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Old 04-11-2007, 06:44 PM   #1
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Will front camber plates make my front sit higher than stock and how it will effect my handling... if any?
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Old 04-11-2007, 06:55 PM   #2
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beyond reading and using the search function, racecompengineering has some good info on their sire.
1. Will it raise height?
-Depends on the manufacturer. Most will raise 1-2mm, however there are some models that do not. RCE has lowering plates, and non-lowering plates.
2. How will it effect handling?
- It depends on how you have your alignment setup. IF you have a neutral (ie stock) setup, it will handle about the same. This will allow you to have more negative camber, which in turn will allow you to turn better, as your camber numbers (through aggressive alignment) will allow it. Turn-in shuold feel a little better as you will not have rubber tophats anymore, but metal camber plates.
3. You will experience an increase in NVH from the metal-metal contact.

If you are *just* doing camber plates, you will probably be better off with some simpler susp mods and new wheels/tires first.

Give us some idea of what other mods you currently have and we'll be able to give you better advice. Also, what are your goals with this car? Tell us what you will be using it for primarily (ie daily driver w/ 4-5 autox events and 1-2 track days annually) and we can tell you more.

That being said, read Unibombers manifesto on suspension in the stickies then come back and ask more educated questions.

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Old 04-11-2007, 07:00 PM   #3
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Thanks Mark

I read the manifesto and I did search... just wanted to double check...

Here is my set up
06 WRX with 05 STi springs, 22 front adj whiteline sway bar, 24 rear adj whiteline sway bar, kartboy endlinks rear and front and I am about to put in Cusco camber plates...

Plans for the car: daily driver w/ 7-10 autox events and 1-3 track days annually

What is NVH?

Thanks a lot!

p.s. could you provide me with a link to racecompengineering where they discuss it... the site seems to have parts only... sorry

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Old 04-11-2007, 07:07 PM   #4
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p.s. just re-read my post.... yeah it does sound like I did not search Sorry about it...

What I was trying to find out if I need coilovers if I were to use camber plates? I found this article/post (http://www.teamblewracing.com/forum/...camber+plates), which left me confused if springs + camber plates are a good combo or if I HAVE to use coilovers with camber plates...
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Old 04-11-2007, 07:09 PM   #5
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on their camber plates page iirc. Either way, there is a TON of info on nasioc re: camberplates.
HAve you upgraded your tires and wheels yet? You will get far more benefit initially from better tires. More grip is more grip.
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Old 04-11-2007, 07:12 PM   #6
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p.s. just re-read my post.... yeah it does sound like I did not search Sorry about it...

What I was trying to find out if I need coilovers if I were to use camber plates? I found this article/post (http://www.teamblewracing.com/forum/...camber+plates), which left me confused if springs + camber plates are a good combo or if I HAVE to use coilovers with camber plates...
Nope. You're thinking pillowballs. RCE makes plates that will work with your existing setup. They're not too expensive and the lowering plates will get rid of the saggy butt look. I've also read that the slight forward rake helps with mpg as well as it allows for less air flow underneath the rough underbody of the car. (but that's somewhat speculative)

Ex: I'll be running Koni inserts with RCE springs, RCE non-lowering plates, Group-N rear tophats and whiteline camber bolts in the rear.
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Old 04-11-2007, 07:16 PM   #7
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Cool! Thanks a lot.

I am still on stock RE92.... cant wait to replace them

The reason I got Cusco camber plates is the price... Brand new cost over 200 and I was able to get used for 75 from fellow nasioc who sold his car... Could not pass this deal

Okay... so I dont need coilovers after all

Sweet

Thanks a lot!
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Old 04-11-2007, 07:18 PM   #8
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cusco raise slightly 5-7mm iirc.
You will need an alignment though. And you might want to get groupN rear tophats to level the feel a little bit, plus you only have to get one alignment that way.
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Oh I am definitely going to get an alignment!!!

Good idea about getting groupN rear tophats to offset the plates...
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not offset, compliment!
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that's what i meant

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I've got HKS camber plates on my car (KYB AGX struts and Prodrive springs). They raised the front end about 1/2" from where it was with the stock tophats. I liked the look of it better before, but its better to have the front end a little higher so your camber curve doesn't go to crap cause of control arm issues.

I got them only because I have sedan AGX's so I was limited in how much camber I could get. Now I've got 1.5 deg and its great!
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Old 07-13-2007, 09:02 PM   #13
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I measured the height... The result:

stock height = sti used + cusco camber plates...

so now my car is at the same height as it used to be in front and little lower in the back

does not bother me since cusco plates are worth it!!!
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