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Old 04-22-2007, 10:31 AM   #1
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Default Best way to ship wheels from the US to Canada!?!?!

I am really interested in buying some wheels of a forum member in the states, but I am in Canada.

I was just wondering if anyone has had the experience of having wheels shipped up to Canada and what the best way to avoid duty etc. is? I know I'll have to pay quite a larger amount, but I really want these wheels!!!

Please let me know!!!

BTW, I'm the guy with the white Evo IX MR in toronto, nice to meet you all :P
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Old 04-22-2007, 11:04 AM   #2
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I have. I bought my car from the states. Essentially you have to talk to a good broker. I can recomend someone. Randal Ried helped me import my car. He charged about $500 for the import which is a deal. You do NOT want to deal with the paperwork unless you're prepaired to camp at the border for 72 hours if you mess up. Here's his contact infor

randall@pntri.org

Randall Reid
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1-866-862-8665
Fax 1-250-862-8335

Tell him Mike from Saskatoon referred you.

If you do want to tackle it yourself check out the link below:

http://www.riv.ca/
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Old 04-22-2007, 11:05 AM   #3
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Oh and you can't avoid the Duty unless the car is manufactured in North America, and Subaru's arn't. You'll have to pay it and there's no legal way around that. The border does not take kindly to smuggling, plus in order to license the car you need all the proper documents.
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Old 04-22-2007, 12:29 PM   #4
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^What?? He's talking about importing wheels - like rims and tires - not a car itself. That's a whole different story.

Anyway, rims/tires is a tough one since you're only allowed $100 per person for "gifts" that aren't dutiable. You could have the guy sending them declare the customs value as $400, then have him send the wheels to your address with four people on the "Send To:" line.

Or, you could have him mark the wheels/tires as "Samples, for display or testing purposes only." That'll avoid the duty as well.

Last, don't send it via UPS, because you will get charged $60 in brokerage fees.

USPS/Canada Post is the way to do it - just make sure you get it insured, and send it priority. The regular air mail takes forever.

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Old 04-22-2007, 12:41 PM   #5
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squashman thanks a lot for the great info. I guess the other guy didn't read properly :P

I will take what you said into consideration for sure.

I also just realized that I could have the wheels sent to buffalo to a storage place, then go to buffalo for a day with my sister and pick up the wheels and let my sister go shopping. Then we could just declare that we bought clothes and stuff. If they ask about the wheels I could just say that they've been in the trunk the whole time because I haven't had time to put them on the car yet.

Think that would work?
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Old 04-22-2007, 01:13 PM   #6
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squashman thanks a lot for the great info. I guess the other guy didn't read properly :P

I will take what you said into consideration for sure.

I also just realized that I could have the wheels sent to buffalo to a storage place, then go to buffalo for a day with my sister and pick up the wheels and let my sister go shopping. Then we could just declare that we bought clothes and stuff. If they ask about the wheels I could just say that they've been in the trunk the whole time because I haven't had time to put them on the car yet.

Think that would work?
yeah, and then when they find out you are lie-ing, they sieze your car Best thing to do, is NOT lie to them, especially if you are doing it that way. Best thing to do, is be upfront with them, as they can make your life a living hell.. stay 48hrs, I believe the bring-back limit now is $450cdn.
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Old 04-22-2007, 01:26 PM   #7
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OMFG I'm a moron. I bought most of my parts from the states too but nothing like rims. If your seller will ship them individually you might be able to get away with misslabeling. Samples or Test pieces work well. You could also lable them as damaged.
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Old 04-22-2007, 03:06 PM   #8
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yeah, and then when they find out you are lie-ing, they sieze your car Best thing to do, is NOT lie to them, especially if you are doing it that way. Best thing to do, is be upfront with them, as they can make your life a living hell.. stay 48hrs, I believe the bring-back limit now is $450cdn.
I don't see your point? You want me to lie to them and tell them the wheels were under 450 bucks but you don't want me to say that they have been in my car the whole time?
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Old 04-22-2007, 03:31 PM   #9
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I don't see your point? You want me to lie to them and tell them the wheels were under 450 bucks but you don't want me to say that they have been in my car the whole time?

I didn't read what you paid for them,

so declare the value, and pay the duty on whatever it is over the $450

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Old 04-23-2007, 10:25 AM   #10
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I'm just gonna declare them low and make sure the seller is aware of what I'm declaring them for. Then I'll hope for the best
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Old 04-23-2007, 10:26 AM   #11
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Yup, chances are you're already saving a bunch of money by buying used and from the States, so just have them shipped to Buffalo and then bring it back yourself. Declare what you paid for the wheels (with invoice or emails stating price) and pay the taxes. Done and done. You'll more than likely still end up ahead of the curve this way.
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Old 04-23-2007, 12:10 PM   #12
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What you are trying avoid is brokerage. You can't avoid duty, unless you lie about it.

Call UPS and ask where is the port of entry, and go clear the wheels yourself. You can even try BAX Global because they also allow self clearing. FedEx does not.

I don't know where you are from but here in Calgary, port of entry for UPS are either in Vancouver or Winnipeg, so you cannot clear yourself...unless you want to drive there.

For Calgarians... use BAX Global if you can't get it ship with USPS. They are by the airport and will let you do self clearing.
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Old 04-23-2007, 12:37 PM   #13
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i shipped some wheels to a guy in canada, declared value as 150/wheel. 600 total declared value, he said it turned out fine. i put the item as "gift" in the commercial invoice thru fedex. i wanted it to be insured to 600- your insured value has to match your declared value. ie, you cant insure them for 800 and then declare the value as 400. fedex worked out good for me.
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Old 04-23-2007, 01:08 PM   #14
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Thanks for the respones.

Does anyone have the contact of a place where I can have the wheels sent to in buffalo?

Narenji, that's not bad at all
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Old 04-23-2007, 02:18 PM   #15
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I know someone that uses his parents as car part mules. When he had them bring his 20" wheels accross the border his parents marked the boxes as "Kosher food". When the border guards went to have a look they went into a "Now the government won't let us have our food?"

I guess it works like a charm every time.

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Old 04-23-2007, 04:38 PM   #16
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I know someone that uses his parents as car part mules. When he had them bring his 20" wheels accross the border his parents marked the boxes as "Kosher food". When the border guards went to have a look they went into a "Now the government won't let us have our food?"

I guess it works like a charm every time.

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I'm jewish maybe I should try that
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Old 04-23-2007, 05:13 PM   #17
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It works for art too.

On a serious note if you have them mailed, assuming they have tires, is to cut out cardboard to cover the rims and them plastic wrap 2 tires together side by side. If its good enough for the tire rack its good enough for me.

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Old 04-23-2007, 11:08 PM   #18
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I have decided to just declare the stuff as 150 a wheel when I cross the border and hope for the best.

Let's just hope they don't know what Advans are >.<
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Old 04-25-2007, 06:41 PM   #19
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How much are really paying per wheel?

I mean seriously. Let say each wheel is $500. So $2000 for the set. With duty and tax, you pay $240. Then take out at least $100 for gas, maybe more.

So, for $120, you want to be put on a blacklist so that everytime you cross the border they search you? Seems like the best thing to do is to declare the wheels as used and declare a decent value.

Trust me, I know someone who dated a border patrol person. They make it game to see how many people they can catch in a day. They know when you are lying and will also just search you car for the hell of it... especially for short trips over the border.
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