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Old 03-21-2012, 01:44 PM   #8376
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I understand and agree, my apologies.

I tell people that I am Armin, just so I can get free drinks at the VFW (Sometimes I don't have to bring a camera).
I thought we might be on the same page!
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Old 03-21-2012, 06:59 PM   #8377
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This might just be me being "that guy" but you probably shouldn't watermark your images with "photography" if you are just learning and starting out shooting. I have been playing with cameras for years and I don't even feel like my images have the right to bear a photography watermark.

Save that for the pros...
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I agree; however, I have found some pictures of my car that I took on different websites all over (We know its not because I am an epic photographer). It pissed me off that pictures are so easily "borrowed" for others to use for anything. I started putting my name on them as a watermark if the picture was good enough that it might be shared... I use the term "good" very loosely.

I say put your effort in your pictures, but protect your property.
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I'm not arguing that you shouldn't watermark your pictures with your name...just using photography in it like you are a pro is a stretch. It is almost as if some people (not saying you specifically...just in general) think they can call themselves a photographer or have a branded photography name on their pictures just because they have a fancy camera.

I know guys that can take iPhone pictures much better than anything I have ever taken.
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I understand and agree, my apologies.

I tell people that I am Armin, just so I can get free drinks at the VFW (Sometimes I don't have to bring a camera).
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I thought we might be on the same page!
Yeah, I firmly in the "do watermark" camp, just to make sure your photos aren't used without your permission. Even still, some companies have no problem just cropping your watermarks out, but at least having your watermark there to begin with is more than nothing at all. I also agree with the lack of "photography" in the watermark too, but then again I don't even have that word in my own watermark these days.

PS: Free drinks? I actually owe another photographer a 6-pack! I don't get free drinks
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Old 03-21-2012, 07:04 PM   #8378
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Yeah, I firmly in the "do watermark" camp, just to make sure your photos aren't used without your permission. Even still, some companies have no problem just cropping your watermarks out, but at least having your watermark there to begin with is more than nothing at all. I also agree with the lack of "photography" in the watermark too, but then again I don't even have that word in my own watermark these days.

PS: Free drinks? I actually owe another photographer a 6-pack! I don't get free drinks
you owe Mackey a 6'er? you're going to owe me one too (after i return with awesomeness from LBFD)
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Old 03-21-2012, 07:05 PM   #8379
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I mark my photos with a small signature. Nothing more, just 3 letters "R3V". Simple and marks it as mine.
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Old 03-21-2012, 07:12 PM   #8380
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had as seriously dense fog last night,tried to capture pictures, but it doesn't come out as good in some cases like this:


suggestions please, was using a tripod, 35mm 1.8 with f-stop 8-13 at times. ISO200


and some of the better ones from the day


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You've got a ton of photos here. It's a lot easier for me to critique 3 at the most at one time. Nevertheless...

Shooting in thick fog is always pretty fun to me. The problem though is that with fog and being at night, you need to really use longer shutter speeds to get the right exposure. I'd say each of your fog photos needs more exposure and your white balance in the second photo doesn't match the other two. The first photo also looks like the pillars holding up the building are growing out of your car.

The other issue with your fog photos carries over to your daytime photos...I think you've oversaturated a bit. In the second fog photo, there's a blue light above the car that is way oversaturated, looking like it's bleeding into the fog. In the daytime photos, the blue is really strong, as is the red. On top of that, you've got a bit of a blown out sky, which is causing bands of weird colors. Your second daytime photo has a tree growing out of the car, and your last photo looks like the car's just chopped in half.
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Old 03-21-2012, 07:13 PM   #8381
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you owe Mackey a 6'er? you're going to owe me one too (after i return with awesomeness from LBFD)
Mackey still owes me one of his books. I actually owe Steve Demmitt a 6-pack after he shared beers with me on the track at Formula D Seattle back in 2006
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Old 03-21-2012, 09:52 PM   #8382
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canon rebel eos t1i with 18-5mm lens. pretty gloomy day had the iso from 120-600 in this pictures. im pretty new to this, I have been reading the owners manual ALOT though. Has helped a good amount so far.






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Old 03-21-2012, 10:07 PM   #8383
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Here's a new one of my car. Shot with the Canon 5D and 135L.



I do quite a bit of photography but I don't watermark all of it. If I am shooting for print sales then I certainly will. If it's just pictures of my own car, then I don't. Pretty hard for someone else to claim they took a photo of my car.
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Old 03-23-2012, 07:46 PM   #8384
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canon rebel eos t1i with 18-5mm lens. pretty gloomy day had the iso from 120-600 in this pictures. im pretty new to this, I have been reading the owners manual ALOT though. Has helped a good amount so far.

comparison here.
Again, you've got a ton of photos here. It's a lot easier for me to critique 3 at the most at one time. Nevertheless...

It's good to see not everything centered in the frame, but overall I'd say your strongest shot is the one that actually is centered in the frame, not because of the composition, but because of where the car is actually placed. Having the car on the road is much stronger than being on the side of the road. With the road the way it is, don't be afraid to zoom in or get closer. The wide **** is decent but those are the kind of shots where a more zoomed in shot with some blurred background can look really good. That one's also the only one where your cars are turned to face the camera. Keep working on your composition and then you can start to worry about any processing later.

As for your landscapes, you definitely want to make sure your horizon is level.
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Old 03-23-2012, 07:52 PM   #8385
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Here's a new one of my car. Shot with the Canon 5D and 135L.

I do quite a bit of photography but I don't watermark all of it. If I am shooting for print sales then I certainly will. If it's just pictures of my own car, then I don't. Pretty hard for someone else to claim they took a photo of my car.
Good clean shot, but I think it'd look better with a polarized windshield I probably would've used a warmer white balance too.

As for watermarks, it's not so much that someone else will claim they took a photo of your car, but more that a photo of your car that you took could be used for an unintended purpose. There was a NASIOC vendor that took one of my photos, cropped out the watermark, and tried to sell knock-off body kits with the photo. I called them out and ultimately had the photos removed. Sadly, stuff like this happens all the time in the automotive world.
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Old 03-23-2012, 07:56 PM   #8386
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For anyone interested, I made a new friend at my local Subaru dealership the other day

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Old 03-23-2012, 08:18 PM   #8387
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Hey, enjoyed the write up, great thread. I'm new to photgraphy and am shooting with a Canon Rebel T2i with a 18-55mm lens. Here's a few photos and all suggestions and opiions are welcome.








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Old 03-23-2012, 08:59 PM   #8388
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Good clean shot, but I think it'd look better with a polarized windshield I probably would've used a warmer white balance too.
Good point on the polarizer. I really need to do that. That shot had the saturation cranked way down. I like the effect in some shots. This one didn't change much so I probably just could have left it.
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Old 03-25-2012, 05:00 PM   #8389
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Been awhile...fair amount of tweaking in lightroom but I think I nailed the "grungy" look I was going for.

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Old 03-25-2012, 10:28 PM   #8390
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I have not gone out and shot for quite a while and feel a little rusty. We ended up doing a few rig shots and I did some still shots of my car. I wanted to try and do two shots with my CPL to work on the reflections on both the hood and side of the car but ended up moving the tripod a little and it did not work out... It also ended up raining on us while we were out there but made for a different look and I actually did not mind...Critique and help appreciated...


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Old 03-26-2012, 01:37 PM   #8391
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Hey, enjoyed the write up, great thread. I'm new to photgraphy and am shooting with a Canon Rebel T2i with a 18-55mm lens. Here's a few photos and all suggestions and opiions are welcome.
You're definitely off to a good start! I like your different angles, different elevations, and overall composition. Don't forget to turn those wheels to face the camera in the first shot, and really all you need from here is a better location to shoot the car. Your last photo is a decent desaturation, however the rear window still has color, so it looks rather odd. I like the angle a lot though!
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Old 03-26-2012, 01:39 PM   #8392
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Good point on the polarizer. I really need to do that. That shot had the saturation cranked way down. I like the effect in some shots. This one didn't change much so I probably just could have left it.
As someone who always had a tendency for too much saturation, I've really welcomed the desaturated look with open arms these days. I find though that desaturation often works best with some curves adjustment to bring out edges and shadows, for example:

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Old 03-26-2012, 01:42 PM   #8393
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Been awhile...fair amount of tweaking in lightroom but I think I nailed the "grungy" look I was going for.
It's definitely grungy, but the first thought I had was "where's the car?" Since it's covered up by all the grass and such, it seems like it wasn't supposed to be in the photo to begin with.
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I have not gone out and shot for quite a while and feel a little rusty. We ended up doing a few rig shots and I did some still shots of my car. I wanted to try and do two shots with my CPL to work on the reflections on both the hood and side of the car but ended up moving the tripod a little and it did not work out... It also ended up raining on us while we were out there but made for a different look and I actually did not mind...Critique and help appreciated...
Rig shots look pretty good, but be careful about cutting things off (the rear driver's side tail light in the second shot) and you might need a bit darker ND filter + polarizer for the WRX shot because of the glare on the windshield. Your static shots are good, but you definitely need that windshield polarized in the last two full car shots. Overall, I'd say the one thing that bugs me is that your contrast is really really high...there are way too many blacks than necessary, so you're losing shadow detail in almost every shot.
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It's definitely grungy, but the first thought I had was "where's the car?" Since it's covered up by all the grass and such, it seems like it wasn't supposed to be in the photo to begin with.
I agree, a like 10% or so less grass would have been better for what I was going for.
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You're definitely off to a good start! I like your different angles, different elevations, and overall composition. Don't forget to turn those wheels to face the camera in the first shot, and really all you need from here is a better location to shoot the car. Your last photo is a decent desaturation, however the rear window still has color, so it looks rather odd. I like the angle a lot though!
Thanks! I'm trying to learn as much as possible. What would you recommend as a lens upgrade? Should I go a better zoom or just a better quality lens? I would like a lens with a lower f-stop but they can be quiet pricey. Thanks for the advice.
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Thanks! I'm trying to learn as much as possible. What would you recommend as a lens upgrade? Should I go a better zoom or just a better quality lens? I would like a lens with a lower f-stop but they can be quiet pricey. Thanks for the advice.
Typically my first recommendation for a new lens is a 50mm É1.8. You can usually find one brand new for around $100 and since it's a prime lens, it's good for really improving your composition skills. On top of that, you can get some nice thin depth of field with the lower f-stop. After that, usually a telephoto lens is where I'd go next. As I mentioned on the previous page, there's no reason to switch out your current kit lens until you've definitely outgrown its capabilities.
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Typically my first recommendation for a new lens is a 50mm É1.8. You can usually find one brand new for around $100 and since it's a prime lens, it's good for really improving your composition skills. On top of that, you can get some nice thin depth of field with the lower f-stop. After that, usually a telephoto lens is where I'd go next. As I mentioned on the previous page, there's no reason to switch out your current kit lens until you've definitely outgrown its capabilities.
I think it is easy to get into the "if I just had that lens I...my pictures would be better" when people are just starting out. The reality is that the kit lens that comes with most DSLR packages is pretty damn capable. Lighting and composition are the hard parts!
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Where can I get a lens for a 100 bucks?! All the lenses I have been looking at are at least 400 dollars and up. How much can I really accomplish with my currrent set up?
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Where can I get a lens for a 100 bucks?! All the lenses I have been looking at are at least 400 dollars and up. How much can I really accomplish with my currrent set up?
Nikon -->
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Amazon.com: Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II Camera Lens: ElectronicsAmazon.com: Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II Camera Lens: Electronics

I have had great luck with Adorama and B and H Photo in the past as well.
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