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Old 10-24-2012, 03:20 PM   #9751
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Vilar, I love the profile!

Any thoughts on this one?
The composition and tilt are awesome! The lighting isn't quite as nice as the other one you posted though, especially since you've lost more shadow detail in this one. You can still keep it dark, just bring out the shadows more so that it's just not pure black. Very nice nonetheless!
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Old 10-24-2012, 04:16 PM   #9752
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I got a D600!!!

After borrowing FX bodies for the past couple years, I finally ditched my D7000 and literally just received my first, very own FX body. I am beyond excited and look forward to losing all my money on some lenses I have always wanted.

Armin, car photography aside, pick 1: 14-24mm f2.8 or 24mm 1.4? I love wide angle, but I crave shallow DOF and low-light handheld. I still have my Tokina 11-16 2.8 that I can shoot at 2.8 on an FX body, so I may jump on the 24mm and just go nuts.

Also, any take on the 28-300mm f3.5-5.6? I've heard many good things, but also some bad things. It suffers from distortion at most focal lengths but that can be easily fixed in LR with the Lens Correction option. At the price point (<$1000), it seems to OBLITERATE the 24-120mm f4 in all the reviews I have read. I've always wanted a capable zoom for general purposes when I don't have my primes.

I'll have a 135mm f2 and 70-200 f2.8 to borrow when I need em, but I want a couple I can call my own.

Looking forward to your feedback.
Nice, congrats! As far as lenses go, the 14-28 is a monster lens, even if you can't put threaded filters on it. It won't work well for automotive work, but it'll work great for just about everything else. On the other hand, I love that 24mm, and honestly didn't find it all that great for automotive either. I guess it really depends on how wide you want to go, but I do love that 24mm quite a bit.

As far as a general lens, I would honestly save up and get the Nikkor 24-70mm É2.8. It really is one of Nikon's best lenses, and will focus faster than just about anything else you can throw at it. It's a perfect compliment to the 70-200mm.
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Old 10-24-2012, 04:39 PM   #9753
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Nice, congrats! As far as lenses go, the 14-28 is a monster lens, even if you can't put threaded filters on it. It won't work well for automotive work, but it'll work great for just about everything else. On the other hand, I love that 24mm, and honestly didn't find it all that great for automotive either. I guess it really depends on how wide you want to go, but I do love that 24mm quite a bit.

As far as a general lens, I would honestly save up and get the Nikkor 24-70mm É2.8. It really is one of Nikon's best lenses, and will focus faster than just about anything else you can throw at it. It's a perfect compliment to the 70-200mm.
Thanks for the advice! The 24-70 looks like a beast!!

Are you sure I wouldn't be better with just a 24 É1.4 and 85 É1.4? Just several paces forward and backward would make up the difference

I am just a little intimidated by the size of these 2.8 zooms, how inconvenient (or not) is it to carry around on a walk? Indoors?
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Old 10-24-2012, 04:46 PM   #9754
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4 shots of my dads Bentley GT Coupe SPEED.... I only have 2 here, but the other 2 are in the process of being edited.

This first one I am not a big fan of, and I don't know why. It's either very boring, very underexposed, not properly polarized (i did use a CP), or all 3. Or the composition just is not very creative. I saw a cracking wall, questionable light, and a black Bentley and I thought it would work out. It doesn't seem to have worked very well. Thoughts?

This second one I like MUCH better, as it's crisp, clean, and sexy. But 2 things bother me and I am curious as to whether they bother you. 1) It's a tighter crop than usual, not leaving much room on the right side. 2) I am getting some light reflecting off the black paint, something which I tried to polarize for but couldn't block out.
Yeah, you can give that first one more pop with some extra processing, but as it stands right now it's exactly what you said: boring. For example, here's what a little extra processing can do to an otherwise boring background:



The second one is cropped a bit too tight, and the car is really close to the right edge. It's also a tad underexposed, and you'll have to find a way to clone out those lights in the reflection like you mentioned.
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Old 10-24-2012, 04:53 PM   #9755
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Thanks for the advice! The 24-70 looks like a beast!!

Are you sure I wouldn't be better with just a 24 É1.4 and 85 É1.4? Just several paces forward and backward would make up the difference

I am just a little intimidated by the size of these 2.8 zooms, how inconvenient (or not) is it to carry around on a walk? Indoors?
The 24-70 is indeed a little heavy, but unless you're walking around a lot (like I did all over downtown Singapore), it really isn't that bad. Indoors, it's no problem either. However, IMHO the best lens I've used as a compact walk-around lens is the Nikkor 35mm É1.4. It's not TOO wide like the 24mm to cause distortion, but it's wide enough for indoors and close quarters, while still giving you plenty of bokeh.
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Old 10-24-2012, 05:10 PM   #9756
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Hard to say on which edit is better...they look very similar to me other than a minor contrast adjustment. The shallow DOF is nice, but I don't like how the car is just centered in the frame for both the front and rear shots. As for cloning out the pole, it'll take some time since you'll need to do multiple clones. It's more of a pain in the ass to do in Lightroom compared to Photoshop, but definitely possible.

Yeah, it's really just some small changes in terms of the white point and the saturation.


I'm using the 55-300mm with a DX body (My D70s is still cranking along!), so it's a bit "cramped" unless I'm several hundred feet back.

Trying to learn how to work with the longer focal length to get a good DOF even though it's at best f5.6 at 300mm.


Are these a little better in regards to centering? None of the photos are cropped, but I unfortunately didn't follow the old rule of "Move your feet" to get a radically different viewpoint. All were taken while lying on the ground




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Old 10-24-2012, 05:15 PM   #9757
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Yeah, it's really just some small changes in terms of the white point and the saturation.


I'm using the 55-300mm with a DX body (My D70s is still cranking along!), so it's a bit "cramped" unless I'm several hundred feet back.

Trying to learn how to work with the longer focal length to get a good DOF even though it's at best f5.6 at 300mm.


Are these a little better in regards to centering? None of the photos are cropped, but I unfortunately didn't follow the old rule of "Move your feet" to get a radically different viewpoint. All were taken was taken while lying on the ground
So far you'd doing well with the DOF. They're a little better in terms of centering, but just remember the Rule of Thirds...it's definitely better horizontally, but the car can be a little higher in the frame. Either way, I'd say you're definitely making the best out of what you have, and that's definitely a plus!
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Old 10-24-2012, 05:24 PM   #9758
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The feature isn't live yet, so here's another teaser from Formula DRIFT Irwindale

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Old 10-24-2012, 05:58 PM   #9759
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Love the tones and edit on that one^^^

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Wow, this is great! I think your black levels are just a TINY bit too high since we can't see much shadow detail, but the composition and lighting is just about perfect. I think that's just a minor thing to fix, so I'd say this is still well-deserved:

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The composition and tilt are awesome! The lighting isn't quite as nice as the other one you posted though, especially since you've lost more shadow detail in this one. You can still keep it dark, just bring out the shadows more so that it's just not pure black. Very nice nonetheless!
Yeah I had to shoot this whole set from the shadow side to get the mountains in the back round! How about the edit on this one?

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Old 10-24-2012, 06:38 PM   #9760
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Sick pic Armin and Rsw! I haven't shot any auto in a while and I tried shooting when it's darker out. Thoughts so far? I know it isn't exciting but I'm just experimenting with different light now. Oh and believe it or not my drivers window IS up, it looks like it's down








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Old 10-24-2012, 07:37 PM   #9761
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Yeah, terrible light You've got mixed lighting on the car thanks to the shadow from the tree, and I'd probably have the car pointing inward instead of outward on that side of the frame. I don't like the chain link fence in the background either.
i didnt go to this place to shoot the car, i went to shoot the building...but what else can a car guy do haha. and there was no moving the fence...if so id be going to jail...not worth a photo haha
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Old 10-24-2012, 07:46 PM   #9762
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The building i speak of..


another take...again, wasn't looking to shoot the car, but i like the colors of the leaves here...


same here w this one...i actually use a flash for fun to see what i could get w it...just goofying around really.
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Old 10-24-2012, 11:13 PM   #9763
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Working on polarization to get just enough reflections to show the body lines.

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Old 10-25-2012, 01:17 PM   #9764
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Here is my first real try at a rolling shot, tips are much needed, this was shot at 1/15 f14 the car isnt absolutly crisp but other than that I am really happy with how it turned out
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Old 10-25-2012, 09:55 PM   #9765
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That car is sick! Can you give us a little info on it?
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Old 10-26-2012, 04:43 PM   #9766
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Love the tones and edit on that one^^^



Hell Yeah! #4



Yeah I had to shoot this whole set from the shadow side to get the mountains in the back round! How about the edit on this one?
This one looks great as well, but again you've got some lost shadow detail, specifically in the grille and bottom air dam area. Just a very minor thing that you can easily correct
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Old 10-26-2012, 05:23 PM   #9767
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Sick pic Armin and Rsw! I haven't shot any auto in a while and I tried shooting when it's darker out. Thoughts so far? I know it isn't exciting but I'm just experimenting with different light now. Oh and believe it or not my drivers window IS up, it looks like it's down
Saturation looks good and I like the white balance being a tiny bit warm, but I think you just need a tiny bit more exposure on each of the shots. The first one in particular has a background that's almost totally black, but you can still barely see something there. Bring out those shadows and I think the exposure will be much better overall.
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Old 10-26-2012, 05:30 PM   #9768
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The building i speak of..

another take...again, wasn't looking to shoot the car, but i like the colors of the leaves here...

same here w this one...i actually use a flash for fun to see what i could get w it...just goofying around really.
Crazy, creepy-looking building! Looks like something out of a The Walking Dead or something Looks like it's leaning to the right a little bit though, and you've got some vignetting in the corners.

The colors are a good compliment to the car, but be careful not to blow out highlights, especially in the last shot. The bumper and the sky above the house are a bit too bright.
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Old 10-26-2012, 05:31 PM   #9769
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Working on polarization to get just enough reflections to show the body lines.
Very clean! Just be careful to not eliminate everything, or else it'll look unnatural. The front bumper and the side of the car are a bit too dark without the reflections.
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Old 10-26-2012, 05:42 PM   #9770
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Here is my first real try at a rolling shot, tips are much needed, this was shot at 1/15 f14 the car isnt absolutly crisp but other than that I am really happy with how it turned out
1/15 is pretty slow for a rolling shot. How fast were you guys going? I think you'd have a better chance at getting a good, sharp shot if your shutter was a little faster, say maybe 1/40, depending on how fast you guys were going. Remember, generally you want to set your shutter speed to be the inverse of your speed, so if you guys are going at 60 mph, then start with a shutter speed of 1/60 sec. A tiny bit faster gives you more speed, and a tiny bit slower gives you more spoke detail.

Compositionally, the car could be a tiny bit higher in the frame, but it's in a good spot horizontally.
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Old 10-26-2012, 06:14 PM   #9771
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i feel like i havent posted in this thread (let alone nasioc in ages) but i am still alive!

i was fortunate enough to shoot the last formula d event, locally, along side Mr. Armin. which was great to compare shots track side and have some slow pan contests


not looking for a stamp, but i did want to share this teaser since i figured many would enjoy it (little different for my style - but i feel it works well with the car)

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Old 10-26-2012, 06:37 PM   #9772
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Sick shot Skim!
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Old 10-26-2012, 06:57 PM   #9773
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thank you

it is nice to see people in here improving too! i need to start keeping tabs in here again
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Old 10-26-2012, 11:01 PM   #9774
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Brought up the shadows like you suggested. Spot on advice like always. I like this a lot more and actually don't mind the boring background. I think the car really pops in this photo.

If you look at the pictures on Flickr the exposure looks better, it didn't carry over well.


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Old 10-28-2012, 02:04 AM   #9775
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thoughts on these two profiles? and to Inkman, the car is a single turbo Borg Warner EFR 7670, built engine, 460hp, fun car! Pictures do it justice, if you look at it up close in person it is pretty beat up lol

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