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Old 12-13-2001, 08:31 AM   #1
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so I'm driving along with a big smile on my face and I get home and park in the parking lot, right ? I get out of my car, and touch the metal door and ZAP ! I get this HUUUGELY powerful electrostatic shock !

*** ?

Can someone explain to me why this happens? I thought for a bit and the best I could come up with was that the tires rolling on the pavement create static by losing electrons, which charges the car negatively ? And so you get this huge ZAP when you ground the car by touching it with your hand.

How can I get rid of this problem ? Is this the reason I see people with those little pieces of kevlar fabric hanging from their rear bumpers ?

Thanks for your help.
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Old 12-13-2001, 09:03 AM   #2
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yeah this happens in the fall/wintertime...

it's got a lot to do w/your shoes...

different shoes will allow ya to get zapped!

just be wary!
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Old 12-13-2001, 09:29 AM   #3
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Once your car gets all charged up it is difficult for it not to happen too....one thing you can do is use the middle of your arm as a contact point; it is a little less sensitive than your fingertips when touching the door. (Like the underside of your forearm).

Cold dry weather seems to bring it on the worst....

If you have a Subie then with no window frame on the door it's harder to do this.....on a vehicle with window framed doors then it's a little easier.

Doesn't necessarily alleviate the problem but helps minimize the impact.

I honestly can't answer *where* the static charge comes from but from my own personal guess it is partially generated by you sliding out of the seat (or so it seems) upon vehicle exit.
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Old 12-13-2001, 09:39 AM   #4
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Can someone explain to me why this happens? I thought for a bit and the best I could come up with was that the tires rolling on the pavement create static by losing electrons, which charges the car negatively ?
If that were the case, you'd get the shock when you touched the ground, not the car.

I'm guessing you don't have a leather interrior.

This happens to me all the time (I live in the desert, no need for winter, our air is dry all the time). The most common cause is friction between your clothes an the car seat. When you rub against the cloth of the seat you are the one that gets a static charge relative to the car. (Much like rubbing your feet in dry socks across a carpet.) Moisture in the air or on the material (or static dissapitive shoes) will allow the static to dissapate slowly, avoiding the sudden shock.

Touch the door metal before you get out. Keep touching it as you climb out. You will still get a bit of a shock, but it should reduce it. I believe you can also find fabric treatments to help avoid this (for your car seats) or possibly change the fabric softener you use in your laundry. Or get a leather interrior. Leather won't usually generate the static.

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Old 12-13-2001, 10:46 AM   #5
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I posted a similar question in the Car Audio Forum and got some pretty good suggestions as to how to prevent getting shocked. I think the thread was "shocked on Subies" or something.

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Old 12-13-2001, 10:57 AM   #6
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OMG! this happens to me all the friggin time. i've become paranoid about touching anything metal. i read that '94 accords had grounding issues and the toll collectors were weary against these cars because they would get shocked everytime the driver would give him toll. anyways, i thought similar case, i took my subie in and asked the mechanic to take a look, i could only wonder he said about me after i left. hehe. of course there was nothing he could do. basically, i am still getting shocked really bad in winter and i wear all sorts of shoes. if you should ever figure it out, please save this brother.
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Old 12-13-2001, 11:13 AM   #7
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contact taichih on the board - there is an option in japan, these little things that go on the doors & eliminate shock, i think it's like $50 for them...
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Old 12-13-2001, 12:22 PM   #8
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you could just touch your key to the door when getting out to let IT take the shock.

That way you don't get burned at the point of contact from the spark...the key takes the heat.

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Old 12-13-2001, 12:47 PM   #9
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It seems like some cars are worse than others, and the worst I ever had was a few Subarus ago. I had an '88 DL that would about knock you flat when getting out of the car in the winter. At night you could see the spark jump off the chrome door handle.
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Old 12-13-2001, 12:48 PM   #10
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i still got shocked through the key.. i just grab the door latch thingie in the door frame when I get out (before my butt leaves the seat) .. no shockie...
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Old 12-13-2001, 12:59 PM   #11
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It's a combo of things... first the tires... low-rolling resistance tires(RE92's) are poor conductors... something about the carbon content, I think... it's bad in the winter because the air is dryer and doesn't conduct as well either. But all these non-conducting surfaces build up static charges. When you're in the car, you're insulated by all the plastic and carpet... when you get out and touch the metal the static discharges into you. if you were barefoot it would be worse. Different shoes can make a difference tho because they let you become slowly charged like the car so there's no charge difference between you and the car so you don't get shocked... it slowly bleeds off tho after you're out of the car so you don't get shocked again later...
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Old 12-13-2001, 01:01 PM   #12
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It is funny a hell to see your passengers shock the hell outta themselves I'll try and wait till they get out first!!!

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Old 12-13-2001, 01:47 PM   #13
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Originally posted by Subie Gal
yeah this happens in the fall/wintertime...

it's got a lot to do w/your shoes...

different shoes will allow ya to get zapped!

just be wary!
jamie
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your shoes combined w/ the dry air and cloth seats...i get shocked ALL the time.

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Old 12-13-2001, 01:50 PM   #14
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It's a Subaru thing. My girlfriend ALWAYS gets the shock! Hehe!
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Old 12-13-2001, 03:23 PM   #15
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When you exit your car, hold on to the door.. you won't get shocked. Just make sure you grab the door before you touch the ground.
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Old 12-13-2001, 03:29 PM   #16
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trust me, you'll get shocked regardless. i also tried to close the door by pushing on the window, thinking that i'm safe, when i reach for the door to a restaurant or work...........pop.
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Old 12-13-2001, 05:03 PM   #17
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It's not just a subaru thing... my mom's old honda did it to me and her maxima does it from time to time... the worst was a friend of mine's cavalier.... of course it could have just been that I was wearing a wool peacoat and sweaters and it was the middle of winter in massachusetts so it was REALLY REALLY dry... at one point I shocked myself on a door... a house door... a friggin' unpainted WOOD DOOR!!!!!!!
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Old 12-13-2001, 07:54 PM   #18
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Not sure if they sell them here in the USA - although I imagine they must do - but in England you could buy a 12-18" long rubber strip that attached to the underpart of your car and would touch the ground when the car was still. This helped the static energy to escape prior to you or someone else leaving the var and getting shocked.

Anyway else see these being used, or is it just a UK thing?

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Old 12-13-2001, 08:16 PM   #19
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I remember seeing in a friends old mazda little rubber nubbins on the door that seemed to suck up the juice. Maybe that's what Tai Chi can get ? Someone should probably find out because it's starting to piss me off. Not enough for me to find out for myself though.
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Old 12-13-2001, 09:29 PM   #20
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It's the flux capacitor.

Put the anti-static mat on.

Radio mars for help.
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Old 12-14-2001, 03:15 AM   #21
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For me, the window isn't even safe. I get shocked through the tinting.
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Old 12-14-2001, 04:47 AM   #22
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That's why I always wear gloves to drive in winter.
I don't like cold steering wheel either
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Old 12-14-2001, 09:53 AM   #23
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Putting a ground strap on the car won't help you. It probably wouldn't even help the car avoid building up a charge.

The potential difference is between you and your car not the car and the ground. Tap the window or part of the metal bodywork with a knuckle as you get out. Or get some of that anti static fabric spray and spray your seats.
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Old 12-14-2001, 10:40 PM   #24
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Lightbulb me tooo

I get zapped closing my door as my feets is on the ground

hmmmmmmmm
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Old 12-14-2001, 11:06 PM   #25
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My alarm has remote window rollup. I usually drive with the window down and the heat up. Don't ask why, it's a guy thing and we have no idea why we do it. Anyway, my windows are usually down when I get out of the car. I am holding the top of the door in the middle usually when I get out. I have yet to be shocked by my suby. My passengers, however, always get shocked. HEHE
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