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Old 04-10-2007, 12:55 PM   #1
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Blue run is a stock '07 STI for comparison.

Green is the car on 93 octane tuned.

Red is the car on race gas tuned.

Mods: P&L Tumbler deletes, P&L 780cc fuel system and rails, K&N Typhoon, GM boost solenoid, TurboXS downpipe mated to our custom cat-back exhaust, Walbro fuel pump. Stock intercooler, but an upgraded Cusco twin-disc clutch to handle the torque (the stock clutch completely slipped on race gas).

Very happy with the way the car turned out, and since this car is going to be run in the Redline Time attack, the AFR's are SUPER conservative (at least for me heh).

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Old 04-10-2007, 01:27 PM   #2
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Thats some HUGE torque versus hp!
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Old 04-10-2007, 01:29 PM   #3
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Damn, the race gas map is crazy!!! What octane???
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Old 04-10-2007, 01:50 PM   #4
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Damn, the race gas map is crazy!!! What octane???
Only the best, C-16!

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Old 04-10-2007, 01:56 PM   #5
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looks killer jorge great job!
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Old 04-10-2007, 01:56 PM   #6
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Would you happen to have a larger graph?
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Old 04-10-2007, 02:23 PM   #7
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Would you happen to have a larger graph?
Sure, it's 5.8MB though.

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Old 04-10-2007, 07:13 PM   #8
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WTF? you weld the wastegate shut?
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Old 04-10-2007, 09:51 PM   #9
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nice work again
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Old 04-10-2007, 09:53 PM   #10
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wow... my buddy had his cobb stage 2 rex done at your shop. i think i might head out there for my next upgrade!
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Old 04-10-2007, 10:21 PM   #11
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Jorge,

Did it really run that lean on the stock map? It almost looks too flat-lined, like maybe the sensor was off.
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Old 04-10-2007, 10:49 PM   #12
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Jorge,

Did it really run that lean on the stock map? It almost looks too flat-lined, like maybe the sensor was off.
Lean? The stock map is so rich it pegged the sensor.
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Old 04-10-2007, 11:41 PM   #13
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only a differnce of about 200 WTQ at 3500 RPM very impressive .
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Old 04-10-2007, 11:43 PM   #14
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Lean? The stock map is so rich it pegged the sensor.

perhaps he meant before it dropped to 10:1+
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Old 04-11-2007, 12:59 AM   #15
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Lean? The stock map is so rich it pegged the sensor.
Heh, heh. 'Scuse me, I should have been more specific: I'm referring to the point up to 3K rpm. After that, it obviously becomes a soot bomb.

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Old 04-11-2007, 01:58 AM   #16
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Heh, heh. 'Scuse me, I should have been more specific: I'm referring to the point up to 3K rpm. After that, it obviously becomes a soot bomb.
Yep... welcome to Subaru's method of "saving fuel"...

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Old 04-11-2007, 12:20 PM   #17
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just waiting for #'s from a stg2 2.5L wrx!
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Old 04-11-2007, 12:40 PM   #18
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looks good for a daily driver....

if you redline your shifts and land at 4500rpm, you gained maybe 50hp and 75ft/lbs where you shift?

I don't get how peak numbers at 3500rpms can help u at the dragstrip
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Old 04-11-2007, 01:37 PM   #19
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Who said anything about the dragstrip?
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Old 04-11-2007, 02:00 PM   #20
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Peak at 3500 sure does help around a race track though, like it's setup for. At 4500 it looks more like 125+ ft/lbs anyway.

BTW great results Jorge!
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Old 04-11-2007, 02:49 PM   #21
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Yep... welcome to Subaru's method of "saving fuel"...
Wow...are people experiencing mid-range det. with this OEM map, as was the case with the early O4's before the reflash?
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Old 04-11-2007, 02:53 PM   #22
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Wow...are people experiencing mid-range det. with this OEM map, as was the case with the early O4's before the reflash?
Yep, just take a GOOD look at his factory plot. Look how power spikes up after it enrichens. It's low in the beginning region because it's already learned to pull out significant amounts of timing.

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Old 04-11-2007, 04:45 PM   #23
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^^OK. 2.9-3K, I see it now that you pointed it out. Amazing. Folks on 91 oct had better be careful in the summer heat with that map...
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Old 04-11-2007, 05:24 PM   #24
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yes this isn't the first 07 i've seen with AFR's @ 14.7 well into boost/TQ either....
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Old 04-11-2007, 07:07 PM   #25
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Subaru really F'd up the tune on the MY07s out of the factory. Lots of threads on it here and on iwsti. Without conclusive evidence yet, I'm guessing it was all in the name of emissions and fuel economy. Why they tried to do this to an all-out sports car baffles me.

I'll be buying an AP soon...

Jorge, those results are simply amazing. MY old 2004 made 420 lb/ft at the wheels on the same dyno with 100 oct and 22-23 psi using a TD06H-20G with 8cm^2 turbine housing and no cats, FMIC, EL header, etc, etc.
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