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Old 12-11-2001, 05:00 PM   #1
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Default Borla Exhaust for WRX any good?

I'm just wondering because there is a group buy for the complete catback for $450 shipped. Is it worthwhile, or should I pay the extra for a Stromung. I would go Scoobysport but it is just too much.
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Old 12-11-2001, 06:53 PM   #2
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You can't go wrong with Borla. Besides with *most* if not all catbacks will make the same HP.
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Old 12-11-2001, 11:51 PM   #3
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dman918 & mitch808 - The Borla is only 2.5" diameter... basically if you're not going to be breaking 275-300 hp, then it'd be ok to go with.

Otherwise, we'd suggest finding a 3" cat-back like the Cobb or the ones that are made exclusively for us by Brullen.
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Old 12-11-2001, 11:55 PM   #4
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Thanks for setting it straight iON. But I think I will keep my 5Zigen over the Borla.
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Old 12-12-2001, 09:04 AM   #5
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Where is this GB? I didn't even know Borla made a WRX exhaust

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Old 12-12-2001, 10:26 AM   #6
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It's in the vendor for sale section.
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Old 12-12-2001, 10:34 AM   #7
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Thanks. I found it, but I have a hard time believing that sound clip on the Borla site is accurate...

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Old 12-12-2001, 10:36 AM   #8
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I know. I am interested in it because of that sound. And at $450 shipped, there is not a system in its price range...
What is the cheapest one can get a scoobysport, cobb tuning or stromung for?
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Old 12-12-2001, 10:55 AM   #9
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That's ridiculously cheap... and Borla makes good stuff. I'm not too fond of that tip, but hey, a man could deal

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Old 12-12-2001, 11:13 AM   #10
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borla = crap

while borla products may be the best you can do for american cars, it is FAR from the best for the foreign ones...go with hks, apexi, etc... that specialize in japanese exhausts.
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Old 12-12-2001, 11:18 AM   #11
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How are they crap? I've never heard bad things about them.
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Old 12-12-2001, 11:19 AM   #12
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I think its fugly, but the price is right.
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and i've never heard anything good....for american cars, sure, go ahead and buy away....but for japanese cars, why would you buy from a company that specializes in american cars??? it's like buying f*cking flowmasters....it's american crap as far as foreign car applications go
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Old 12-12-2001, 11:38 AM   #14
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Whaat? I shouldn't buy Borla because they're American? It doesn't matter that it's cheap and durable (and I agree, a little ugly ), but it's American so I should skip it?

Riiight...

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Old 12-12-2001, 11:47 AM   #15
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you need to stop twisting what i say...

i never said not to buy it because it's american made...i simply said, why buy a product from a company that specializes in american car products, as opposed to buying a product made by a company that specialized in japanese cars (hks, apexi, etc.)???

so you're saying, buy from a company that doesn't specialize in making products for our cars?

riiight...
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Old 12-12-2001, 11:51 AM   #16
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cat-back is a total waste of dough.... save your clams and get a turbo back.

just my worthless $.02
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Old 12-12-2001, 11:53 AM   #17
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There's nothing specialized about a Japanese car when it comes to exhaust. It's just a pipe that runs out to the bumper, and hopefully has as few twists and turns as possible. Fundamentally the same as anything from a Camaro to a Cavalier (blech).

Are you saying the Scoobysport or Cobb exhausts are POS's too?

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Old 12-12-2001, 01:07 PM   #18
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Quote:
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borla = crap

while borla products may be the best you can do for american cars, it is FAR from the best for the foreign ones...go with hks, apexi, etc... that specialize in japanese exhausts.
Do you even have a car?


I've run Borla on 2 of my cars before, both japanese and the sound was beautiful. The hp gains were on par with anything jdm and the quality was impeccable.
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Old 12-12-2001, 01:16 PM   #19
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and i've never heard anything good....for american cars, sure, go ahead and buy away....but for japanese cars, why would you buy from a company that specializes in american cars??? it's like buying f*cking flowmasters....it's american crap as far as foreign car applications go

GHEY! :monkey:
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Old 12-12-2001, 01:17 PM   #20
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hypa: yes i have a car you pr|ck

tim: did i say scoobysport & cobb were crap? i don't think so...maybe you're having trouble reading...i didn't say that american products were crap (well, except their cars) all i said is that it makes more sense to buy an exhaust from a company that specializes in making parts for your car...both of which scoobysport (it's even in the name) and cobb (that's all they've got on their site) do....

in my opion, borla and flowmaster both ride in the same category - sh|tty american car products....if you have an american car, go ahead and buy them - that's what they specialize in....but, if you have a japanese car, why not buy from a company that has a history of making exhausts for your specific car, instead of buying an exhaust from a company that specializes in american car products....
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Old 12-12-2001, 01:17 PM   #21
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GHEY! :monkey:
fvck you:monkey: i'm entitled to my opinion...there is no need to put me down because of it:monkey:
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Old 12-12-2001, 01:33 PM   #22
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I am also a lover of all things JDM, but borla stuff aint bad at all. maybe a little un-fashionable. But very functional. Their XR1 cans especially are very worthy exhausts.

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Old 12-12-2001, 01:45 PM   #23
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Something else to consider is the TurboXS muffler. If you’re not increasing the size of the pipe to 3 in. than just the muffler replacement is something to consider. I believe the reason they are offering the muffler only is that there was very little to gain by replacing the mid-pipe. The mid-pipe between the cat and the muffler is straight through with a resonator in it. The price is $350 and it looks good.
As far as performance goes there is no doubt that a turbo back is the way to go but if you have tough emission control in your state or other considerations than just a muffler or cat back is still an improvement over stock while keeping your cats. Keep in mind that neither of these options will improve performance without modifying the ECU.
Just my $.02
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Old 12-12-2001, 01:49 PM   #24
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Parts are parts they are not to be judged on their origin. Saying borla sucks is almost like the whole r|icer vs american muscle debate...

Borla has made quality import products for years. Not just for the impreza which is a new product line for them, but for acura, honda, toyota, etc... What about all the other american companies that make great products. You might as well say turboxs sucks, cobb sucks, and more. NOT TRUE.

Borla has more money for R&D than many japanese manufacturers. With slightly larger piping and if they came out sooner, I would have bought their product.
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Old 12-12-2001, 02:17 PM   #25
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Actually out of all the muffler manufacturers in the US, I like Borla the best. Their products are actually very good and sound great. their cat back isn't the nicest one out there but at the price it's hard to beat as others have mentioned. It is a full stainless system. Cheapest Japanese all stainless one is the kakimoto GT1OZ or the Blitz Nur Spec V and they are both slightly more than the Borla. Greddy system will only be half stainless when released. HKS one is a bit more I think.
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