that kind of mileage go for a lot less than $13k lately.
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Old 04-25-2007, 08:01 AM   #5
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Im sellin the scooby... its bluebooking for like 13,350, so i am asking less than that with 75000 miles and its got STi trim minus the wing, an up pipe and turboback, rota wheels, springs struts etc.

some dude is making a HUGE stink because of the mileage and im like "bro, for what youre getting its not bad at all.... 75k is NOTHING!" Then he is talking oh man its too bad you sold your turbo FMIC and gauges blah blah blah...

so am i going about this wrong?
What year is your car? Overall condition? Ever been in an accident?

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Old 04-25-2007, 08:06 AM   #6
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Trying to sell an car is like posting and ad that says "waste my time, please". Just be patient and eventually you'll get about 1 person who is seriously interested and reasonable for every 10 idiots who jerk you around.
Also: Hi, Sam!
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Old 04-25-2007, 09:02 AM   #7
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Hold on to the car until YOU get what YOU want for it. That guy is just trying to save a buck. Tell him to move on if he's not willing to pay.
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Old 04-25-2007, 10:18 AM   #8
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Yeah, I was unprepared for the number of people who contact me for more information for my car and then return with a terrible offer.

"I'll give you 13k CASH."
"I'll trade you a lifted Wrangler plus $4000."
"I can give you $4000 up front and $500 a month."
"I need to ask my mom but I'm really interested."

Just wait patiently... I've got a couple people that are serious, one in particular.
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Old 04-25-2007, 10:18 AM   #9
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Oh, and yes, that is a lot. It's a 2004. Typical mileage would be under 50k. You have high mileage.

KBB in Good condition is $12,625. I'd trend lower due to the miles, though. Probably offer you $11k.
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Old 04-25-2007, 10:42 AM   #10
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I don't consider it alot of miles if the car was well taken care of. Especially if they were highway miles. Mine has 116,000 and is an 2002. Runs great, pulls strong and has been at Cobb Stage 2 since well before I bought it. The only thing that DOESN'T work is the clock (well, most of the time, sometimes it comes on for fun). When you think about it, it's only 23k miles a year average. I actually drive my car when I go on climbing/ski/vacation trips so I guess that just seems normal. I've never understood how people with an 02 can have 25k miles on their car. What is the point of having the car if you don't drive it. heh

My first 02 i bought new and put 40k miles on it the first year I had it. 10 trips out to Snowshoe alone will do that I guess. haha I guess I'm biased, I'm used to seeing/driving old Datsun Z's with 200,000+ miles and not being worse for wear (with approprate maintenance).

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Old 04-25-2007, 10:46 AM   #11
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I'd do a survey of autotrader and see what similiar cars are going for. The KBB's just a guide. What matters is how much people are willing to pay. Wonder what Carmax would give you for it? I sell all my trucks to Carmax. 3 hours and I walk out with a check. I think you should assume any mods hurt the value unless you find the one buyer that wants those mods.
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Old 04-25-2007, 11:57 AM   #12
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Hold on to the car until YOU get what YOU want for it. That guy is just trying to save a buck. Tell him to move on if he's not willing to pay.
I agree, the price of suby's lately has been allover the place, some have been amazing deals and others have been wtf would u pay so much. So definetly just hold out.
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Old 04-25-2007, 12:46 PM   #13
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I don't consider it alot of miles if the car was well taken care of. Especially if they were highway miles. Mine has 116,000 and is an 2002. Runs great, pulls strong and has been at Cobb Stage 2 since well before I bought it. The only thing that DOESN'T work is the clock (well, most of the time, sometimes it comes on for fun). When you think about it, it's only 23k miles a year average. I actually drive my car when I go on climbing/ski/vacation trips so I guess that just seems normal. I've never understood how people with an 02 can have 25k miles on their car. What is the point of having the car if you don't drive it. heh

My first 02 i bought new and put 40k miles on it the first year I had it. 10 trips out to Snowshoe alone will do that I guess. haha I guess I'm biased, I'm used to seeing/driving old Datsun Z's with 200,000+ miles and not being worse for wear (with approprate maintenance).

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Good for you.

Never say "mostly highway" again, please. Kthanks. Of course anything with a lot of miles will be "mostly highway." You might as well say "mostly road."

My 02 has 65k on it. I drive it all over, daily, take long trips in it, etc etc. 23k per year is HIGH mileage. Average is 15k.
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Old 04-25-2007, 12:47 PM   #14
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Oh, and yes, that is a lot. It's a 2004. Typical mileage would be under 50k. You have high mileage.

KBB in Good condition is $12,625. I'd trend lower due to the miles, though. Probably offer you $11k.
KBB told me 12,935, which is why i asked 13 will all the stuff thats on there...
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Old 04-25-2007, 12:54 PM   #15
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Typical mileage is 10-12k a year. More than 20k a year is a seriously dogged car. The thing is, the car may be bulletproof reliable for you but as soon as its new driver settles in, and has different subtle habits of shifting, steering, using the pedals, etc, things will start breaking.

And you've got a lot of mods on it...how to put this as tactfully and respectfully as possible? The people who inquire about your car in the first place are not likely to have chosen Princeton over Harvard, if you get my meaning. Unless they are looking for a certain type of project or race vehicle. In fact, I'd be careful who you sell it to...there is always the possibility you are going to have a buyer calling you back three months down the line, angry because he broke the **** and wanting to blame you.
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Old 04-25-2007, 12:54 PM   #16
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KBB told me 12,935, which is why i asked 13 will all the stuff thats on there...
I used my zip code, not yours. $300 difference. Meh.

Goodest of luck selling it!
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Old 04-25-2007, 12:55 PM   #17
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Selling a modded car cuts the interested audience in 1/2 or worse. Most people don't want modded cars so, you're then catering to a small audience of enthusiasts who know exactly how much it's all worth.

I think your mods (other than the wheels) mean you need to go DOWN in price, not up.

If I was selling the car, I wouldn't even mention the mods in the ad. People see that and more then 1/2 will stop looking immediately. Sell it as a stock car (as long as it passes emissions) and let buyer beware.
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Old 04-25-2007, 01:09 PM   #18
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75k is not high mileage IMO. I put more than that on my Saturn since I bought it in mid-04, plus about 10k on my Subaru, and I was out of the country for 6 last year.

I know I drive a lot, but I certainly don't think 75k is anything to cause concern. I'd be more inclined to buy an 04 with 75k vs an 02 with 50k. That goes for any car.
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Old 04-25-2007, 01:23 PM   #19
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I see Subaru's with 150-300k on them often. Heck 75k is still within the first 1/3 of the vehicles life.
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Old 04-25-2007, 01:31 PM   #20
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Good for you.

Never say "mostly highway" again, please. Kthanks. Of course anything with a lot of miles will be "mostly highway." You might as well say "mostly road."

My 02 has 65k on it. I drive it all over, daily, take long trips in it, etc etc. 23k per year is HIGH mileage. Average is 15k.
Yes good for me. Good for you smartass.

Well, no. I live in Richmond. The roads are crap. There is a BIG difference between communiting 20 miles back and forth to work around here and driving on the highway alot. I stand by the statement "mostly highway". Granted, anyone can say that about their car and there is no way to verify. But consider this, if you live in the fan of Richmond and drive, say, to Capital One at westcreek daily thats 19 miles each way. And the rodes until you get past Shortpump are complete crap.

Assuming you work 5 days a week that's 10k miles right there. What about larger metros (richmond is small)? 5k miles for EVERYTHING else you do the rest of the year? Seeing family, etc? Vacation? Driving because you like your car? I don't buy it.

And yes, it is very possible to not put "mostly highway miles" on a car. I owned a 83 Subaru DL back through high school and college that I got with 137k miles on it and personally got it up to 300k doing a heck of alot of city driving, far more than highway. Of course, I delivered pizza.

Bottom line, I agree you PAY less for a car with more mileage. I disagree that it's high mileage.
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Old 04-25-2007, 01:33 PM   #21
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75k is not high mileage IMO. I put more than that on my Saturn since I bought it in mid-04, plus about 10k on my Subaru, and I was out of the country for 6 last year.

I know I drive a lot, but I certainly don't think 75k is anything to cause concern. I'd be more inclined to buy an 04 with 75k vs an 02 with 50k. That goes for any car.
I agree completely.
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Old 04-25-2007, 01:34 PM   #22
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Well, no. I live in Richmond. The roads are crap. There is a BIG difference between communiting 20 miles back and forth to work around here and driving on the highway alot. I stand by the statement "mostly highway". Granted, anyone can say that about there car and there is no way to verify. But consider this, if you live in the fan of Richmond and drive, say, to Capital One at westcreek daily thats 19 miles each way. And the rodes until you get past Shortpump are complete crap.
Go drive in the spring in PA and then tell me roads in VA are crap.
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Old 04-25-2007, 01:35 PM   #23
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Typical mileage is 10-12k a year. More than 20k a year is a seriously dogged car.
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Old 04-25-2007, 01:35 PM   #24
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When you are marketing your car to others, it's not a question of whether you feel the mileage is high or not. Most people put about 12-15K miles on their cars each year (this is based on Edmunds, KBB, etc.). That means if this 2004 model year was driven according to average usage, it should have around 36-45K miles on it. Since it doesn't, that means that it's considered high mileage - regardless of anyone else's personal experience or sensitive feelings on the subject.

Since you are not selling the car to yourself, you have to keep in mind market considerations. For the general car market, mods decrease the value of the car. For the general car market, anything more than 15K miles a year = "high mileage" and therefore decreases the value of the car.

You can always find an enthusiast who finds value in mods, however. And you can always find buyers who don't mind a few more miles on a car (there appears to be a few in this thread). But in general, mods and more than 15K miles a year will decrease the car's value.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but it looks like you may need to come down a bit on your asking price. Either that, or target your sales to enthusiasts who wouldn't mind the mods.

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Either that, or target your sales to enthusiasts who wouldn't mind the mods.

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..and unfortunately, here, those are the buyers that need to ask their mom first...

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