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Old 05-27-2007, 05:58 PM   #1
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Default Whats the deal with gas grills... why no charcoal?

A few years ago my parents replaced their perfectly good natural-gas grill that also had charcoal. It worked great - I used it all the time. In it's place, they got this lame grill that didn't use charcoal - cooking on it was no different than using a George Foreman grill in my opinion. The grill would get hot, but no flame, and no taste from the charcoal.

Now the GF wants to get a grill, and I am confused as to what to get. All the gas grills we looked at seem to only have the heat source, with no charcoal and no flame hitting the food.

We saw a couple charcoal-only grills, but then you have to contend with lighting it, which lacks the convenience of gas.

CN: Why no charcoal + gas grills??
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Old 05-27-2007, 06:00 PM   #2
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you realize thats not charcoal in the gas ones, its just lava rock.
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Old 05-27-2007, 06:03 PM   #3
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I've heard that they have come out with cheap infrared light grills. I saw it on yahoo.
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Old 05-27-2007, 07:10 PM   #4
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The reason flames hit the food on a charcoal grill are the same as why they will hit the food on a gas grill...the juices.
When charcoal is ready to grill on it's not producing a lot of flames, the juice dripping down makes it flame up.
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Old 05-27-2007, 07:19 PM   #5
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Wow. Just wow.
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Old 05-27-2007, 07:49 PM   #6
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Just go to Burger King
i hear they still Flame Broil them there.
problem solved.

<just fired up my CHARCOAL grill. the beauty of charcoal's waiting time... more time to have beer.
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Old 05-27-2007, 08:07 PM   #7
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We have a Webber that is charcoal but lights using a mini propane bottle. Heat up the bricks for 5 minutes or so then turn off the gas. Works great.
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Old 05-27-2007, 08:08 PM   #8
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Just go to Burger King
i hear they still Flame Broil them there.
problem solved.

<just fired up my CHARCOAL grill. the beauty of charcoal's waiting time... more time to have beer.
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Old 05-27-2007, 08:16 PM   #9
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Got one of these:



Running on Natural gas, converted to electronic ignition (no more of that rotary crap) and with stainless steel deflector plates instead of lava brick/rock.

After the first grilling, enough crap/juice/crud builds up on the plates that there is no difference in taste between it and the lava-rock style grill I used to have. Flames still flare up, and the heat is evenly spread.

The only issue with mine is that is heats up a little slower than the propane model it replaced. But once heated up, its fine, and no running out of propane/lugging tanks around FTW!
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Old 05-27-2007, 08:20 PM   #10
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The reason flames hit the food on a charcoal grill are the same as why they will hit the food on a gas grill...the juices.
When charcoal is ready to grill on it's not producing a lot of flames, the juice dripping down makes it flame up.
But most (if not all) the ones at Home Depot and Lowes had a metal cover plate essentially separating the flame from the food. The one my parents have is the same way - all you are doing is heating the food indirectly, which seems to be no different than just shoving the food into an oven or grill it on a George Foreman grill. I see no point in that.... completely lacks the flavor of grilling.


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We have a Webber that is charcoal but lights using a mini propane bottle. Heat up the bricks for 5 minutes or so then turn off the gas. Works great.
You wouldn't happen to have a model number and price on that unit? Sounds like what I would be looking for.



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Old 05-27-2007, 08:22 PM   #11
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5 more minutes and my steak is done. Charcoal BBQ FTW!
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Old 05-27-2007, 08:26 PM   #12
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yeah, weber performer FTW.

Gas lighter, charcoal cook. I use mine frequently.
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Old 05-27-2007, 08:32 PM   #13
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We have a Webber that is charcoal but lights using a mini propane bottle. Heat up the bricks for 5 minutes or so then turn off the gas. Works great.
is this it?

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Old 05-27-2007, 09:35 PM   #14
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I have both.

- The Weber charcoal if I wanna really make a nice big meal / company's coming over for a BBQ...

- Gas grill is for real quick, throw some burgers & brats on during the week for a hassle free dinner after work.
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Old 05-27-2007, 09:47 PM   #15
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Just did 3 fantastic ribeyes on my gas grill. Damn they taste good. Only took 20 minutes total.
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Old 05-27-2007, 10:38 PM   #16
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charcoal grill = food tastes like charcoal.
gas grill = food tastes like food.

Don't any of you watch King of the Hill?
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Old 05-27-2007, 10:53 PM   #17
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Old 05-27-2007, 11:11 PM   #18
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charcoal grill = food tastes like charcoal.
gas grill = food tastes like food.

Don't any of you watch King of the Hill?
My daddy says butane's a bastard gas.
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Old 05-27-2007, 11:19 PM   #19
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Old 05-27-2007, 11:24 PM   #20
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Good things come to those who wait. Yes, the charcoal grill is a perfect example here. http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=1972388 Got this at walmart and it is awsome.
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Old 05-27-2007, 11:28 PM   #21
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charcoal grill = food tastes like charcoal.
gas grill = food tastes like food.

Don't any of you watch King of the Hill?
Peggy's mom says that propane can't get the job done.
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Old 05-28-2007, 12:56 AM   #22
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If you really know how to cook with a good charcoal grill, with real charcoal, you wouldn't even think of using gas. I use one of these. You can't beat it, except it uses a lot of charcoal.

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Old 05-28-2007, 01:01 AM   #23
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What were those little cast iron grills ? Hibachi ?
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Old 05-28-2007, 03:26 AM   #24
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I bought a Weber 300 gas grill and hated it. 4 out of 5 meals were ruined - dry, burned, etc. My friend who recommended it said he loves his. I hated the flavor, or lack thereof, and the cooking characteristics were odd. So we had a cookoff: his propane Weber 200 vs. my cheapy Smokey Joe with Kingsford. We tried to cook the meat exactly the same.

The differences were very intriguing; taste turned out to be the smallest difference. The charcoal grill had a hotter temp, and the carmelization of the surface definately made the charcoal meal taste a little better. My friend didn't like the Kingsford "polluted" taste.

The Smokey Joe's steak looked perfect inside and out: grill marks, dark brown outer layer with a rainbow of reds toward the center. The gas grill was a uniform brown inside and out. Both tasted really good though, but had a different texture. The chicken is where we saw huge differences. The gas grill made the chicken cut like a McNugget; it had a texture of processed frozen fast-food chicken, whereas the charcoal grill made the chicken juicy, and it would tear apart in strings, and the flavor was much more smokey and complex. The gas grilled chicken was quite dry.

I sold the Weber 300 and bought a Big Green Egg. The BGE is LIFE CHANGING. I have used it many times and have never been disappointed or ruined a meal. The wife and I will never again go to a steakhouse, because we've never had a steak as good as the ones from the BGE. It is ceramic and uses hardwood charcoal and because it uses less fuel (keeps heat inside) it dries the air less and food is more juicy. I have a collection of various woods for smoking. The BGE has spoiled and fattened us.
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Old 05-28-2007, 09:06 AM   #25
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^^ see those differences are exactly why I didn't like the new grill my parents got... I didn't want the GF to repeat the mistake. I knew after getting a lot of flack from the OT, I would finally get some good info.

That Big Green Egg thing sounds cool - might be out of the GF's budget, but when I buy a grill, i'll have to check it out.

That one from Walmart looks cool - as much as I hate Walmart, I might have to do a drive-by this week so we can check it out.

Also that Webber that lights with propane might be the bestest solution for her.
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