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Old 12-12-2001, 10:47 AM   #1
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Is there any reason not to use 9007 100/80W Xenon bulbs in a WRX?

Will they destroy the wiring?

Are they too bright for stree use?

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Old 12-12-2001, 03:40 PM   #2
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I have used Xenon-charged Blue-White 100W/80W bulbs for 3 months without any problems. I am not getting flashed inordinately from passing drivers, therefore I assume they're not too bright for the street. However, I think Super-Whites might be somewhat brighter than mine . I also added 70W Xenon-charged Blue/Whites to my fogs and love 'em.
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Old 12-13-2001, 04:37 PM   #3
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new to the lights thing and haven't really searched but figured I'd ask since I'm here. The Xenon bulbs are just replacements for stock or used for a HID kit ? Also superspd8 you say you "added" the 70W bulbs to your fogs, does that mean replaced ? How much are the 70W ? Sorry for my ignorance.

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Old 12-13-2001, 05:30 PM   #4
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I put in the 100/80 super White (Korean) bulbs yesterday.

They miserable bulbas are comming out tomorrow. I would change them now except they are too hot to touch. Fortunately they were only 18.50 a pair plus $5.00 shipping.

It is like driving without lights. They are dim. The color is terrible to drive with. They are not like the Xenon lights in our old Acura TL or new Acura CL.

The blue coating may look cool to others. They look invisible to the driver. I bought lights to see with - not look cool. These bulbs are as stupid as putting smoke covers over your headlights to look cool.

When they say off-road use, what they really mean is "Foe Display Use Only - do not drive with them".

Ugh - what an idiot I was to buy them, thinking that 100/80 would be brighter than 55/45 (or whatever the stock bulb is).

You are liable to kill a pedestrain with these peices of junk.
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Old 12-13-2001, 08:54 PM   #5
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You will find that with most aftermarket lights, i have yet to see a aftermarket light bulb that is brighter to the driver! i'm going to go HID! that will turn night into day! it is expesive but i need my light.
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Old 12-14-2001, 01:44 AM   #6
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Oh contrare, Elite 421. My replacement bulbs are easily brighter to my eye. I have not measured actual distances but with the 100W/80W in high beam, I can see MUCH farther down the road (at least the long line of lane dividers seems to extend forever). I also like the look of the bulbs when viewing the car. However, many of the alleged "High Output" bulbs are just rip-offs, and I think that you get what you pay for (don't buy from Wal-mart or local auto parts shop).

My bulbs cost $90.00, delivered, from EuroLights.com, and although I had some problems communicating with this company through email (no phone number of company on receipt or website) I have been very happy with my purchase. I admit these are not 130W Cibies, but I did not purchase them for night rallying, but only for some extra lumens at highway speeds.

BTW, I have installed "Xenon-charged" Blue/white 100W/80W in the mains and "Xenon-charged" Blue/white 70W H3 bulbs in place of the fogs. Please refer to www.northursalia.com for detailed instructions on foglamp replacement.

In my humble opinion, the mod was worth it, the car looks great, and I haven't chalked up any pedestrians because of it (yet).
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Old 12-14-2001, 04:49 AM   #7
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The blue coating on the bulbs eliminates all the other wavelengths which is a considrable amount of light.

AS I recall from my days as a physics major, the eye focuses the worst on blue light. These are blue bulbs, not "super white". They do not have the claimed light output. The promotion is fraudulant.

Picking light bulbs because they have a "cool" look is ludicrous. You wouldn't pick an exhaust sytem that cut your power in half but had a great sound.
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Old 12-14-2001, 10:57 AM   #8
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. My replacement bulbs are easily brighter to my eye. I have not measured actual distances but with the 100W/80W in high beam, I can see MUCH farther down the road (at least the long line of lane dividers seems to extend forever).
Is the low beam brighter also? if so who makes them, i might have to get me a pair!
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Old 12-14-2001, 12:54 PM   #9
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Elite:

Do your bulbs have a blue coating on them?

Remember, the reaons it is blue is becuase it is removing the other wave lengths of light. So the acutal light output is less than the wattage would indicate.

Remember, I said that with the el cheapo bulbs that I ahd, it was like driving on parking lights (or DRL's). Adn thsi guy is selling tons of them on E-bay. They are downright dangerous.

I also wonder about people (mostly Mustang GT drivers) who put smoke covers over their lights: cool, but why bother having lights?
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Old 12-14-2001, 03:04 PM   #10
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Yes, there is a blue coating, but the light pattern appears more like daylight than the stock yellow-white. Blue coatings only filter some of the other wavelengths (particularly good at filtering red wavelengths) giving the light a more neutral (rather than warm) tone. Think of the old flashbulbs that we used to use before the new xenon flashes were developed. They were blue coated to correct for the warm tones of the film, were VERY bright and did not appear extremely blue to your eye.

Likewise, although there is a mild blueish tinge to my bulbs, they appear quite bright, are certainly not dangerous to drive with, and are better than the stock solution. I must admit, though, if I had to do it over I'd install the 130W/80W 9007s (available at the same price).

The low beams look brighter too, especially with the 70W fogs.

Just my .02

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Old 12-14-2001, 04:03 PM   #11
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I was talking specifically about the crap bulbs that I had. I bought them cheap on E-Bay, advertised for Subaru.

Your bulbs may well be better.
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Yes, all the lights i have gotten have had some sort of blueish tint on them. i have never bought cheep ones thou, i have got several different types of Piaa that were around 70 to 80 for a set! I have found that the lights that i have gotten also suck the most when it is wet out, i have found my self checking to make sure my lights were really on!
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Old 12-15-2001, 04:36 PM   #13
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Yes, all the lights i have gotten have had some sort of blueish tint on them. i have never bought cheep ones thou, i have got several different types of Piaa that were around 70 to 80 for a set! I have found that the lights that i have gotten also suck the most when it is wet out, i have found my self checking to make sure my lights were really on!
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These have a deep blue costing and the roads were wet. If they don';t work in that condition, how needs them?

Chistopher Lee, from whom it bought htem said, "Mpost people 'enjoy' the lights". Who watns tpo 'enjoy' lights? I want to see by them.

The Acura CL has some kind of Xenon light and they are really bright.

But yights to see with? Nah, why do that when you can buy lights that look "kewl".
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thats why they put blue flurescent tubes in bathrooms.so junkies cant find the veins in their arms
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So what lights do you prefer for me to get? I want to get driving lights also. And i like the bluish HID look, but not willing to dump visability for looks. So can anyone help?

Im driving a prelude n stuff around nowadays. Not having a wrx yet sucks. I want to get driving lights and new bulbs for the prelude, but what should i get? I've been hearing way too much krap about bluish bulbs. So, any suggestions? Oh yeah, you can't drive wid da stock fog lights on right? The wrx that is. Thats my main reason to want driving lights because u cant drive with fog lights on and i like driving lights on luxury cars. Mayn, confused and unsure.

So, anyone help?!?!??!
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So what lights do you prefer for me to get? I want to get driving lights also. And i like the bluish HID look, but not willing to dump visability for looks. So can anyone help?

Im driving a prelude n stuff around nowadays. Not having a wrx yet sucks. I want to get driving lights and new bulbs for the prelude, but what should i get? I've been hearing way too much krap about bluish bulbs. So, any suggestions? Oh yeah, you can't drive wid da stock fog lights on right? The wrx that is. Thats my main reason to want driving lights because u cant drive with fog lights on and i like driving lights on luxury cars. Mayn, confused and unsure.

So, anyone help?!?!??!
I drive with the fog lights on, just like everyone else. It fill in the area to the right and left of the car when you are turning.

I put my stock bulbs back in. I may find something a little brighter than the stock bulbs. PIAA advertises some, I think.

I couldn't believe how bad the blue bulbs are. People who buy them for looks are as stupid as people (mostly Mustang drivers) who put smoked covers over their headlights.
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piaa is the way to go? Which bulbs? They're awfully expensive. I also dont need glare. I never knew there was a difference between brightness and glare, but i guess there is.

Anyways, minimal glare and maximum viewing? I DO like the HID look also, but yeah.

ANY SUGGESTIONS!?!?!?
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I have no suggestions yet, sicne I ahven't found any myself.

Also, PIAA sells bulbs for your head lights. Here is a link to their bulbs:

http://www.piaa.com/9000seriesbulbs.html
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if you get 80 watt bulbs you should get an upgraded wiring harness, because the wires wont allow the 80 watt bulbs to get 80 watts... so they wont be bright at all.
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if you get 80 watt bulbs you should get an upgraded wiring harness, because the wires wont allow the 80 watt bulbs to get 80 watts... so they wont be bright at all.
Will they be dimmer than the factory bulbs?
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I've been using PIAA super whites for two years now (9007) and Extreme white in the fogs (H3). Bright, white and better than stock. These are standard wattage because I didn't want to burn the harness. As stated, higher wattage needs a bigger harness. Overall, the only way to get HID look is to go HID. For $65.00, 2nd best way to go that's easy.
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Thanx WRX addict for the foglight bulb info at your site.
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Thansk.

I only care how they look to me. The "HID" look isn't vry impressive if you don;t get the HIDlight. I bought some msierable bulbs on E-Bay. hey have a blue coating. it was like driving with parkign lights.
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http://lighting.mbz.org/

Go here for ALL the info you will ever want on headlights. Better late to the discussion than never
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I used Xenon 100/80 watt bulbs before and it messed up one of the headlamps it lasted me for about three months and all of a sudden I was driving without a headlight. took it to the dealership
and took a whole day to fix it they showed me the wiring to its two wirings into one it looked like a pain in the ass.

so I think if your using 100/80 take them out now or you will be sorry and will have to take time to go to the dealer and get that taken care of . Basically its not worth it .


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