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Old 11-03-2001, 12:42 PM   #1
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Default I'm an idiot (where's the oil filter?)

LOL. As we speak, the WRX is in my driveway, oil plug out, and old oil sitting in the pan (along with the drain plug - yes, I did drop it in there ).

So I go to take the old oil filter off and ... wha? Where's the oil filter?

Help.

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Old 11-03-2001, 12:51 PM   #2
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It's within a foot of the oil plug on the passenger side of the engine.
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Old 11-03-2001, 12:51 PM   #3
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Have you checked you glove box yet?
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Old 11-03-2001, 12:59 PM   #4
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Have you checked you glove box yet?
That was the first place I looked! But no dice. Then I checked the trunk, and damnit it wasn't there either.

I felt around in the area by the drain plug and did find it - but the oil filter is totally hidden from sight up under the front tray.

Part two of the Incredible Journey is that none of my four oil-filter wrenches fit the Subbie oil filter. Nothing is ever easy.

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Old 11-03-2001, 04:58 PM   #5
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Glad to see you've overcome this seemingly insurmountable task of locating the oil filter... teehehe j/k!
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Old 11-05-2001, 02:48 PM   #6
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You should not need an oil filter wrench to loosen the Subie oil filter unless the grease monkey at the dealership over torqued the thing. You suppose to torque it in by hand, not with a wrench.

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Old 11-05-2001, 03:02 PM   #7
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Yes, it's SUPPOSED to be hand-tight. However, when I did the first oil change in my sube, the factory filter was so tight I needed a belt wrench to get it off.

Maybe FHI hired Popeye to install filters on the line.

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Old 11-05-2001, 07:35 PM   #8
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Drive a screwdriver into the side of it and turn the filter with the screwdriver... you won't be reusing the oil filter after all .


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Old 11-05-2001, 10:12 PM   #9
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Maybe FHI hired Popeye to install filters on the line.
I think they hired the Incredible Hulk... They *should* all be able to be loosened by hand, but my first change did require a monster size screwdriver to get that damn filter out.
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Old 11-06-2001, 08:02 PM   #10
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Default tools, tools, tools...

yeah BIG screw driver or BIG channel locks... fun stuff! Hope you get it!
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Old 11-11-2001, 10:59 PM   #11
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this tool has yet to fail to remove even the most stuborn filter in the 10+ years that I've had it.



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Old 11-11-2001, 11:10 PM   #12
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Yes, it's SUPPOSED to be hand-tight. However, when I did the first oil change in my sube, the factory filter was so tight I needed a belt wrench to get it off.

Maybe FHI hired Popeye to install filters on the line.

-Joe
With the assistance of Hpirally - thanks Joe! - I learned how to change the oil on my WRX on Friday night. Like JDS, the oil filter on my car was so tight, we almost imagined we'd never get it off. We both spent several minutes a piece trying to twist it off.

I like Brian's suggestion about ramming a screwdriver into the old filter.

Anyway, the new filter - stock filter from Subaru - was hand tightened and shouldn't be nearly so difficult to remove 3000 miles from now.

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Old 11-12-2001, 08:14 PM   #13
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Peaty - where'd you get that? Seems like it'd be useful to have around.
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Old 11-12-2001, 08:20 PM   #14
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I got mine from a NAPPA mine is a KD brand but there are other ones. I've seen them at the local AutoZone I think.
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Old 11-12-2001, 08:23 PM   #15
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Hmmm... I've never seen one... I'll have to go look. Thanks!
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Old 12-09-2001, 10:55 PM   #16
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Drive a screwdriver into the side of it and turn the filter with the screwdriver...
Just did my first oil change today, and fortunately I remembered this posting, it saved me from a lot of trouble! I actually used an awl because it was easier to get it into the filter. But they really must have godzilla tightening the filters at the factory, there's no way I could have gotten it off by hand. I regretted not investing in a filter wrench, but at that point the oil in the car was already drained.

My mechanical skills are not very highly developed, I probably set a record for the longest time anybody ever took for an oil change. While godzilla is tightening the oil filter, they must also have him tightening the drain plug. I only had a small open wrench, and I couldn't get it off with that, I was also afraid of stripping it using too much force. So I went to Sears and got myself a nice set of combination wrenches. The next challenge was getting the old crush washer off the plug, it took me quite a while to get it loose. Then came the oil filter saga...

Anyway, thanks to all the tips here, the operation ended up being successful! I'm glad I did it myself, even though I spent more time than expected, I'm sure I will be much faster next time. Some details: I used the standard jack to lift up the car on the drivers side, it got very tight with the large drain pan I bought otherwise. I filled with Valvoline 5W-30, will probably go with synthetic in a couple of oil changes.

Thanks again to everybody for sharing their wisdom with us mechanically challenged people.
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Old 12-10-2001, 04:03 PM   #17
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Next time you're at Sears (and before you attempt to change your oil again), pick up a set of jack stands. It's not wise to lay under your car and yank on a wrench with just the factory scissor jack. I'd also recommend finding a mechanicaly enclined friend to help you develop those skills before getting in too deep next time.
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Old 12-10-2001, 06:15 PM   #18
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For oil changes I like to use a set of Rino-Ramps rather than jack up the car and place jack stands under there. Just a suggestion. They also come in handy if you change the rear sway bar or do any minor exhaust work. But like Red-Imp says, it's really a bad idea to get under a car using the OEM jack. The good news is after removing the factory filter and drain plug the first time it's a lot easier after that.

Also if you don't have a performance guage pack with the Oil temp sending unit in the drain plug, get one of these to make the change go quicker with less mess (and no need for a new crush washer):

http://www.scoobymods.com/mods/impre...drainvalve.php

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Old 12-10-2001, 09:25 PM   #19
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I can change my oil & filter without the Rhino ramps!

PS the filter is covered up by the "plastic front undertray" on the WRX.
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Old 12-10-2001, 10:58 PM   #20
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I second the fumoto drain valve. I put it on after much hard work of undoing the drain plug and filter that was tight as all hell from the factory. I wonder how tight the other fluid drain plugs are...
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Old 12-11-2001, 09:17 PM   #21
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I regretted not investing in a filter wrench, but at that point the oil in the car was already drained.
If that's the case then it is no longer the oil in the car, it's the oil out of the car. j/k
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Old 12-12-2001, 05:47 PM   #22
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Fumotovalve makes it easy! but you still get a mess when you remove the filter. =(

probably best to punch a hole in the filter and drain it before pulling it off.

anyway, you don't need to jack up ANYTHING to get everything changed in a subie.. as long as your arm fits under the nose. Even without a fumoto, it's one of the easiest oil changes out there.
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Old 12-13-2001, 11:51 PM   #23
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Next time you're at Sears (and before you attempt to change your oil again), pick up a set of jack stands. It's not wise to lay under your car and yank on a wrench with just the factory scissor jack.
I didn't really lie under the car, I was still in front of it. I just lifted the car by a couple of inches (the tire was still slightly touching the ground) to give me more room and a better view to access the drain plug and oil filter. I did in fact get jack stands, and was planning to use them if I needed to lift the car more.
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I'd also recommend finding a mechanicaly enclined friend to help you develop those skills before getting in too deep next time.
I took a car maintenance class a while ago, and had done an oil change on my previous car, it was only the first on the Subie.

It wasn't as bad as it might have sounded, it just took long. I prefer to do things slowly and carefully, I don't think I was in any danger of hurting myself or the car.
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Old 12-19-2001, 07:42 PM   #24
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you really don't need a jack to change the oil. I did it last time without lifting the car. Since the oil filter is right behind the bumper, I was able to just reach in and grab it. Really convenient.
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