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Old 12-20-2001, 07:53 PM   #1
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Unhappy ****BAD BUG makes nimda look like lady bug***

I just got this at 8:00 from the Road runner Security office:

Good Evening,

This is an urgent notification. You are strongly urged to take immediate
action as necessary regarding a critical Microsoft security flaw.

Systems Affected:
> Microsoft Windows XP (All default systems)
> Microsoft Windows 98 (Certain configurations)
> Microsoft Windows 98SE (Certain configurations)
> Microsoft Windows ME (Certain configurations)

Here's a short explanation:

Multiple flaws in XP allows a cracker to exploit a remotely exploitable
buffer overflow to gain SYSTEM level access to any default installation of
Windows XP, launch a Denial of Service (DoS) attack, and launch a
Distributed Denial of Service (DDoS) attack. This can all be done remotely.
This is, according to Microsoft, an "unprecedented" risk to consumers due
to this flaw in the Windows operating system.

Fox News already is reporting on it.


The Microsoft bulletin is located at:


Microsoft states," Microsoft strongly urges all Windows XP customers to
apply the patch immediately. Customers using Windows 98, 98SE or ME should
apply the patch if the Universal Plug and Play service is installed and

Let me make this clear. This has the potential to be 10 times worse than
Code Red or Nimda, because the payload can be whatever the attacker
chooses. It might be a portscan, it might be a spam run, it might be
something else. We want to be proactive on this, and get the information
into your hands as quickly as possible.

Download locations for this patch
Microsoft Windows 98/98SE:
Microsoft Windows ME:
Microsoft Windows XP:

I cannot stress how important it is to get and install the patch for this.
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Old 12-20-2001, 09:35 PM   #2
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Surprise, Surprise a problem with the new Microsoft OS!! That is why I still use 98. Plus I love the most trouble free operating system; anything Linux based.
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Old 12-21-2001, 01:59 AM   #3
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I like Mac. It's not perfect, but we almost never get viruses.

BTW, this is soooooooo off topic.
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Old 12-21-2001, 10:56 AM   #4
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Talking As long as we are off topic

Anyone follow Cringly? http://www.pbs.org/cringely/
Now what makes the next year especially scary for data security is the pending arrival of Window XP, an operating system that will come loaded on millions of PCs, each one ready out-of-the-box to be a zombie machine. The problem is that for competitive reasons, the home version of Windows XP has to be able to run programs written for Windows 95, 98, and ME. Windows 2000 can't reliably do that and it has the same core as Windows XP. The only way Microsoft was able to manage this backward compatibility was by disabling a very important security feature. Windows XP will be the first home OS from Microsoft to have full raw TCP/IP socket support (just like Windows 2000), but without Win2000's root-level security. Windows XP runs EVERYTHING at root, which means every program (and even the trojans hidden within that program) has full access to all Windows services, including more advanced network services than ever before. Where Windows ME is generally limited to UDP- and ICMP-flooding, for example, Windows XP can jump straight to the main event -- http flooding aat port 80. This combination of full socket support (more protocols with which to do damage) and root level access is really, really scary.


Unless this feature is changed before XP is released, it will mean that millions of new computers will be manufactured as perfect little virus machines. Virus authors who are anticipating these new PCs will be able to pre-position their digital vermin to take advantage of the socket flaw as the new machines appear. The result is that, in all likelihood, there will be massive data security problems, as well as massive damage to files and property, all as a result of Windows XP.


Running Linux is like drive an 80's Subie... tinker a lot, have a "do anything" machine, Running a Mac is like driving a new generation Subie, It just goes, and is (usually) a pleasure to drive, Running Windows is like driving a Ford Explorer... nuff said
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