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Old 04-08-2007, 10:21 PM   #1
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I have an 06 wrx and a couple of weeks ago after just getting it back from a "one time warranty" for a broken 3rd gear, i blew my main shaft, 1,2,3 gear. I know how to drive stick, im not an idiot. They will not warrantee it, if anybody else has had these kind of problems and could tell me what their dealer did for them, it would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Old 04-08-2007, 10:41 PM   #2
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I have an 06 wrx and a couple of weeks ago after just getting it back from a "one time warranty" for a broken 3rd gear, i blew my main shaft, 1,2,3 gear. I know how to drive stick, im not an idiot. They will not warrantee it, if anybody else has had these kind of problems and could tell me what their dealer did for them, it would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Hey guys... just got back from the track. My best friend ran a 13.6 his first run he ever raced at a drag track. First of all, I'm suprised for his time let alone his FIRST TIME. Congrats... however his car had some issues on the 3rd run with the launch and something is messed up with his trans.
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trap speed was 98 mph, reaction time was .775 not great, but okay for first idk how to put the pic of the slip on here, anybody wanna tell me? and i'll post it. thanks.
So you were drag racing and you damaged your 3rd gear. I'm assuming that's what led you to the repair a couple of weeks ago. In that case, you were lucky that you were goodwilled the repair. I'm assuming with the first repair you had to sign a statement to the effect that it was a one-time goodwill repair and that any similar failures wouldn't be covered. There's probably no getting around that, since you've already established a history of racing and/or abuse. According to the title of your friend's post, you're also running a Stage 1, so you're pushing some extra power through there--modifications that could have a bearing on transmission damage.

Simply put, your warranty states that damage from racing/abuse/modifications is not covered under warranty. What were you doing when the damage occurred this most recent time? I guess it could be possible that the dealership didn't rebuild the tranny properly, but any poor workmanship issues would likely have been apparent before two weeks time.
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Old 04-08-2007, 10:47 PM   #3
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im not an idiot
Well... not to be a dick, but if you weren't an idiot you wouldn't have dragged your car.

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Old 04-08-2007, 10:49 PM   #4
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Got to pay, if you want to play... AWD+Clutchdumps= $$$
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Old 04-09-2007, 09:02 AM   #7
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What dealer did your car the first time and which one is refusing it now?
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Old 04-09-2007, 10:09 AM   #8
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I blew 3rd gear hitting third at the track. But the main shaft shouldnt have gone. It was a chain reaction. and i neverrr dump my clutch. Even if racing at the track had to do with the damage to my tranni, The dealer doesnt know that. They advertise a rally car. I dont drive it as hard as i drove my 93 volvo. i should not be having these tranni problems. Bottom line.
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and the most recent time this happend, it was only a week after i got my car back for the 3rd gear. I was pulling out onto a highway and was stuck in the exit of mcdonalds with a dead car.
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Guys, dont stick up for SOA. The wrx 5 speed is known to be fragile. I would call the BBB and or state attorney general if SOA used the abuse card on me. It's well known SOA abuses their so called warranty and has ****ed many people over. If SOA couldnt use the abuse card and get away with it, maybe we would have a stronger tranny in the first place guys.
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Old 04-09-2007, 10:26 AM   #11
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Are you really suggesting that SOA should be obligated to warranty a car that has been tracked? I've got no love for the 5speed, but I know better than to drag a car, then expect warranty work.
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I blew 3rd gear hitting third at the track. But the main shaft shouldnt have gone. It was a chain reaction. and i neverrr dump my clutch. Even if racing at the track had to do with the damage to my tranni, The dealer doesnt know that. They advertise a rally car. I dont drive it as hard as i drove my 93 volvo. i should not be having these tranni problems. Bottom line.
who did the work?
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Mikey you have to remember that the ones who call people out for driving a sports car hard are the ones who either 1. No longer have a Subaru or 2. Drive theirs without ever hitting boost with Mrs Daisy in the backseat. Now in the same breath the warranty states that anything involving a speed contest will void the warranty. If people don't want to get called on it then don't post timeslips or brag about racing on a public forum. Good luck with the SOA and getting your tranny fixed.
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Old 04-09-2007, 10:32 AM   #14
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Guys, dont stick up for SOA. The wrx 5 speed is known to be fragile. I would call the BBB and or state attorney general if SOA used the abuse card on me. It's well known SOA abuses their so called warranty and has ****ed many people over. If SOA couldnt use the abuse card and get away with it, maybe we would have a stronger tranny in the first place guys.
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I have an 06 wrx and a couple of weeks ago after just getting it back from a "one time warranty" for a broken 3rd gear, i blew my main shaft, 1,2,3 gear. I know how to drive stick, im not an idiot. They will not warrantee it, if anybody else has had these kind of problems and could tell me what their dealer did for them, it would be appreciated. Thanks.
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So you were drag racing and you damaged your 3rd gear. I'm assuming that's what led you to the repair a couple of weeks ago. In that case, you were lucky that you were goodwilled the repair. I'm assuming with the first repair you had to sign a statement to the effect that it was a one-time goodwill repair and that any similar failures wouldn't be covered. There's probably no getting around that, since you've already established a history of racing and/or abuse. According to the title of your friend's post, you're also running a Stage 1, so you're pushing some extra power through there--modifications that could have a bearing on transmission damage.

Simply put, your warranty states that damage from racing/abuse/modifications is not covered under warranty. What were you doing when the damage occurred this most recent time? I guess it could be possible that the dealership didn't rebuild the tranny properly, but any poor workmanship issues would likely have been apparent before two weeks time.
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I blew 3rd gear hitting third at the track. But the main shaft shouldnt have gone. It was a chain reaction. and i neverrr dump my clutch. Even if racing at the track had to do with the damage to my tranni, The dealer doesnt know that. They advertise a rally car. I dont drive it as hard as i drove my 93 volvo. i should not be having these tranni problems. Bottom line.
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and the most recent time this happend, it was only a week after i got my car back for the 3rd gear. I was pulling out onto a highway and was stuck in the exit of mcdonalds with a dead car.
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I don't understand any of this... I've still got the stock clutch and tranny in my 2003... stg 1+some goodies with 37k+ miles. PLUS.... I didn't even know how to drive stick when I bought her. So what's your excuse again... oh wait.. you didn't have an excuse... we had to catch you leaving your track day out of the whole story. It's funny how retarded people are sometimes... you think we will just take your word for it... like that shop did when they fixed your tranny the first time. If I were you... I'd Sell your Subaru... your not worthy dude...
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I blew 3rd gear hitting third at the track. But the main shaft shouldnt have gone. It was a chain reaction. and i neverrr dump my clutch. Even if racing at the track had to do with the damage to my tranni, The dealer doesnt know that. They advertise a rally car. I dont drive it as hard as i drove my 93 volvo. i should not be having these tranni problems. Bottom line.
Is your 93 Volvo AWD? I'm not going to go into depth with this because it's been stated elsewhere in this forum ad nauseum, but you cannot drive an AWD car the same was you drive a 2WD.

The dealer MIGHT not know you were racing; dealership and SOA employees read these boards too, and your posting about your track times and breaking your gear could very well have clued them in. Even if they didn't know you were racing, they might have suspected and the damage pattern inside the transmission would tell the story. Tranny damage due to a defect often loks different than damge due to abuse. They obviously had cause to suspect you the first time.

As far as advertising goes, they do not advertise a rally car. They advertise a sporty car that has a rally heritage, meaning that lessons learned and technology developed on the rally course have trickled down to benefit the rest of the breed. What other examples do we have of advertising? Let's see: Jeeps that run under water, the Ford Edge which can drive on two wheels on the sides of buildings, Honda Civics that can jump over rooftops, Ford F150s that can lift a Peterbilt, etc. etc. etc. Oh, and Chevy and John Mellencamp want you to know that this is our country.

In other words, take advertising with a grain of salt. When it comes down to it, it's the warranty CONTRACT that matters, and yes it is a contract. SOA agrees to repair manufacturer defects as long as you maintain the car, don't modify it, don't race it, and don't abuse it. If you fail to do those things, they have no obligation to repair the car unless they're doing it out of goodwill to maintain customer satisfaction. They've already done that for you, so now you're on your own. Your only hope is if the transmission was rebuilt improperly.
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Old 04-09-2007, 01:10 PM   #18
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I have an 06 wrx and a couple of weeks ago after just getting it back from a "one time warranty" for a broken 3rd gear, i blew my main shaft, 1,2,3 gear. I know how to drive stick, im not an idiot. They will not warrantee it, if anybody else has had these kind of problems and could tell me what their dealer did for them, it would be appreciated. Thanks.
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I blew 3rd gear hitting third at the track. But the main shaft shouldnt have gone. It was a chain reaction. and i neverrr dump my clutch. Even if racing at the track had to do with the damage to my tranni, The dealer doesnt know that. They advertise a rally car. I dont drive it as hard as i drove my 93 volvo. i should not be having these tranni problems. Bottom line.
What kind of idiot thinks they're entitled to a warranty after they've tracked the car? You blew 3rd gear DRAG RACING. Have you bothered reading any other threads with guys blowing gears doing the exact same thing? You still have yet to tell us where you had the work done. I've put a couple of your statements in bold so they can be better analyzed:

First: Sure, anyone can press in a clutch and throw some gears around. But have you ever driven a high horsepower AWD car before? It's a different vehicle entirely, and noobs tend to break transmissions. This has been around since the first AWD turbo DSMs dropped here in the states, we're just carrying on the tradition. Shift and drive like an idiot, you'll break something. There are plenty of guys on here (myself included) who have been driving modified cars on the stock trans in all sorts of events (drag racing, rallycrossing, HPDE, Pro Rally) and have yet to frag a gearset. It's all in the skill level.

Second: If it was your track racing (and it was) that blew the gearset then why should Subaru have to cover YOUR screwup? You abused it, they don't cover drag racing under the warranty. They're not your sponsor or your crew chief. And the dealership can tell if a car has been abused. How many miles do you have on the car? Who did the work? Now you just sound like one of those ignorant children who try to hide behind a warranty when they screw up but don't have the coin to cover it. You pay to play, grow a pair and deal with it.

Third: Sure, they put the rally cars in their ads. And the stock car shares two things with the rally car. The frame and 4 wheels. That's it. Doesn't mean you can enter one in a WRC round and not break anything. Also, if it's a rally car, what are you doing drag racing it?

Finally: It's not surprising that you're having these transmission problems. Odds are you keep doing what you're doing and you'll be having more of them until you either A: get a different gearset or B: stop driving like an idiot.

You are just like every other person that comes on here complaining that your transmission isn't getting covered under warranty, but conveniently forgetting that you were drag racing the car when it happened or shortly before. Grow up.

Bottom line: It's YOUR fault.
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Guys, dont stick up for SOA. The wrx 5 speed is known to be fragile. I would call the BBB and or state attorney general if SOA used the abuse card on me. It's well known SOA abuses their so called warranty and has ****ed many people over. If SOA couldnt use the abuse card and get away with it, maybe we would have a stronger tranny in the first place guys.



Step away from the keyboard and stop giving stupid advice. Guess what? The vast majority of the WRX owners out there (and the people on here are a minority) are still running around on their stock transmission without a problem. There are many members on here who have done racing events and not broken transmissions, even with modified cars. Sure, there are broken transmisisons here and there, and the majority of them that post on here complaining about them are the same ones who've been posting about their drag racing/modding exploits and suddenly stop posting when someone brings up their post history OR get all butthurt and start going back and editing posts to try and cover it up. We're big on fraud around here

And suppose the OP was dumb enough to take your advice? A little bit of research and SOA finds out that he blew it at the track? It only reinforces their case AND could put the OP in a possible fraud suit if he lied about what happened. Great thinking Einstein

Stick to giving advice on things you have a clue about.
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Ill admit I was beating the bag out of my old 04 wrx when 2nd gear blew.

But when it happened I picked up the phone ordered the gears and had the dealership put them in. I knew It was my fault. I bought the ra gears 1-4 and stock wrx 5th and new everything. I think it was around $4500-5000
with the new clutch and flywheel installed. I wasn't gonna do the whole warranty thing when it was my fault.
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the repair for the 3rd gear? subaru did, and as i got it back that week it broke again
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I come to you guys for advice, and you come back at me by calling me an idiot? and the gears on the stock wrx's ARE weak. makes me proud to own a subaru. And yes i have driven a high horsepower awd car. This is the only car i've ever had transmission problems in. I was going to pay for the broken gears anyways. I just checked in to see if it was the right way to go. Thats it for me on this thread.

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What kind of idiot thinks they're entitled to a warranty after they've tracked the car? You blew 3rd gear DRAG RACING. Have you bothered reading any other threads with guys blowing gears doing the exact same thing? You still have yet to tell us where you had the work done. I've put a couple of your statements in bold so they can be better analyzed:

First: Sure, anyone can press in a clutch and throw some gears around. But have you ever driven a high horsepower AWD car before? It's a different vehicle entirely, and noobs tend to break transmissions. This has been around since the first AWD turbo DSMs dropped here in the states, we're just carrying on the tradition. Shift and drive like an idiot, you'll break something. There are plenty of guys on here (myself included) who have been driving modified cars on the stock trans in all sorts of events (drag racing, rallycrossing, HPDE, Pro Rally) and have yet to frag a gearset. It's all in the skill level.

Second: If it was your track racing (and it was) that blew the gearset then why should Subaru have to cover YOUR screwup? You abused it, they don't cover drag racing under the warranty. They're not your sponsor or your crew chief. And the dealership can tell if a car has been abused. How many miles do you have on the car? Who did the work? Now you just sound like one of those ignorant children who try to hide behind a warranty when they screw up but don't have the coin to cover it. You pay to play, grow a pair and deal with it.

Third: Sure, they put the rally cars in their ads. And the stock car shares two things with the rally car. The frame and 4 wheels. That's it. Doesn't mean you can enter one in a WRC round and not break anything. Also, if it's a rally car, what are you doing drag racing it?

Finally: It's not surprising that you're having these transmission problems. Odds are you keep doing what you're doing and you'll be having more of them until you either A: get a different gearset or B: stop driving like an idiot.

You are just like every other person that comes on here complaining that your transmission isn't getting covered under warranty, but conveniently forgetting that you were drag racing the car when it happened or shortly before. Grow up.

Bottom line: It's YOUR fault.
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I have an 06 wrx and a couple of weeks ago after just getting it back from a "one time warranty" for a broken 3rd gear, i blew my main shaft, 1,2,3 gear. I know how to drive stick, im not an idiot. They will not warrantee it, if anybody else has had these kind of problems and could tell me what their dealer did for them, it would be appreciated. Thanks.
Do you see me complaining? all i wanted to know is what the standard procedure was.
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Step away from the keyboard and stop giving stupid advice. Guess what? The vast majority of the WRX owners out there (and the people on here are a minority) are still running around on their stock transmission without a problem. There are many members on here who have done racing events and not broken transmissions, even with modified cars. Sure, there are broken transmisisons here and there, and the majority of them that post on here complaining about them are the same ones who've been posting about their drag racing/modding exploits and suddenly stop posting when someone brings up their post history OR get all butthurt and start going back and editing posts to try and cover it up. We're big on fraud around here

And suppose the OP was dumb enough to take your advice? A little bit of research and SOA finds out that he blew it at the track? It only reinforces their case AND could put the OP in a possible fraud suit if he lied about what happened. Great thinking Einstein

Stick to giving advice on things you have a clue about.
There is something called burden of proof. Tell me how SOA can tell if you were drag racing (bs) and i'll tell you something about that possibly being illegal. I know a couple of things you might not once working as a mechanic at a honda dealer. SOA has according to my short time being here ****ed over a few people with legit warrenty claims. We can at least agree on that. Tell me how and where he has to explain how it broke and I'll throw you some more so called nonsense.
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the repair for the 3rd gear? subaru did, and as i got it back that week it broke again
I think he's referring to what dealership did the work?


And yes, we're calling you an idiot. You're complaining that you bought a "rally car" and you're out drag racing it and wondering how you broke it and getting mad because Subaru isn't going to warranty the work. The goodwill they did wasn't a warranty fix. It was just that, a goodwill fix.
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