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Old 05-07-2007, 06:35 AM   #26
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Thanks guys!
Now is 40k miles on my wagon. First I'll try my axles, then I'll see.
Reason why I'm gonna do this swap, is alittle accident, after my front suspention was damaged. I could buy OEM parts and fotget all the problems, but when prices of OEM parts are 2 or 3 times bigger than an aftermarket, trying to do something better ror my wagon

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Old 05-07-2007, 09:19 PM   #27
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About the axles: Are all sedan axles the same? ( RS, TS, WRX, STI ). I asumme the STI axles are stronger and therefore different. Do the STI's axles fit into the wagon rear diff. and trans.?
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Old 05-07-2007, 10:06 PM   #28
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STi axles definitely different- different size- not compatible at all w/ the WRX (minus a full driveline swap)- I'd guess the newer RS's would be the same, but better not take my guess as gospel
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Old 05-09-2007, 03:10 AM   #29
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Afaik, front RS axles are the same but rear differ because wrx has a LSD which requires different inner axle stubs.

I'm running wagon axles with the sedan track conversion and there is still enough play in the axles to go wider. I see no reason why damage would be caused as long as reasonable CV joint angles are maintained. People have said " blah blah blah, danger, blah blah, axle failure, blah, sedan parts cause nasty rashes, etc!" and I haven't really paid attention, since the parts fit just fine. This likely is no harder on axles than lifting a subaru (wrx, forester, legacy, outback etc, have all been lifted) and I've never seen a report of axle/cv failure. In fact, lowering the car from stock height will cause a reduction in axle length, potentially canceling out the extension due to longer control arms/lateral links.

Control arms, tie rods (not necessary), sway bar, end links, lateral links, and struts from a sedan will bolt right up, and I found that even lowered 1" all around, I had no tire on fender rubbing.

do it and enjoy!
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Old 05-09-2007, 04:55 PM   #30
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In summery, I could do this swap with:

Front sway bar with end links
Front A-arms
Camber bolts front and rear
Rear lateral links
rear end links

So I can use the wagons:

Struts and springs
Tie rod ends
Axles front and rear
Rear sway bar

Strongly suggested:

Front and rear axles from a WRX sedan
Sedan struts
wagon STI pinks or prodrive springs

Wish list:
Complete drive train from a 05 STI

Have I missed anything?
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Old 05-09-2007, 05:22 PM   #31
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nope, that sounds about right. You'll also need about 5-10 hours and some good tools!

there is really no point in using sedan tie rod ends, they are literally 5mm longer and the wagon ones thread on more than far enough. You should do the sedan sway bar anyways, it fits fine on wagon or sedan and is 20mm thick, so a good upgrade from your 17mm.
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Old 05-09-2007, 05:52 PM   #32
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You have to decide why you're doing this (preformance versus aesthetics) and what your goals are. For example, as BigSky already pointed out there are arguments for leaving the rear at "wagon width". And sedan struts are only "strongly suggested" if you don't want to take advantage of the extra negative camber that the other mods would give you (in which case camber bolts probably aren't necessary either).

Also I think you're still a bit confused between 'sedan' and 'STi'

o a non-STi sedan rear swaybar is the same fitment as the wagon's and from mid-03 has been the same diameter (17mm)

o afaik non-STi sedan rear endlinks are the same as the wagon's so the only swap that makes sense to me is if you do the complete STi lat link / endlink / swaybar combo
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you're right, 20mm sway bars were only on certain years of wrx sedans, but they are out there and worth tracking down.

UkNuck is right, you definitely have to weigh your reasons for doing the swap. I did it so that I could run sedan struts and obtain a slight lift without sacrificing negative camber.... and I was bored with my current setup
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Old 05-09-2007, 09:53 PM   #34
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ok, so no rear endlinks nesscessary unless I'm doing a STI swap.
My rear sway is already 22mm adjustable and to keep the balance in my favour I'm getting a 24mm adjustable front sway bar. From my understanding a larger sway up front will be better for not understeering. I will also have alot of adjusting I could do with the sways.
I 'm doing this because I would like more performance and options for my wagon. ( There is a small part of me that will like the look of it also ).
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Old 05-10-2007, 02:37 AM   #35
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Old 05-10-2007, 07:02 PM   #36
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Old 05-10-2007, 07:05 PM   #37
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ok, so no rear endlinks nesscessary unless I'm doing a STI swap.
My rear sway is already 22mm adjustable and to keep the balance in my favour I'm getting a 24mm adjustable front sway bar. From my understanding a larger sway up front will be better for not understeering. I will also have alot of adjusting I could do with the sways.
I 'm doing this because I would like more performance and options for my wagon. ( There is a small part of me that will like the look of it also ).

You are pretty much good to go with the 24mm up front. You should upgrade the rear endlinks over the stock plastic one's. Whiteline, kartboy, depends on your needs. Fronts, you can just go with stock WRX sedan front endlinks for the meantime or go with the above mentioned endlinks as well. The Whiteline endlinks are stock length and the kartboy's are shorter than stock. Both are great quality.
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