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Old 10-12-2010, 12:58 PM   #4901
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Yea, i think his name was Kabir! That's so funny. I was out there for a family reunion and was just messing around practicing panning shots, and he saw me on the side of the road and came back to ask what I was doing, and I told him that I'm an amateur photog and loved his car, and he loved the picture. How did you recognize it as your former car?

White 04 STi with WRX skirts, same lip and tint? Lol

Armin, I know you use your 60mm for fruits but anything for car shots? You said you use the 50mm for interior details, why not the macro?

I found the 105micro takes awesome portraits! But haven't figured out anything neat for car details or closeups
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Old 10-12-2010, 01:07 PM   #4902
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i tried panning shots at the track over the weekend (Subiefest)... that **** is hard! haha. i was using the 70-200mm, which the weight is still hard to get used to. but the main problem i had was i think i was shooting too slow for how fast the cars were going.
my whole first group i was trying at 1/40th & 1/50th... definitely too slow for high speeds. cars always came out blurry...

here is an example when i started speeding it up a bit towards the end of the day...
shot was taken at F13 - 1/125th

i cropped this photo quite a bit to eliminate distractions. since this is my first real panning set (will post more later) i wanted to get some feedback & thoughts.
Yeah, panning is a different animal than car-to-car rolling shots. I actually usually start at 1/125 and go as high as 1/160 for panning. Don't forget that you want to lead the car (like you're sniping it) and make sure your focus point is on the front of the vehicle. You also want to make sure you swivel your whole torso and not just move your shoulders. I actually tend to stand kinda sideways so that I can pan properly.
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Old 10-12-2010, 01:08 PM   #4903
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I would love to have a fixed aperture lens, one that was made specifically to perform flawlessly at that aperture, and that aperture alone. I'd buy it today.

As far as FFL, or primes, it's all I shoot barring rig-shots. Zooms are for lazy people, old people, wedding photographers, and landscapers. You one of those?
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I'm glad I fit in there with the wedding photos
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Old 10-12-2010, 01:10 PM   #4904
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Yeah, panning is a different animal than car-to-car rolling shots. I actually usually start at 1/125 and go as high as 1/160 for panning. Don't forget that you want to lead the car (like you're sniping it) and make sure your focus point is on the front of the vehicle. You also want to make sure you swivel your whole torso and not just move your shoulders. I actually tend to stand kinda sideways so that I can pan properly.
Thanks man, ill be sure to remember that next time i try... i definitely was just moving my shoulders (and boy i had to move em fast, those cars were hauling ***)
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Old 10-12-2010, 01:12 PM   #4905
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Hey everyone! I love this thread... what do you think of mine?
Nice shots, you've composed them well! The outside shots could all use a tiny bit more exposure in my opinion, and your second shot from way up above might need a small white balance adjustment, since the car is looking a bit blue. I also personally would add a little more saturation, but I think getting the exposure correct is the first thing you need to tackle. Good start!
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Old 10-12-2010, 01:14 PM   #4906
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I knew I'd miss someone in there . I'll give you and Armin a pass because of your occupational hazards .
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Old 10-12-2010, 01:16 PM   #4907
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Armin, I know you use your 60mm for fruits but anything for car shots? You said you use the 50mm for interior details, why not the macro?

I found the 105micro takes awesome portraits! But haven't figured out anything neat for car details or closeups
Well, the main reason I don't really use my macro for car shots is because most car parts that I like to focus on tend to be large enough that the macro's small depth of field often doesn't show a part's logo, shape, or surroundings. That's essential the same issue that you're having yourself. There are exceptions of course, but I've found that my 50mm É1.4 gets the job done easier since it's just a faster lens overall to start with.
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Old 10-12-2010, 01:19 PM   #4908
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Thanks man, ill be sure to remember that next time i try... i definitely was just moving my shoulders (and boy i had to move em fast, those cars were hauling ***)
Yeah, if you move your whole torso instead of just your shoulders, you're able to keep a more steady and consistent pan with the car, no matter how fast they're going. If you're wearing a backpack with all your camera gear, this can also act as a decent side abdominal workout with enough reps
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Old 10-12-2010, 01:22 PM   #4909
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I knew I'd miss someone in there . I'll give you and Armin a pass because of your occupational hazards .
You know, I actually had a fleeting thought the other day...if I sold the 12-24mm É4 and 17-55mm É2.8, how long could I get by successfully with just a D700 (or other full frame Nikon), the new 24mm É1.4, and my current 50mm É1.4 and 85mm É1.8? I'd keep my 70-20mm É2.8 on my D300 since the range is longer anyway on the cropped sensor. Hmmmmmmmmm
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Yeah, if you move your whole torso instead of just your shoulders, you're able to keep a more steady and consistent pan with the car, no matter how fast they're going. If you're wearing a backpack with all your camera gear, this can also act as a decent side abdominal workout with enough reps
hahaha! screw crunches... just gonna do more panning




you guys heard of 6 minute abs??... well im gonna come out with a new one... its called 3 hr Pans.
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Old 10-12-2010, 02:12 PM   #4911
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hahaha! screw crunches... just gonna do more panning




you guys heard of 6 minute abs??... well im gonna come out with a new one... its called 3 hr Pans.
Perfect
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Old 10-12-2010, 02:16 PM   #4912
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Armin, wanted to share one more to get some insight. this was obviously shot a little bit faster... and i forget to photoshop out the dust speckle, which i know you will point out.

cropping ok? i shot out towards the least distracting area of the track. mid day lighting was harsh though!


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Old 10-12-2010, 03:26 PM   #4913
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Yea, i think his name was Kabir! That's so funny. I was out there for a family reunion and was just messing around practicing panning shots, and he saw me on the side of the road and came back to ask what I was doing, and I told him that I'm an amateur photog and loved his car, and he loved the picture. How did you recognize it as your former car?
Well first cuz its an 04 with 07 center caps and all 05+ emblems, the lip, and mostly because he started a thread about the car after he bought it lol. Nice shot btw.
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Old 10-12-2010, 04:12 PM   #4914
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hey armin, went to the track this weekend and tried to adhere to your critiques of my last track day shoot...let me know what you think....
no editing done...and photobucket sorta kills the quality, but you get the idea...







got a bunch more...only put a few on photobucket...
http://s797.photobucket.com/albums/yy252/subybeej/Octoberfest%20at%20VIR%202010/


let me know what you think. thanks in advance!
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Old 10-12-2010, 04:19 PM   #4915
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All yall will like this ! I pic 2 of these up, 1 for me and the other for my brothers BDAY. His is way more legit ! it says "made in japan" and has "canon" logos all in the right places, and for some reason mine doesn't hahaha
either way....enjoy




And here is a pic I took the other day
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Old 10-12-2010, 07:13 PM   #4916
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hmmm... I'm not sure if I ever posted these here, but I took these with my old camera (D40X) at 1/125 shutter speed. It's tough creating good composition, so I just center the car. Here's one example:

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Old 10-12-2010, 07:51 PM   #4917
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You know, I actually had a fleeting thought the other day...if I sold the 12-24mm ƒ4 and 17-55mm ƒ2.8, how long could I get by successfully with just a D700 (or other full frame Nikon), the new 24mm ƒ1.4, and my current 50mm ƒ1.4 and 85mm ƒ1.8? I'd keep my 70-20mm ƒ2.8 on my D300 since the range is longer anyway on the cropped sensor. Hmmmmmmmmm
Don't even dream it, the D700 would own your soul after using it for just a few hours, trust me, it's that good. Forgive me, but FF-FTW. I would, however, hold off on the 24 ƒ1.4 until some come into the used market.
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Old 10-12-2010, 09:39 PM   #4918
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D800......? Armin...?

I have two zooms (70-200 f/2.8 & 12-24 f/4) and 2 primes (50mm f/2.8 & 105mm f/2.8)... and then a kit lens (it doesn't count) I feel I've got a well balanced set of glass
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Old 10-12-2010, 09:43 PM   #4919
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Don't even dream it, the D700 would own your soul after using it for just a few hours, trust me, it's that good. Forgive me, but FF-FTW. I would, however, hold off on the 24 ƒ1.4 until some come into the used market.
I've got an old 24mm ƒ2 AIS lens that I'd kill to try on FF.
Loved it on film.

Hmm...
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Old 10-12-2010, 09:59 PM   #4920
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D800......? Armin...?

I have two zooms (70-200 f/2.8 & 12-24 f/4) and 2 primes (50mm f/2.8 & 105mm f/2.8)... and then a kit lens (it doesn't count) I feel I've got a well balanced set of glass
Is it the nikkor 50/2.8?
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Armin, wanted to share one more to get some insight. this was obviously shot a little bit faster... and i forget to photoshop out the dust speckle, which i know you will point out.

cropping ok? i shot out towards the least distracting area of the track. mid day lighting was harsh though!
Crop isn't bad, but the car could either be a little more toward the right or just make it a tighter crop overall. Couple examples from me:





It also looks like the focus wasn't quite tack-on either though
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Old 10-12-2010, 10:17 PM   #4922
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hey armin, went to the track this weekend and tried to adhere to your critiques of my last track day shoot...let me know what you think....
no editing done...and photobucket sorta kills the quality, but you get the idea...

let me know what you think. thanks in advance!
You've got the right idea on these, but they're all a tiny bit out of focus. What lens did you use for these? If you have VR on it, did you have it on? I would mention something about cropping them too, but you said they weren't edited, so no need
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All yall will like this ! I pic 2 of these up, 1 for me and the other for my brothers BDAY. His is way more legit ! it says "made in japan" and has "canon" logos all in the right places, and for some reason mine doesn't hahaha
either way....enjoy


And here is a pic I took the other day
Nice, they have a couple Nikon mugs like that too. Probably should've asked for one for a birthday gift, but I'd probably use it more for water than coffee (since I don't drink too much coffee anyway).

Your car photo is a good example of where not using a polarizer to get rid of reflections can actually be pretty cool. I don't really like the composition though...the R in the grille is a bit too close to being cut off, and it looks like part of the front bumper is already cut off.
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hmmm... I'm not sure if I ever posted these here, but I took these with my old camera (D40X) at 1/125 shutter speed. It's tough creating good composition, so I just center the car. Here's one example:
Not too shabby. Black cars can be challenging to capture properly to begin with, and then having to capture them while panning introduces a whole new set of challenges entirely You did pretty well though!

As far as compositions go, when it comes to panning shots, I ALWAYS do my crops in post processing. It's situations like this where a lot of megapixels actually DO help quite a bit.
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Don't even dream it, the D700 would own your soul after using it for just a few hours, trust me, it's that good. Forgive me, but FF-FTW. I would, however, hold off on the 24 É1.4 until some come into the used market.
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I have two zooms (70-200 f/2.8 & 12-24 f/4) and 2 primes (50mm f/2.8 & 105mm f/2.8)... and then a kit lens (it doesn't count) I feel I've got a well balanced set of glass
Yeah, the D800 is rumored for a February 2011 release according to NikonRumors.com. And yeah, I know I'm pretty covered as it is with my lenses, but moving to full frame presents new issues, such as selling my DX lenses. I'd still keep my D300 though for my second body at weddings and for shooting at the track (until I can afford the new 70-200mm É2.8 VR II of course).
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