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Old 09-02-2012, 02:58 PM   #9376
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I am going to keep trying at it. That can only make me get better at it right?!

I typically go way out of my way during composition to make sure I won't have to photoshop a lot...especially with rig shots as you can't get away from the rig. My Photoshop skills are actually pretty limited but I guess that is a good thing in some situations. I think a lot of people on here think that the good shots we do post are a byproduct of good post editing skills (or a fancy camera) and not getting the right shot. Crap in...crap out...regardless of editing ability. Most of my shots are completely edited in Lightroom.

Thanks for the tips. I'll try masking the car and seeing if I can't do something about cloning out the rest while still keeping it natural looking.
I have a similar philosophy. Quite a few people still believe I do "too much editing," especially when it comes to my drift photos, but then I always tell them "You know, I processed all 100-150 photos you see here in Lightroom and Lightroom alone. It's not my post processing that makes them quality photos...they started that way with basic fundamentals." Nevertheless, people will still talk, and of course they get even more mad when I actually do apply an hour or more of post processing in Photoshop.

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A couple more from yesterday. I basically just stood at 10a and 10b and worked on my panning technique since I wasn't driving this weekend.. Some of them have a little bit of softness on the rear or front of the car...I need to work on it just a little bit more but I am starting to come home with more usable shots which is a good thing.
These are all pretty good. In the first two shots, could you possibly have had the car on the left side of the frame so that it looks like it's leaving, but have the entirety of the track behind it all connected? I know that usually you want to have the car pointing into the frame, but when you have a nice path showing where the car has been and how it's traveled, that also works just as well, if not better. Usually with drift photos, that's how you want it to work since the smoke tells more of the story. Here's an example from last weekend:



As far as softness on the front or rear, that's only natural. Generally though if the car is coming toward you, you want the front of the car to be sharpest, and if it's going away, the rear of the car should be sharpest.
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Old 09-02-2012, 03:05 PM   #9377
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I call this the "VisualEchos" style.

Sorry...I know I am posting a lot of pictures. I am sitting here editing all morning while my son plays next to me and my wife is studying for her PE exam...
Compositionally, this one isn't really doing it for me. The car's in the shadow of the wall, at the center top of the frame and the driver with the helmet on doesn't really make sense contextually with the rest of the photo. The car having dark tones in the shadow also doesn't help either, since it doesn't stand out very much.
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Old 09-02-2012, 03:14 PM   #9378
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played with this one a bit more.
Something is whacky about each of these photos. The first one has a polarized windshield, but the hood isn't polarized. The colors in the background are also a bit extreme and almost too HDR-ish to me. The second photo is decent, but I don't like the tree growing out of the car and I'd clone out the distracting street lamps. The last two photos are strange to me because the hood and windshield are polarized, but your headlights aren't and thus they look hazy. Perhaps another polarization for those or simply just darkening the headlights in post processing will go a long way for those.
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Old 09-02-2012, 03:18 PM   #9379
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I went a new direction with my editing just to try it out. Better or worse than my usual style?
I like this direction, but if anything I think you should straighten the photo so that those vertical lines on the container box behind the car are indeed vertical. Since they're leaning a bit to the right, it looks like the whole photo is leaning that way. The car, exposure, and polarizations look pretty good, but now you just gotta clean up some of the reflections, particularly in the front bumper.
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Old 09-02-2012, 03:23 PM   #9380
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Hi all, been hovering around this forum and have been reading up on these great tips for photography. Still a noob. Here are some pictures I took this weekend of my buddy's Fiat 500. Shot with a Nikdon D90 35mm. Edited with lightroom.


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Welcome! Looks good for a n00b The first shot is actually quite nice, especially for only being edited in LR. I wish it was a little bit sharper overall, but the composition is pretty solid. I don't like how the second photo is like a 50/50 split and that the last two photos are pretty centered. The close-up of the Fiat logo in particular lacks a focus point, and would be a lot better if you followed rule of thirds.
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Old 09-02-2012, 03:27 PM   #9381
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I had some fun today with a 800+ whp GT-R that a friend of mine just got built. I didn't get to pick the time or location, but luckily it was overcast because the white would have been really tough to manage in direct sunlight.
Pretty solid shot given the location. I would've added a polarization for the side of the car, and I would've used a warmer white balance overall. Despite the overcast skies, you still have to be careful not to blow out the white...it's pretty close.
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Old 09-02-2012, 03:30 PM   #9382
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had a little fun last night
Nice long exposures, but the mixed lighting is causing some major white balance problems in your second shot. I also don't like how the long exposure has overexposed the lighting on the fountain, since it's caused a loss of detail. The car's also way too close to the corner of the frame in both shots, making the car less of a subject and more of an afterthought compared to the rest of the scene.
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Old 09-02-2012, 03:35 PM   #9383
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I have too many pictures on this page...but I have to add one more from today.
Nice car, but the white on the hood is a little blown out, the windshield needs some polarization, and the vignetting is leaking on to the doors. Just a few changes might make this one quite good.
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Old 09-02-2012, 03:37 PM   #9384
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i'll help you break it up, nice shots btw.
Each of these shots, except for the front face shot, have a bit of strange softness to them. The compositions are pretty good, but in your front and rear face shots, you've got to make sure you're completely squared up with the center of the car and the car's level.
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Old 09-02-2012, 03:42 PM   #9385
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I think I may have more than you...
Looking good on these. Your last one is your strongest, but I wish the driver's side of the car wasn't so dark. Your second one would be better if you had the car on the left side of the frame, with the dirt road extending behind it and toward the right to give it more context. The first photo is pretty good, but I don't like the reflections on the driver's side windows. Overall, I'd also suggest to take it easy on the vignetting. There's a time and place for it, but when you've got elements on the scene that are extending to the edges (like the road), the vignetting isn't a good thing.
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Old 09-02-2012, 03:45 PM   #9386
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thoughts on these? I only just got Lightroom and using a 550D so really n00b but thought I'd give it a go!


Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Yeah, your background in the last shot has way too many distractions. Too many things are growing out of the car, causing the car to just get lost with all the lines going everywhere. Overall your photos are a bit underexposed and are lacking punch. Correcting the exposure and adding a little saturation would go a long way. I would've used a lower elevation and had the car on the left side of the frame in the second shot, with the wheels turned to face the camera. On top of that, the passenger window is rolled down half-way...you're going to want to make sure all the windows are rolled up.
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Old 09-02-2012, 04:19 PM   #9387
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Nice car, but the white on the hood is a little blown out, the windshield needs some polarization, and the vignetting is leaking on to the doors. Just a few changes might make this one quite good.
Thanks for all of the feedback. I know it takes a lot of time to go through all of these and give your points/recommendations. It really does help people from all skill levels get better.

I am going to see if I can go through the track shots and make an exit version. I did that with every one of them when we shot Formula Drift at Road Atlanta just like you described above.

Here is two of my favorites from this morning. Caffeine and Octane is incredibly hard to shoot due to the fact it is a public car get together/show. I was purposefully trying to practice with using the sun rising in the background rather than using it for warm light behind me.


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I absolutely love this picture! beautiful color and perspective imo.
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Old 09-02-2012, 04:33 PM   #9389
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Thanks for all of the feedback. I know it takes a lot of time to go through all of these and give your points/recommendations. It really does help people from all skill levels get better.

I am going to see if I can go through the track shots and make an exit version. I did that with every one of them when we shot Formula Drift at Road Atlanta just like you described above.

Here is two of my favorites from this morning. Caffeine and Octane is incredibly hard to shoot due to the fact it is a public car get together/show. I was purposefully trying to practice with using the sun rising in the background rather than using it for warm light behind me.
I like the second one the best out of the two. The first one has some bad lens flare, and I don't like how the sign isn't up on the car. They're both clean shots though and you've made good use of light, just gotta be careful with that lens flare.
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Welcome! Looks good for a n00b The first shot is actually quite nice, especially for only being edited in LR. I wish it was a little bit sharper overall, but the composition is pretty solid. I don't like how the second photo is like a 50/50 split and that the last two photos are pretty centered. The close-up of the Fiat logo in particular lacks a focus point, and would be a lot better if you followed rule of thirds.
Thank you. Your tips are always great!
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Can anyone give me some advice on what would make these shots better. All were shot with a Nikon D5100 with a 10-24 f/3.5-4.5 during the middle of the day and edited with Lightroom 3. I am a noob photographer so any help is appreciated.

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fircrest 1 by graphite_subaru, on Flickr

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Old 09-03-2012, 11:12 AM   #9392
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Looking good on these. Your last one is your strongest, but I wish the driver's side of the car wasn't so dark. Your second one would be better if you had the car on the left side of the frame, with the dirt road extending behind it and toward the right to give it more context. The first photo is pretty good, but I don't like the reflections on the driver's side windows. Overall, I'd also suggest to take it easy on the vignetting. There's a time and place for it, but when you've got elements on the scene that are extending to the edges (like the road), the vignetting isn't a good thing.
Thanks for the advice! I didn't have the time I wanted to at that location because it was getting dark. I'm going to go back there soon and work at it some more.
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Here's the other one I liked. I know the car is on the smaller side compared to the background but I think it works well. I also like that you can see the road go "through" the car and follow it out the back. I feel that not doing multiple polarizations is holding me back a little bit. That might be the next thing on my list.


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http:// _DSC0517-8 by David Burbank, on Flickr

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Does this look unnatural? I know there are pobably some issues with cloning the rig out of the car but I am mostly looking for feedback on colors, saturation, etc. I feel like its on the edge but I do like the way it turned out... I feel like it may look bad on other monitors. Please chime in with opinions and tips for how I can make this a better edit.

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[quote=iron_grenadier;37963424]Can anyone give me some advice on what would make these shots better. All were shot with a Nikon D5100 with a 10-24 f/3.5-4.5 during the middle of the day and edited with Lightroom 3. I am a noob photographer so any help is appreciated.


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I like this one- I might would have cropped closer to the back of the car so that there is more lead room on the front of the car rather than the back. I also think getting rid of the power line would be easy with cloning/content aware/ or cropping and would allow more focus on the car itself.
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Old 09-03-2012, 06:33 PM   #9397
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Does this look unnatural? I know there are pobably some issues with cloning the rig out of the car but I am mostly looking for feedback on colors, saturation, etc. I feel like its on the edge but I do like the way it turned out... I feel like it may look bad on other monitors. Please chime in with opinions and tips for how I can make this a better edit.

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I would turn down the saturation on the blues to make the windshield a more natural color. I think it would look way better.
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here are two shots with two different edits, for some reason, i like the first vintage looking one better.



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I really like the look of the first one, too bad the location is horrible
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I really like the look of the first one, too bad the location is horrible
its all i had to work with, was at bbq so it was either his, or have a bunch of people in the background.
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