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Old 10-31-2012, 07:18 PM   #9801
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i thought i was topping out my standards, but i accept the challenge! and the jittery look was due to panning the car on the bank as it was coming towards us. was weird, i shot that at 1/100th with 1600iso. i have more shots of that car i really like. i think i will reprocess a side profile pan of that car and try something interesting with it.
We never top-out our standards. The instant you feel that way, then you'll never improve from that point forward.
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Old 10-31-2012, 08:42 PM   #9802
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We never top-out our standards. The instant you feel that way, then you'll never improve from that point forward.
Goes along with my favorite personal saying for myself...

"The day I think I know everything is the dumbest day of my life."

The day you stop learning...it is all over.
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Old 11-01-2012, 12:49 AM   #9803
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OK, I tried doing a print screen of my image in Photoshop vs. the exact same image once saved and uploaded to my website (via SmugMug). The upload made both sides of the image look darker than they actually look, but you can tell that the side of the image from my website is much darker/contrasty in comparison to the side of the image from Photoshop. I also uploaded to PhotoBucket and you can tell that the image is definitely lighter there. What is going on?

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Old 11-01-2012, 12:51 AM   #9804
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finally

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Old 11-01-2012, 01:00 AM   #9805
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What are you talking about?

Here is another example that is probably better than the screen shot. This is the same image uploaded to SmugMug vs. Photobucket. The SmugMug image looks much darker. Up until recently I did not have this issue.

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Old 11-01-2012, 01:13 AM   #9806
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Recently, people have been saying my photos are over saturated and I kept wondering why.
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Old 11-01-2012, 01:18 AM   #9807
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Recently, people have been saying my photos are over saturated and I kept wondering why.
Definitely NOT the same issue. Photobucket is working fine for me.
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Old 11-01-2012, 11:39 AM   #9808
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Can we get a flickr comparison too? That's more widely used than Photobucket I feel.
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Old 11-01-2012, 11:41 AM   #9809
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Yeah, I could try to do that. Do those two images look drastically different to everyone else? I am now on my laptop using Firefox (instead of Chrome), and the images look basically identical. The SmugMug image is not all blacked out like it was on my PC with Chrome.
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Old 11-01-2012, 12:22 PM   #9810
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The Smug Mug picture is definitely darker. I'm looking at it through Chrome right now.
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Old 11-01-2012, 12:26 PM   #9811
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The Smug Mug picture is definitely darker. I'm looking at it through Chrome right now.
Thanks for confirming that! After doing more research, I think it might be a SmugMug/Chrome combo issue, where the real issue is with Chrome. It appears that SmugMug actually uses the color profile (many other sites do not), and then Chrome does NOT use the color profile. For some reason this is causing the images too look weird. I'm still looking into it more to try and confirm and find a fix.
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Old 11-01-2012, 12:34 PM   #9812
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I notice a difference in "exposure" from when it leaves Lightroom to Flickr. Then I view it in here and it seems off sometimes. I look at the original image in Lightroom and it's dead on.
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Old 11-01-2012, 01:01 PM   #9813
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Here is another example that is probably better than the screen shot. This is the same image uploaded to SmugMug vs. Photobucket. The SmugMug image looks much darker. Up until recently I did not have this issue.

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Thanks for confirming that! After doing more research, I think it might be a SmugMug/Chrome combo issue, where the real issue is with Chrome. It appears that SmugMug actually uses the color profile (many other sites do not), and then Chrome does NOT use the color profile. For some reason this is causing the images too look weird. I'm still looking into it more to try and confirm and find a fix.
Okay, I've tested this in Firefox, Camino, Chrome, and Safari all on my Mac with calibrated monitor, and I can see that the two photos look different in every browser, with the Smugmug one being a tiny bit darker. To me, this tells me that Smugmug is actually using the color profile and Photobucket is not, and thus it's not so much a browser issue. However, this doesn't explain the difference between PS and your uploaded image. I'm not really sure how to explain that one, but I personally haven't had that problem.
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Old 11-01-2012, 01:12 PM   #9814
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there are sooo many factors that change the appearance of your photos.
image mode on photoshop, the color profile you have it set to, the save settings you use such as embedded color profiles, or save for web compared to save as, and even the file size/quality/or resolution.

ive also noticed depending on your internet speeds ive seen some hosting site lose quality over slower uploading time

theres also diff monitor settings, and diff monitors display resolutions differently when viewing an image in photoshop compared to a web browser.

i work for an automotive parts company as a product photographer/ graphic designer with everyone in the office on dual monitors and it never fails, even with all our monitors calibrated some screens show the brightness/contrast differently than others.
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:39 PM   #9815
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Here is another example that is probably better than the screen shot. This is the same image uploaded to SmugMug vs. Photobucket. The SmugMug image looks much darker. Up until recently I did not have this issue.
I use 2 monitors and only see the difference on one of them.
I'm using Opera web browser, one monitor is an NEC (2490WUXI2) and an old Samsung (Syncmaster 930B). The NEC is an IPS type monitor and the 2 shots look the same but on the Samsung the photo from SmugMug has slightly higher black levels, exposure seems the same.

I'd rather deal with inconsistent uploading than differences between on camera raw (preview and histogram) and Lightroom raw (appearance/histogram). Differences between camera and Lightroom means changes to exposure making polarization change.
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:59 PM   #9816
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I know this isn't the right thread but I need help on posting my own photos from my computer to my thread. Anyone want to help the 5 day old new guy?

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Old 11-02-2012, 10:26 AM   #9817
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I know this isn't the right thread but I need help on posting my own photos from my computer to my thread. Anyone want to help the 5 day old new guy?
You'll need to upload your photos to a web host first in order to post them on a thread here. Flickr.com is probably the most popular, but there's also PhotoBucket and Imgur as well. Just about all of those will give you the proper code to insert your photo into a forum.
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Old 11-02-2012, 11:05 AM   #9818
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I finally got around to revising my old lens write-up, so I've published it on Noƒ8!

http://www.nof8butwhatwemake.com/wha...t-lens-for-me/
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Old 11-03-2012, 10:16 AM   #9819
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You'll need to upload your photos to a web host first in order to post them on a thread here. Flickr.com is probably the most popular, but there's also PhotoBucket and Imgur as well. Just about all of those will give you the proper code to insert your photo into a forum.
Thanks I appreciate it.
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:35 PM   #9820
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Here's another one from the same day as the last one I posted. Very simple background but I think the colors work well together. I'm happy with this shot. I'm finding that I like simple set ups. Nothing crazy in the background, just nice and clean.

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Old 11-04-2012, 09:36 PM   #9821
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new GT3 shot ive been working on. Armin, i took into account what you said about the white balances on this. Dale also helped me get my windows under control. i like the way it turned out



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Old 11-04-2012, 09:38 PM   #9822
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That shot is ridiculous. Well done man!!
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Old 11-04-2012, 10:43 PM   #9823
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^+1.
I was going to ask if it could be rotated a teeny tiny bit counterclockwise (like 1-2*), but when I quickly did it, I preferred the car, but see your problem with the tilted trees in the background.
What did you clone out on the right 3rd?


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Old 11-05-2012, 10:43 AM   #9824
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The Smug Mug picture is definitely darker. I'm looking at it through Chrome right now.
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Okay, I've tested this in Firefox, Camino, Chrome, and Safari all on my Mac with calibrated monitor, and I can see that the two photos look different in every browser, with the Smugmug one being a tiny bit darker. To me, this tells me that Smugmug is actually using the color profile and Photobucket is not, and thus it's not so much a browser issue. However, this doesn't explain the difference between PS and your uploaded image. I'm not really sure how to explain that one, but I personally haven't had that problem.
I am still trying to work on this issue. If anyone has free time and is willing to help, I am looking for screenshots of the SmugMug Image next to the Photobucket image. It would also be helpful if you could include some/all of the following info:

Operating System
Web Browser and Version
Monitor Model
Etc...

Here are the two images:

SmugMug:


Photobucket:


And this is the type of comparison I'm looking for:

Chrome Comparison (SmugMug vs. Photobucket):



Firefox Comparison (SmugMug vs. Photobucket):



^In these comparison screenshots I think you should be able to see that there is a very obvious difference between the SmugMug and Photobucket uploads, which is seen on both Chrome and Firefox (on my desktop PC). When I view the same images on my laptop they look the same (on both browsers)! It appears to be some kind of combo issue with the desktop PC and SmugMug uploads.

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I use 2 monitors and only see the difference on one of them.
I'm using Opera web browser, one monitor is an NEC (2490WUXI2) and an old Samsung (Syncmaster 930B). The NEC is an IPS type monitor and the 2 shots look the same but on the Samsung the photo from SmugMug has slightly higher black levels, exposure seems the same.

I'd rather deal with inconsistent uploading than differences between on camera raw (preview and histogram) and Lightroom raw (appearance/histogram). Differences between camera and Lightroom means changes to exposure making polarization change.
Due to the fact that I am able to see a major difference between the two uploads on the same monitor, I don't think it is a monitor issue. I realize there will be some minor variation from monitor to monitor, but I think this problem is larger than that. Monitor variation is not going to show up on screenshots anyways.
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Old 11-05-2012, 11:26 AM   #9825
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That shot is ridiculous. Well done man!!
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^+1.
I was going to ask if it could be rotated a teeny tiny bit counterclockwise (like 1-2*), but when I quickly did it, I preferred the car, but see your problem with the tilted trees in the background.
What did you clone out on the right 3rd?
Thanks guys.

its a major composite image. about 5 of my own shots all pieces together to create that one. the right side was full of signs and other crap in the background. the road is all fake. lol. had fun with that one!
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