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Old 10-06-2011, 10:49 AM   #7601
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Hard light when I took this, lightroom comes in tomarrow so I edited this on my iPhone with the photoshop app, it's pretty saturated lol, any tips on composition and the shot itself?
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Old 10-06-2011, 11:18 AM   #7602
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I did shots at lower f/ and didn't like how they came out, which could of course be a product of it being a different shot. My ISO was 400 all night.

And how can you see my settings??
Magic... lol

your EXIF is embedded in the picture. So I downloaded the picture and viewed the information.

I would start with a 4. or 5.6 f/stop and roll the iso up to 800 or so... then find a faster shutter speed to capture the crispness you want. I am sure there are otherways to get what you are looking for. This is how I would go about it, I'm sure someone with more experience will comment with greater detail..
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Old 10-06-2011, 11:47 AM   #7603
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So typically, a lower Fstop results in a more crisp photo?
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Old 10-06-2011, 01:50 PM   #7604
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So typically, a lower Fstop results in a more crisp photo?
not completely. The F/ is the depth of the focus of a picture, you were shooting in low light with an absolute set on your iso (400 iirc) so you began to increase the shutter time to allow more light, correct? The f/ of 9 at night is going to mean you are going to need more light than if you were at 3.5 or at 4. I believe that having a shutter time of 1.6 seconds allows for too many variations to happen (think of all the things that can happen in 1.6 seconds. Some sort of micro motion can happen and create just a glimpse of blur or "uncrisp" pictures.)

So what I was suggesting, and someone correct me if I'm wrong. You can let in adequate light by adjusting your f/ to a lower aperture; thus resulting in needing less shutter time. Increasing the ISO will act like increasing the contrast on your monitor to help bring the light up.

In action pictures, a higher f/ will make the overall picture more crisp (removing bokeh) but requires more light and faster shutter speeds. Its a balance.
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Old 10-06-2011, 02:42 PM   #7605
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what do you think armin? I know they are nothing special, but I just picked up a D5100 a few weeks ago and I'm still a noob using lightroom.

A couple of my friends cars


and my fav
I'd say your fav is also my fav of the bunch I'm not really sure what you're trying to really focus on in the first photo, but the other two are good. The main thing though is that you've got some really blown out highlights, and I would try to avoid relying on the Recovery tool in Lightroom to fix those, since it tends to give everything a very unnatural, plastic look.
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Old 10-06-2011, 02:46 PM   #7606
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I just got lightroom!

Thoughts?
Yeah, other than removing yourself from the reflection, the photo doesn't seem straight. Typically in a photo like this, you want everything to be symmetrical and perfectly level...it looks like the passenger side of the car is a little higher than the driver side.
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Old 10-06-2011, 02:55 PM   #7607
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I love your wheels. I like the low elevation, but it might be just a little too much neck-turning angle. The sky is really overexposed too...just a tough situation overall to shoot.
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Old 10-06-2011, 02:59 PM   #7608
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i had the opportunity to shoot sunset tonight... i was watching the orange clouds from my window at home, and i couldnt just sit there and watch it go by... drove down the street and snapped a few shots... this was my favorite from the set.. i usually tone my images on the cool side, but i felt the warmer feel really gave this the punch it needed.
Beautiful. There's nothing else to say.

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Old 10-06-2011, 03:03 PM   #7609
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Not sure if I posted this in here, but Formula Drifts are so fun to shoot it should be illegal.
If someone were to ask me what's an example of an excellent drifting photo, this would be one that I'd use. Killin' them, dude!

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Old 10-06-2011, 03:13 PM   #7610
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w000t stamp. You've only stamped my drift shots...
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Old 10-06-2011, 03:15 PM   #7611
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I get a total kick out of the whole "stamp" thing. Hilarious.
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Old 10-06-2011, 03:19 PM   #7612
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Thoughts? Criticisms? My photo's never seem as "crisp" as I want them to be.
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^^ obvious questions about crispness. Are you using a remote shutter release? I assume you are using a tripod (I can't imagine holding your camera that still for almost 2 seconds).

Also wondering why you are shooting at f/9? Maybe you can gain some crispness by shooting at 4 or 5.6 with less exposure time and a higher iso (if needed)? I'm asking more than suggesting.

I think the pictures are good, the whites are a little overexposed (pics 1 and 3) but making use of a little light in the darkness, I'm sure you have to take the good with the bad.

Gives me ideas for things to do for myself.
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I did shots at lower f/ and didn't like how they came out, which could of course be a product of it being a different shot. My ISO was 400 all night.

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Magic... lol

your EXIF is embedded in the picture. So I downloaded the picture and viewed the information.

I would start with a 4. or 5.6 f/stop and roll the iso up to 800 or so... then find a faster shutter speed to capture the crispness you want. I am sure there are otherways to get what you are looking for. This is how I would go about it, I'm sure someone with more experience will comment with greater detail..
The whites are indeed a bit overexposed, but turning up the ISO is totally incorrect to achieve more crispness/sharpness. When you turn up the ISO, you're adding more voltage to the sensor, which thus causes noise. This noise is going to make your photos less crisp/sharp, and typically will require some noise reduction, which also makes your photos less crisp/sharp. Since you're shooting on a tripod already, what you want to do is use a lower ISO (like 100 or 200) and lengthen the shutter speed to let in more light.

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not completely. The F/ is the depth of the focus of a picture, you were shooting in low light with an absolute set on your iso (400 iirc) so you began to increase the shutter time to allow more light, correct? The f/ of 9 at night is going to mean you are going to need more light than if you were at 3.5 or at 4. I believe that having a shutter time of 1.6 seconds allows for too many variations to happen (think of all the things that can happen in 1.6 seconds. Some sort of micro motion can happen and create just a glimpse of blur or "uncrisp" pictures.)

So what I was suggesting, and someone correct me if I'm wrong. You can let in adequate light by adjusting your f/ to a lower aperture; thus resulting in needing less shutter time. Increasing the ISO will act like increasing the contrast on your monitor to help bring the light up.

In action pictures, a higher f/ will make the overall picture more crisp (removing bokeh) but requires more light and faster shutter speeds. Its a balance.
Opening the aperture is also incorrect too. É9 is a perfectly fine aperture to shoot these at if you want everything to be sharp. If you just want the car to be sharp and blur out everything else, then yes a wider aperture will work better. However, almost all lenses have a sweet spot between É8 and f11 where they are the most sharp.

There's also nothing wrong with a longer shutter speed, so long as the tripod is stable enough. You can't tell me this isn't a crisp shot at 15 seconds and É11:

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Old 10-06-2011, 03:32 PM   #7613
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Hard light when I took this, lightroom comes in tomarrow so I edited this on my iPhone with the photoshop app, it's pretty saturated lol, any tips on composition and the shot itself?
Yeah, lighting is really harsh. Composition looks pretty good, but the angle of the trees in the background makes me want to believe that the car isn't level...not sure if that's something you can really fix though. It definitely looks overexposed, but compositionally it looks good
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Old 10-06-2011, 03:33 PM   #7614
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w000t stamp. You've only stamped my drift shots...
You need to fix your camera's still-shot focusing
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Old 10-06-2011, 03:53 PM   #7615
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The whites are indeed a bit overexposed, but turning up the ISO is totally incorrect to achieve more crispness/sharpness. When you turn up the ISO, you're adding more voltage to the sensor, which thus causes noise. This noise is going to make your photos less crisp/sharp, and typically will require some noise reduction, which also makes your photos less crisp/sharp. Since you're shooting on a tripod already, what you want to do is use a lower ISO (like 100 or 200) and lengthen the shutter speed to let in more light.

Opening the aperture is also incorrect too. É9 is a perfectly fine aperture to shoot these at if you want everything to be sharp. If you just want the car to be sharp and blur out everything else, then yes a wider aperture will work better. However, almost all lenses have a sweet spot between É8 and f11 where they are the most sharp.

There's also nothing wrong with a longer shutter speed, so long as the tripod is stable enough. You can't tell me this isn't a crisp shot at 15 seconds and É11:
Thanks for addressing all of that for me! I will try a similar shot but at 100/200 ISO and do a longer shutter speed. I think I'm getting a bit better, most of my raw shot's look pretty solid, its just the angling/lining everything up I need to work on and the editing bit. I want to keep my editing as minimal as possible.
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Old 10-06-2011, 03:54 PM   #7616
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Haven't been in here for a while. Looks like some great shots, and also some good technical discussions

I figured I would share a few recent shots. Feel free to comment or critique.

Some outdoor shots with natural lighting:







Playing around with textures:



A few studio shots (Blouch 20G-XT-R):





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Old 10-06-2011, 05:26 PM   #7617
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I love your wheels. I like the low elevation, but it might be just a little too much neck-turning angle. The sky is really overexposed too...just a tough situation overall to shoot.
Ya that is what you get for a quick shot with little to no editing...Once I get some free time after this class I will do a proper shoot again...Not to mention this is the first time I have used my camera in like a year
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Old 10-08-2011, 12:59 PM   #7618
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First time my little brother rinsed his car off, figured it was worth taking a picture of, first set of pictures I ever took with my 50mm and 60d, I really like this one

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Old 10-09-2011, 08:57 PM   #7619
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:52 PM   #7620
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my first official drift shot, man this is one of my favorites (out of mannny) ill give it to you guys though, fast paced car drifting is NOT an easy panning shot. eeeek! RESPEC!

Nikkor 24-70mm @ 70mm, f6.3
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Old 10-09-2011, 10:25 PM   #7621
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Buddy of mine got an 86 Porsche 944. Went out for some shots. Did some post-processing in Lightroom. Any advice is welcome!






I wanted this one to look like an old add or something:


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Old 10-10-2011, 04:26 AM   #7622
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my first official drift shot, man this is one of my favorites (out of mannny) ill give it to you guys though, fast paced car drifting is NOT an easy panning shot. eeeek! RESPEC!

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Sick panning shot, Andy! Iggy approved lmao
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Old 10-12-2011, 02:17 PM   #7623
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Yup, that shot's fantastic.
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Old 10-12-2011, 02:45 PM   #7624
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Thanks guys. i really give a lot of props to Armin for his shooting FD events. panning a car that is rotating on axis is NOT easy.
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Old 10-12-2011, 03:07 PM   #7625
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Thanks guys. i really give a lot of props to Armin for his shooting FD events. panning a car that is rotating on axis is NOT easy.
Is the garret?
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