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Old 04-18-2007, 06:59 PM   #1
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About 6 months ago I took a new job working as a Systems Administrator for the Navy (as a contractor). At the time I took the job I got a fairly decent raise, but as time has passed my job duties have increases a ton. I have become the ISSO and take part in writing a lot of the security procedures and stuff like that. We are also in the middle of building a brand new network which I more or less have designed from the ground up.

I will have my MCSE and CCNA very soon and almost have my bachelors... but here is where things very fishy. There is another worker in my office who I recently found out makes more than me, a good deal more. He is out of the military, my age, has no college credits, and no real prior experience other than being in the military... Thing is, he works for a different company, which my company (on this contract) is a sub to.

I put my information in on salary.com, and according to that site I am not making anywhere near to what I should be making, and I don't think that site incorporates my clearances into it.

So I guess what I'm asking is, should I bring this up with my boss, and if so how do you go about doing it? Do I need to bring in a backup plan (as in, have another job offer) before going about something like this? Are sites like salary.com really usable in an argument for something like this?

Just looking for other peoples experiences with something similar to this.
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Old 04-18-2007, 07:01 PM   #2
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You should "jump ship".
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Old 04-18-2007, 07:11 PM   #3
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About 6 months ago I took a new job working as a Systems Administrator for the Navy (as a contractor). At the time I took the job I got a fairly decent raise, but as time has passed my job duties have increases a ton. I have become the ISSO and take part in writing a lot of the security procedures and stuff like that. We are also in the middle of building a brand new network which I more or less have designed from the ground up.

I will have my MCSE and CCNA very soon and almost have my bachelors... but here is where things very fishy. There is another worker in my office who I recently found out makes more than me, a good deal more. He is out of the military, my age, has no college credits, and no real prior experience other than being in the military... Thing is, he works for a different company, which my company (on this contract) is a sub to.

I put my information in on salary.com, and according to that site I am not making anywhere near to what I should be making, and I don't think that site incorporates my clearances into it.

So I guess what I'm asking is, should I bring this up with my boss, and if so how do you go about doing it? Do I need to bring in a backup plan (as in, have another job offer) before going about something like this? Are sites like salary.com really usable in an argument for something like this?

Just looking for other peoples experiences with something similar to this.
A) I bolded out something you should pay attention to. Just because he didn't go to college doesn't mean he didn't get an education.
2) Are you being paid correctly for what you were hired to do?
III) If so but the scope has creeped severely then you need to talk to the account manager about work outside the scope of the contract, and that they should be billing more (and hopefully you make more) for the role you're filling.
D) If III doesn't work then it's time to bail.
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Old 04-18-2007, 07:29 PM   #4
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You can use the salary info to get an estimate and show it to your boss when it is time for a raise or before that.
If not, maybe it is time to find another job.

Another site you can use is www.payscale.com
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Old 04-18-2007, 07:38 PM   #5
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Wait a second, the guy you're talking about could be me!
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Old 04-18-2007, 07:43 PM   #6
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You are a contractor.. Get reassigned to a higher paying gig.
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Old 04-18-2007, 07:45 PM   #7
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That is weak - I would confront the manager

You could say "this system only works if the other person does not brag about their salary." See what he says about that, maybe you will get the less educated (by college degree standards) guy kicked or your $ increased. It is cheap but I'm in a bad mood - **** him
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Old 04-18-2007, 08:34 PM   #8
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Politics man. That's the other half of your salary.

Are you your own company, or do you work for a contracting company? Talk to the boss, or jump ship to his company.
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Old 04-18-2007, 09:49 PM   #9
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Politics man. That's the other half of your salary.

Are you your own company, or do you work for a contracting company? Talk to the boss, or jump ship to his company.


I work for a contracting company.

The thing is, my company is the sub to the company that the other guy works for.

But a recompete is coming up, and rumor is they wont get it (the current prime), so I am tempted to just wait
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Old 04-18-2007, 09:54 PM   #10
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While I don't fully understand, if they are subcontracting you out, wouldn't it be natural that they are getting the bulk of the money, and paying your company a few bucks less to get the job done?

hijack: drkwtsn, when is that arcade auction in Timonium this year? I think I recall you being the one with the basement all decked out in arcades from that auction. If it ain't you, then my apologies. /hijack
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Old 04-18-2007, 10:21 PM   #11
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While I don't fully understand, if they are subcontracting you out, wouldn't it be natural that they are getting the bulk of the money, and paying your company a few bucks less to get the job done?

hijack: drkwtsn, when is that arcade auction in Timonium this year? I think I recall you being the one with the basement all decked out in arcades from that auction. If it ain't you, then my apologies. /hijack
I'm not sure how it works either, so I guess its something to talk to my boss about

And while it wasn't me who has all those games, I did go like 2 years ago to the auction

Heres the calendar for it : http://www.auctiongamesales.com/AUCTIONDATES.htm

looks like oct 27th, start saving now, some games are kinda expensive
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A) I bolded out something you should pay attention to. Just because he didn't go to college doesn't mean he didn't get an education.
2) Are you being paid correctly for what you were hired to do?
III) If so but the scope has creeped severely then you need to talk to the account manager about work outside the scope of the contract, and that they should be billing more (and hopefully you make more) for the role you're filling.
D) If III doesn't work then it's time to bail.
Just had to comment I'm glad to see someone else make lists this way.

I usually spell out four if I get that far.
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