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Old 07-07-2011, 02:44 AM   #7176
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My 1997 Impreza Brighton sitting bumper to bumper with my 1974 Ford Gran Torino Elite.
I like the idea you're going with here, but this photo suffers a lot from being both underexposed and not quite composed to its fullest potential. I would probably get a closer crop to only show the rear tails of each car, and not be so wide as to get the C-pillar of the Impreza. I also wouldn't have so much dirt ground in the shot...if this was shot with an attractive background in good lighting, it would be much better.
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Old 07-07-2011, 02:48 AM   #7177
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Hey guys, off topic, but there's a few of you here that I'd like to see this.
Put together a good size sample of shots from my first paid event last weekend, let me know what you think!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/max713p...7626995106223/
Good captures! I think your white balance is a little on the cool side for most of them, but the composition and shutter speed is perfect to catch the action.
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Old 07-07-2011, 02:53 AM   #7178
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Good captures! I think your white balance is a little on the cool side for most of them, but the composition and shutter speed is perfect to catch the action.
Thanks Armin!
You know, it seems that is my most often made mistake these days, forgetting about WB. I don't know how that's possible as it is so important, I don't know i think I get caught up in cropping, exposures, sharpening, every other aspect... I really need to start paying more attention to WB. Looking through the sample again, I'm seeing shots now that shout "What was I thinking!"
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Old 07-07-2011, 02:57 AM   #7179
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Just a few from the parade over the weekend.
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Max, I'm not sure what you're trying to show as the focus in each pic. They may look good to the average person, but they're not excellent.
In the first one, it seems like the only thing in focus is the word radial and a little of the rim.
In the second one, i'm not sure if I should look at the headlight, fog light or slot in the bumper. Also, the reflection on the hood bothers me.
Third pic, gauges or steering wheel?

You might want to look into the rule of thirds a little. Armin has some info at the beginning of this thread.
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Yes, I would agree with all those points, but I did plan on these issues coming in. I was very limited by my surroundings, was purely posting to get an idea of how I did with the limitations in place.
I would say I adhered with the rule of thirds in all but the third shot, the wheel in the first, the headlight in the second(pushing it with this one). The third was the most difficult, there was actually someone sitting in the drivers seat!

Lateral side shots (#1) are my weakness, I can never quite get the point of interest/focus right...Not sure what I should have done here, although I didn't have much room for movement. There was someone standing over the back left of the car, and another car directly out of frame left.
I wasn't really sure what to do with #2, thinking I may go for a little tighter crop on the headlight now though.
#3 was obviously extremely limited due to the person in the seat, but the goal was the focus on the gauges. Also, I only had my É3.5-4.5 lens on me, the depth of field was limited at 70mm É4.5, didn't want to stick my camera in the drivers face...
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Again, guys, with car-show pix, try to focus on something different, or interesting, or show something average in a different or interesting way. Don't think about it too much, just keep those things in mind.
Good advice from UL. I also agree with coldmm803 that each of the photos seems to lack a focal point for the viewer. You said that in the first shot, rule of thirds was on the wheel, but since the "radial" on the tire is what's sharpest, that's where my eye is drawn to first and foremost. For shots like this, it's often best to try to capture something more out of the ordinary. I would've probably put the center cap on the wheel at a thirds cross point and gone from there. The headlight shot just needs to move over to the right to make it look really good, and the gauge shot might just need a polite "excuse me, but would you mind if I took a photo of your gauges?" to the driver. If this is at an event/car show, it'll be pretty rare for someone to tell you no
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Old 07-07-2011, 03:00 AM   #7180
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Thanks Armin!
You know, it seems that is my most often made mistake these days, forgetting about WB. I don't know how that's possible as it is so important, I don't know i think I get caught up in cropping, exposures, sharpening, every other aspect... I really need to start paying more attention to WB. Looking through the sample again, I'm seeing shots now that shout "What was I thinking!"
This is one of the many reasons why I shoot in RAW. The very first part of my workflow in Lightroom is fixing the white balance on a photo. Nikon's auto white balance isn't bad, but it's always the very first thing I look at and fix if necessary when I start processing a photo.
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Old 07-07-2011, 03:12 AM   #7181
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This is one of the many reasons why I shoot in RAW. The very first part of my workflow in Lightroom is fixing the white balance on a photo. Nikon's auto white balance isn't bad, but it's always the very first thing I look at and fix if necessary when I start processing a photo.
That was one of the first things I ever learned from you, I always shoot in RAW, unless.... I'm shooting a big event
4000 RAW images just takes up WAY to much space, not to mention I only end up processing a small fraction of those images anyways (~40 in this case).

You know, aperture 3 even tries to make it easy for me. The very first thing on the tools list, is WB. It's like I'm trying to ignore it (I swear I'm really not)!

I think I'm going to really try to start paying better attention to this aspect.
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Old 07-07-2011, 03:20 AM   #7182
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That was one of the first things I ever learned from you, I always shoot in RAW, unless.... I'm shooting a big event
4000 RAW images just takes up WAY to much space, not to mention I only end up processing a small fraction of those images anyways (~40 in this case).

You know, aperture 3 even tries to make it easy for me. The very first thing on the tools list, is WB. It's like I'm trying to ignore it (I swear I'm really not)!

I think I'm going to really try to start paying better attention to this aspect.
4000 RAW images from one event? I've shot a full day's worth of weddings and racing and have barely pushed 1200 shots. That's including shooting in burst mode most of the time.
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Old 07-07-2011, 03:27 AM   #7183
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4000 RAW images from one event? I've shot a full day's worth of weddings and racing and have barely pushed 1200 shots. That's including shooting in burst mode most of the time.
Ok not 4000, I think my final shutter count was just under 3000 over the course of 3 days, and like I said I was not shooting RAW for that exact reason. I took 1646 shots my first day.
I had the camera on 4.5FPS, I was pretty nervous about my first shoot and got a bit trigger happy. I soon figured out more was not better, and that I actually usually missed the perfect shot when just relying on burst to catch it.
Never the less, I was shooting from 8am to 6pm everyday, with anear constant stream of riders to cover.

I leave at noon tomorrow for my next event in Oak harbor. Right in your neighborhood Armin! Will be back Sunday, we'll see what I've learned since my first...

Oh, and I'm looking at a minty 70-200 ƒ2.8 VRI with RRS foot on my way up, asking price of $1400
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Old 07-07-2011, 03:32 AM   #7184
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Ok not 4000, I think my final shutter count was just under 3000 over the course of 3 days, and like I said I was not shooting RAW for that exact reason. I took 1646 shots my first day.
I had the camera on 4.5FPS, I was pretty nervous about my first shoot and got a bit trigger happy. I soon figured out more was not better, and that I actually usually missed the perfect shot when just relying on burst to catch it.
Never the less, I was shooting from 8am to 6pm everyday, with anear constant stream of riders to cover.

I leave at noon tomorrow for my next event in Oak harbor. Right in your neighborhood Armin! Will be back Sunday, we'll see what I've learned since my first...

Oh, and I'm looking at a minty 70-200 É2.8 VRI with RRS foot on my way up, asking price of $1400
Ahhh, I see. Yeah, definitely next time try to be a little more selective in your shots And Oak Harbor is at least 2 hours away from me, so not quite my neighborhood

Good price on the VR1 too!
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Old 07-07-2011, 03:41 AM   #7185
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Ahhh, I see. Yeah, definitely next time try to be a little more selective in your shots And Oak Harbor is at least 2 hours away from me, so not quite my neighborhood

Good price on the VR1 too!
Definitely, my D90 is not going to be happy with me if I keep that up haha.
Didn't realize O.H. was so far from you, oh well, it sure is closer than Oregon haha.

I know it! Just saw a VR1 go for $1800 on ebay last night... These prices are just freaking insane these days... My 28-70 É2.8 will have to wait a WHILE.
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Old 07-07-2011, 07:07 AM   #7186
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Again, guys, with car-show pix, try to focus on something different, or interesting, or show something average in a different or interesting way. Don't think about it too much, just keep those things in mind.
Shooting at car shows is tough. The lighting is usually terrible and there is a ton of stuff in the way. Almost everything good you can come up with is really close detail.

Here are a couple of mine.





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Old 07-07-2011, 05:17 PM   #7187
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Woo!! Minty fresh with all original accessories, $1400!
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Old 07-07-2011, 06:32 PM   #7188
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Old 07-07-2011, 07:04 PM   #7189
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Thanks andrew, im pretty dam excited about it. Its going to get a ton of use this weekend.
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Old 07-07-2011, 11:27 PM   #7190
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Not bad at all for a P&S! Composition looks pretty good, but I probably would've had the car at tiny bit lower in the frame. It also looks like there's a remnant of something that you cloned out of the photo, as there's some sort of dark grey band arching over the car like a rainbow, but it's not smooth. Did you get rid of something there? Oh, and don't forget to turn the wheels to face the camera.
ya i noticed the smug above car afterwards idk what it is from though. and i realized wheel wasnt turned after left the spot and what not. thank you for the advice and input i wanna get better then move up to a dslr.

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Old 07-08-2011, 03:34 AM   #7191
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Both of these are absolutely excellent. I agree with UL that the first one could've been a little wider, but they both still deserve the stamp to me.

Thanxs for the stamp Armin ; ) Will post some more this Weekend.
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Old 07-09-2011, 03:50 AM   #7192
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^ Well deserved Cris, sick pictures!
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Hows these







These were shot in complete dark. Either with a flashlight light painting or firing the flash 3-4 times.
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last one is the best, but white gets a bit blown out.
also, the driver side a-pillar has too much light on it
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^Absolutely stunning scenery!
My only criticisms would be 1) having the car pointing out of frame. I think it would've been nicer on the LHS of pic, pointing 'in', but I don't know what you had to work with at your spot/if you could've made that work; 2) being slightly blown out down the side/rear 3) maybe a little bit more contrast just to make everything 'pop' a bit more.

Either way, it's all very easy to sit here and criticise; fantastic job, love it!

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My turn in the firing line, yet another wet and windy track day. Haven't edited the whole bunch yet as I'm at the old's on holidays, and the 2004 Acer laptop (recently upgraded to a whole 1GB of ram) is deep in struggle town with Lightroom
But I was happy enough with these few. Please excuse the daggy/ugly copyrighting, I'm away from my main PC, but needed something that would stop people from stealing them (as they tend to do ) Self-C&C included below:


1. I really need to put this one through Photoshop and remove the white Evo from bits sticking out from behind the bonnet/windscreen, but as above, the laptop isn't up to spec for that kind of tinkering, I'll repost the finished version at a later date. I realise it could've been avoided by getting moar low, but the opportunity window was closing fast with the helmet-carrying person driver quickly getting away. Otherwise, I quite like it.




2. This guy figured fast laps were never going to happen in the wet anyway, so was intentionally playing up for the camera; made for fantastic amusement and photo opportunity. It's a pretty tight/slow corner, and combined with the angle I was at, there wasn't a whole lot of panning, which makes it lose that sensation of movement/speed. In hindsight, I supposed I could've come closer to the corner to force more pan, but I think you would've lost how much angle was on the car



3. Not 100% sharp, but I think it still works. I was trying something different and using the 200mm quite close to the track at an acute angle. It was difficult to get sharp shots (especially with the slow focusing push-pull Nikkor 80-200), but again, I think it turned out ok. C&C more than welcome.




4-6. Other panning shots from the day. Trying to get slower and slower with the shutter for more pan. 1x 1/50th and 2x 1/40th. It's true what they say - you only get better with practice.

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This shot is just short of fantastic, with a nearly flawless composition (just a wee bit tight on the right side). I love the desaturation as well, but as much as it helps you in the background, it hurts you in the foreground. I really could choke you for the license plate though, such a shot deserves 2 minutes for you to remove it, but I don't know you, so you live for now . I probably would have removed the taller grass in front of the car, polarized the windows, and burned the rear quarter a bit, but it's still an extremely nice shot.
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