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Old 04-08-2007, 04:01 PM   #1
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Found some decent 04 - 05 17" Impreza wheels, but will they clear 4 pot brakes on a GC?

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Old 04-08-2007, 04:33 PM   #2
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Are they 17x7, offset 53? Then yes, 100% sure.

They look like JDM Legacy B4 wheels

EDIT: I'm pretty sure that almost any 17" wheel with Subaru offset clears 4-pots actually...it's the Brembos that are harder to clear.

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Old 04-08-2007, 09:30 PM   #3
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Are they 17x7, offset 53? Then yes, 100% sure.

They look like JDM Legacy B4 wheels

EDIT: I'm pretty sure that almost any 17" wheel with Subaru offset clears 4-pots actually...it's the Brembos that are harder to clear.
It isn't the wheel size and/or offset which are the determining factor in whether or not the wheel clears 4-pot brakes, but the design of the rear of the spoke. The easiest thing for you to do is find someone with 4-pots to try the wheels on their car. You'll know for certain whether or not it will clear the 4-pots.

You could also try Tirerack's online wheel guide against a MY07 WRX since they have 4-pots. That only works if the wheel you're interested in is carried by Tirerack.

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Old 04-08-2007, 09:50 PM   #4
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Yeah it's kinda silly to say all wheels with a certain offset will clear 100% of the time.
I said a 17" wheel with Subaru offset would clear 4-pots. And by "Subaru offset" I mean the "usual" 43-53 range. I haven't seen a 17" wheel within that offset range that doesn't clear 4-pots....have you? Heck, even 16x7" wheels with Subaru offset clear the 4-pots. So maybe the criteria should be more like:

1) At least 16" in diameter
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2) At least 7" in width
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3) "Subaru offset" ---> for lack of a better term here?

That should cover enough of a range of wheels for the OP's needs...no? I think so. Of course, there are always the 15" rally wheels that will clear the 4-pots too...but that is a different story

Sorry if you guys have a problem with my logic, but it seems to me that A LOT of 17x7" wheels clear 4-pots.
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Old 04-08-2007, 11:54 PM   #5
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Fair enough aspect...but I haven't seen any wheels like you describe personally. Of course, I haven't seen EVERY wheel out there though...yet!

Back to the original point of this thread...I'm sure the wheels pictured will clear, if they are 17x7 and ET53 like the JDM B4 Legacy wheels they resemble.
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Old 04-09-2007, 12:05 AM   #6
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Penphoe's point is that you could easily have a wheel that meets your standards that will collide with the calipers. It all depends on wheel design..If you had a 7" wheel with spokes that were lined up with the wheel hub, and had like 2.5 inches of lip, they wouldn't work on any brakes at all. Increased offset only infers, not guarantees, increased caliper clearance.

YEP. For example, the old-skool 17" Speedline Super Tourismo wheel - a 17" rally wheel specifically designed for the Impreza will NOT clear the 4-pot brakes.
http://www.subarureview.com/showreview.php?id=288 - click to see a picture of the wheel

Unfortunately, Mike Shield's SPDUSA site no longer exists so I can't link to his site.

James - if we were to apply that criteria to any wheel, then we wouldn't have this issue come up! We'd be able to find a 16" steel wheel with the proper offset which would clear the 4-pots! In any case, the rim width is not indicitive of whether or not the wheel will clear the 4-pot. The 5-spoke MY98-99 RS wheels (which were on the V4/5 WRX STi) are 16x6.5" wheels that clear the 4-pots. Also, following your crieteria my old set of 15" Speeline 2118 wheels wouldn't "fit" either! In reality, they DO clear the 4-pots, however they barely clear the MY02+ WRX brakes. It all had to do with the inside spoke design. The 4-pots had enough of a "notch" on the outside corner that they cleared the spokes on the 2118's. The stock WRX 2-pot calipers were more square at the corner so they didn't clear (or in some cases, barely cleared). What did most people do? They ended up grinding a bit off of the corner of the 2-pot caliper.

In any case, if you go to the Wheels and Tires section of the board, there's an extensive list of wheels with stats like offset, rim width, bolt pattern, along with what type of brakes they will clear.

clsmooth - find out what the exact model is of that wheel, and search in the Tires and Wheels section. If nothing comes up, then ask to see if anyone else knows if they do clear or not.

Good luck!

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Old 04-09-2007, 02:52 AM   #7
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those are kinda cool!
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Old 04-09-2007, 05:24 AM   #8
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Thanks for the great info guys!
Here's what I was able to find out so far:

Specs:
Brand New Made to Factory Specifications
Exceeds DOT, TUV, JWL, & VIA standards
Structure: 1 Peice LP Cast Aluminum Alloy
Size: 17x7.5"
Bolt Pattern: 5x100mm
Finish: Painted Factory Silver w/ Clearcoat
Center caps & lugs are not included. Uses original factory lugs & caps.

Fitments:
1990-2006 Subaru Legacy (all models)
1993-2006 Subaru Impreza & WRX (except STI models)
2003-2006 Subaru Baja (all models)
1998-2006 Subaru Forester (all models)

I'm gonna call em tomorrow to find out more if I can.

Not all Subaru wheels clear the 4 pots I found. I previous bought a set of those 16x7 polished Forester wheels from the same place and they didn't clear the 4 pots, but my 16x7 RS rims do. From what I found out, the only 16's that clear 4 pots are the 98 - 01 RS rims, correct? When I have my wheel off, the 4 pot doesn't really stick out passed the top hat of the rotor all that much.

I'm curious because all the other information I found states that anything else and you'll need 17's to clear, but that might be a generality. I just don't feel like buying another set of rims that don't fit and I'm specifically looking for another Subaru rim.

Here's a pic on its side, you can see the curve of the spokes better

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Old 04-09-2007, 01:26 PM   #9
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I'm gonna call em tomorrow to find out more if I can.
This answers your own question. 2006 WRX has 4-pots. If it fits an '06 WRX, it will clear your 4-pots.

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Ya, I did call them today and the guy I spoke with didn't have the offset specs in front of him, but he said the same thing as in a Subaru offset (however much that helps). He wasn't too sure about it clearing the 4 pots either, but I mentioned how it lists that it clears an 06 WRX. He replied that they haven't had an issue fitting them on any 06. He knew for sure it doesn't clear the STi Brembo's. Does this help anyone?
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Like I said above clsmooth...If they fit on an '06 WRX, they WILL clear 4-pots. The '06 WRX has the same 4-pots.
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Most wheels have the offset stamped on the inside face of the wheel - usually on a spoke or by the hub. If they have a set in stock, they should be able to read it right off of the wheel.

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Most wheels have the offset stamped on the inside face of the wheel - usually on a spoke or by the hub. If they have a set in stock, they should be able to read it right off of the wheel!
Haha, yeah...nice job of the salesman not knowing the offset of the wheels he is trying to sell
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Like I said above clsmooth...If they fit on an '06 WRX, they WILL clear 4-pots. The '06 WRX has the same 4-pots.
Ya, if that posting's right, then there shouldn't be a problem!
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Most wheels have the offset stamped on the inside face of the wheel - usually on a spoke or by the hub. If they have a set in stock, they should be able to read it right off of the wheel.

Good luck!

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He has em in stock in his 'other' warehouse and couldn't check
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Haha, yeah...nice job of the salesman not knowing the offset of the wheels he is trying to sell
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there are LOTS of 16" (AND 15") wheels that clear the 4 pots

FXT, compomotive 16s, etc....
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