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Old 12-20-2001, 08:43 PM   #1
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Default Legacy GT wagon test drive impressions....

I test drove the Legacy I found in the paper yesterday. It had 28K miles on
the car, the asking price was $21K. The internet price was $18K.

What should I expect to pay....the car was immaculate, with some soiling on
the engine and the engine bay (kinda looked like rust, but wasn't). No road
rash on the wheels. Also, the engine had quite a bit of valve chatter...?
At 28K miles is this normal...how easy is it to get taken care of by the
mechanic (would it be warranty work?)?

There was also some speed dependant rhythmic humming coming from somewhere
in the driveline (middle of the car), also a sound from the right front
wheel (like a cv boot was torn).

What do you all think of the car and the price?
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Old 12-20-2001, 09:31 PM   #2
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First do a Carfax, if it comes back clean buy it. The car is under a 3year/36k mile bumber to bumper warranty. Plus a 6year/60k mile powertrain warranty. I don't see how you could go wrong.

What year is also important for us to give you our input on the price.

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Old 12-20-2001, 10:33 PM   #3
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It's a GT.....I forgot to state that fact in my message, but I got it in the subject line.
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Old 12-21-2001, 01:20 AM   #4
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Wagoneer, What year is it? That will tell a lot. Phase1 or 2 motor, Manual or Auto trans. Options? Leather, stereo upgrades, door grab extensions, mods? Sounds like a 2K or newer for that price and low miles.

Torn CV boot would not "sound" one way or the other, but CV joint, if exposed to road debris any extended period of time might. Always a good idea to have (pay) a good mechanic/tech to look it over, or at a minimum get under the car yourself to get a look at such things as CV boots front and rear, diffs, any oil/coolant/brake leaks, odd tire wear and the like. CarFax would pay off IF you see anything you don't expect to see, like , obvious repairs,rust,seaweed

Just out of curiosity tell us what color it was, how it felt when pushed into a corner(s), any wet roads encountered. The subjective feel of the car in these situations are what will cause you to take her home! I did!

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Old 12-21-2001, 09:20 AM   #5
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Quote:
The car is under a 3year/36k mile bumber to bumper warranty. Plus a 6year/60k mile powertrain warranty.
FYI - The power train warranty is 5 years (60 mos.) / 60K mile.
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Old 12-21-2001, 12:33 PM   #6
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Default New '02 GT for 23k

I just bought my '02 GT Wagon for just under 23k with 5.5% financing. Goldstien Subaru in Albany. So, unless it is a very recent it doesn't sound too good.

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Old 12-21-2001, 05:59 PM   #7
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It's a 2000 MY....is that a phase 1 or 2 motor? Manual transmission. No leather, stereo upgrade with speakers (I think), AM/FM Cassette player with CD player attachment. I don't know what door grab extensions are, so I'm assuming no there aren't any. No mods, this is a used Subie from the Subaru dealer, which also doesn't allow me the option to drive the car over to another mechanic. Tire wear seemed even. I didn't get a VIN number so I can't do a CARFAX report...but I will get it this weekend. There was no visible rust anywhere...(and I looked everywhere I could!!!) <---I looked in the door hinges, hood hinges, wheel well area....basically all the areas where water can get trapped and sit for a long time.

It was black on gray cloth interior. How'd the car feel in the corners....to me peculiar! I've been driving fwd performance cars for years.......than two years ago, I got my first rwd performance car...the S2000. I had to learn how to drive and track it. On Wed. night, I took the wagon through some spirited narrow corners and it felt like the car pushed through the corner (seeming like it was going to understeer). Low and behold, it held a pretty decent line for a car its size....and the tail had feel that it would brake loose at any unsteadiness.

I think that I like the car alot, but I have to find a buyer for my Prelude and am getting desperate to what price I'm going to let it go for........
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Old 12-21-2001, 07:00 PM   #8
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Sounds good! But the price might stand a little manuvering, per 23K for new posted above, BUT, it is a 5-spd !!
Sounds like you experienced the lack of a larger(stock is 16mm) rear sway bar, and probably your first mod! The 2K model has the Phase2 motor with SOHC and less problem prone than the earlier DOHC design, as well as improved low end torque delivery. The optional grab handles add a nice sweeping grip on the door, rather than the stock "pockets" to pull it closed.
I'm sure the dealer will not have any problem with you taking the car to your own mechanic if you ask. If they do I'd keep looking!

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Old 01-02-2002, 01:43 PM   #9
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Want to buy my Legacy GT sedan?
if so email me!!
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Old 01-02-2002, 02:01 PM   #10
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The rythmic humming noise you referred to could very well be a bad wheel bearing. Did it change pitch with the speed of the car? Bad wheel bearings is one of the only problems that seems to be pretty common on Subarus, other than that they seem quite trouble free. (Well, the older Phase I engines have some head gasket problems, but the Phase II seems to be pretty much immune to that). A new wheel bearing would be covered under warranty, so you'd be fine there.

I definitely think that price should come down quite a bit. Check out the various online pricing sites - http://www.edmunds.com/used/2000/sub...on/prices.html for instance. If you click the "Customized Appraisal" button it will allow you to input your zipcode, car color, options, etc so you can get a better idea of what the car is really worth where you are in the country. Even $18k seems high to me, and $21k is ridiculous.

If the dealership won't let you take it someplace else to be looked over, then you should insist they let you do a good once-over of the car on the lift in their bay. They'd probably be unwilling to do that due to insurance reasons, so that might prompt them to let you take it elsewhere.

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Old 01-02-2002, 04:44 PM   #11
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This GT wagon sounds exactly like mine, which I bought two years ago this week for ~$21K.

Needless to say, it is worth a bit less now, so I'd be negotiating or asking for some of whatever they're smoking.

Quite a few people will probably try to convince you that you need a huge rear anti-sway bar; I'm not one of them. Mine's stock, and I've spun it twice. Further reducing the traction at the rear isn't going to help anything, unless you want to have to slow down more to keep from spinning.

Carfax is only useful if it reports a problem. A "clean" report is not reliable. I've checked cars I've personally wrecked and found clean reports years later. I have half a car in my garage ( literally cut in half with a Sawzall after being totalled ) that was "clean" last time I looked. I could weld on a new front half and Carfax would never know the difference.

Caveat emptor.
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Old 01-04-2002, 12:07 AM   #12
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Guys,

I stopped following the i-club board for awhile now, I have to apologize.

I've been trying to sell my current vehicle before jumping onto the Legacy. Is the price a bit more reasonable if I get it down to $16 or $16.5k?

The thing I don't like about this sales guy is that when I test drove the car, he told me it had been only on the lot for about a week; I know for a fact that I saw the ad close to 3 weeks prior to going in for the test drive.

In fact two weeks after the test drive (just last week), he calls me to see if I'm still interested because he's been holding it for me and have been turning back potential customers.

Hopefully I can sell my car in another week...I've dropped the price down to $11K....the body work and paint alone cost me close to $10K. Man what a loss on money for me....I guess I've learned not to do that again!

BTW there is a slight reward for those that can find me a buyer:



More pics and info:
http://www.hondaprelude.com/setups/s...ly.asp?id=1711

BTW, I'm trying not to fall in love with the Legacy just in case it sells before I get the chance to buy her. Maybe that's why I'm subconsciously avoiding this forum.....also for the fact that I've gotten really busy at work and with the S2000 Club of America....
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Old 01-04-2002, 03:12 AM   #13
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sooooooo you need a buyer for your Lude ey? i think i can ask around. i'll keep you posted
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