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Old 12-13-2000, 08:00 PM   #1
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Question which to buy? Impreza Brighton or Outback Sport?

Heyas!
I'm looking to get my first car, and I"m down to either the Brighton or Outback sport.
the RS is kewl, BUT no fold down rear seats?? and pricey.

So, I'd like a wagon to shove stuff like my bike in, fairly comfortably.

Is the OBS worth the extra?
AC, ABS, 4 speakers, power all, hood scoop, fogs, roof rack, raised... anything else?

is there a handling difference? (other than ABS)

oh, and I'm looking for an automatic, b/c i might hand the car off to my parents in a few years.

thanks for your input!

-G-

Prices:
19.4 for the Brighton
26.x for the OBS.
dang that's pricey for a subcompact...

+2k for an Air conditioner, would an after market be cheaper/better.

option #1 was a VW Jetta, 1.8t... but man, I want a car I can drive, not something that will live in a dealer's garage.
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Old 12-14-2000, 09:55 AM   #2
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If you're looking for a get-around-town car without the frills, go with the Brighton. Most of the stuff on the OBS is just cosmetic anywayz -- alloy wheels, raised suspension, 2-tone paint, scoops and vents, etc.

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Old 12-14-2000, 10:51 AM   #3
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Actually, if your looking at a lease, then it would cost you virtually the same to get the OBS, higher residual on it, I remember being at the dealer and the difference in monthly payments was like $15-20 because the residual on the brighton was so low.
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Old 12-14-2000, 01:34 PM   #4
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26k is alot ofr an OBS. I picked mine up for 23k.
If you can wait a bit, you can pick up a 2.5l OBS next year. And also a WRX wagon.... ooh la la...

OBS has a lto over the Brighton. I did a calculation adn basically you get what you pay for. The Brighton is really bare. A great project car if you ask me!
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Old 12-14-2000, 06:21 PM   #5
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I had an OBS and it was fantastic, it's amazing what the extra lift does for you either in the snow or on gravel tracks. I'd recommend it, especially if you love the outdoors, much more practical.

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Old 12-14-2000, 09:10 PM   #6
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Hey Garvinator!! How's going??

First, i don't think you want a VW for these days, hehehe...i am sure you love AWD, i seen too many cars sliding on the street when i fly by

Well, my opinion is if you have the $$, go with the OBS!!
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Old 12-15-2000, 10:48 AM   #7
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I must disagree here. I purchased a Brighton this summer and I'm still convinced the OBS wasn't really worth the extra money. For an extra 6K you get the same motor, tranny (no limited slip), 15" rims, 2 spoilers and an extra inch of clearance. I didn't care about the AC, power windows and the 2 tone paint.

What I see is you can pick your options and save big. You'll want to get the roof rack from the dealer and the rear spoiler from spoilers4less.com. Used fog lights may be purchased from many guys out west who installed the US bumper. At this point, you'll have a great looking wagon that you'll want to modify as your taste develops and your wallet grows. Here are a few interesting options.

Since you'll want 16" mags, you'll be happy to have 4 15"alloy wheels for the winter as opposed to 4 15"mags.

You might also be interested in the great looking hood. The hood is 300$ from the dealer and you can then put in a used scoop or even a 22b one. They're easy to find and much cheaper (in price) to the dealer prices. If you're feeling exotic, you could even get an aluminum or carbon fiber hood!

With the saved money you could get the US Bumper, clears sides, corners and bumper lamps (all options not found on the OBS). Since you'd still have cash at this point why not get side skirts, rear spats and a sexier exhaust?

If A/C is important to you, a lot of guys have remove their units to save weight and to get a few extra HP with an underdrive pulley. Used A/C kits are therefore cheap and available.

There are a few things that are a little more complicated though. First, the Brighton is the only Subaru in north America without a tach. I haven't been able to add one yet, since you need to replace the whole cluster. I still believe I'll be able to get my hands on a white dial one from a scrapped RS (easier to find in yards).

The cool looking rear lower spoiler is, at this point, only available from the dealer (close to 700$ cdn). I haven't found a solution to this one yet. OBS's aren't to frequent in scrap yard!

Have you considered the different in auto insurance cost? Brighton's aren't very expensive in that department.

I could go on and on, but if you're planning on modifying your car at all go for the Brighton. Most OBS owners regret their decisions when the noticed thy paid extra for parts that end up in a corner of their garage.

My 2 cents.
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Old 12-15-2000, 08:28 PM   #8
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Don't forget the OBS also comes with ABS as standard, the Brighton doesn't even have it as an option. OBS also has LSDiff, power drivers seat, cruise control etc....

I also think the recomended hood switch is NOT as straight forward as Caron makes out, switch to something lighter and get the US bumper and you could be in a world of pain with the insurance if anything goes wrong.

Just my 2 cents worth (as an ex. OBS driver). If you need convincing, check out the Subaru Canada website for the features listing.

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Old 12-19-2000, 09:15 AM   #9
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thanks for the info guys.

I can live without the amenities of the OBS (like cruise, power all)
ABS would be nice.
I would LOVE to have a sunroof, power or not.

I'm a little hesitant for a used AC unit, but I guess I shouldn't be, as long as the install is good and the coolant is still filled.
know where I could get one?


sigh, the Jetta 1.8t is sweet, but way too much.
sti2_5rs: you're right, I would LOVE AWD. Lovely snow/ice rink lately eh? and 3 more months to come...
my roomate's corolla sucks...

anybody want to recommend a dealer in this area? Ottawa/Gatineau/Hull, Toronto or Montreal?

Caron: good ideas. I will definitely be looking into those options. what is the "22b" that everybody speaks of?

what about winter-rust proofing?
recommended?
what kind? drill-hole-oil or something else?
(keeping in mind that I will be getting the car in january...)

thanks!
-G-
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Old 12-20-2000, 12:56 AM   #10
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My dealer offered me to rust proof my car. They used a silicone based stuff as opposed to oil based. To be honest, I could care less what they used, I was interested in the warranty :Lifetime on perforation! I do need to have the car checked once a year, but it worth it. I think I paid 250 for it.

I also saw posts on the impact of an oil based rust proofing agent on side markers. Apparently, some car owners have had to replace the units because the rubber seal started to expand! If this happens following something the dealer did, warranty wont be an issue. If a rust-proofing shops does it, well...
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Old 12-20-2000, 08:52 AM   #11
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I use Krown rustproofing. The Ottawa subaru Club members receive 10% off their services.

I have used krown on my previous car too. They do drill but not a problem and the rubber doesn't expand.

I think the problem was with Metropolitan. Krown isn't an oil based product.

Here's their site: http://www.krown.com/

Garvinator... you know Jason? You should come out with him to our next meeting...

Later...

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Old 12-20-2000, 09:23 AM   #12
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Hmm...
yeah, Metropolitan oil...
left oil stains on the street where we parked it (before parking in the driveway).

Krown..
What about Ziebart?

No, I don't think I know Jason, I'm pretty new to Ottawa (Kanat).
when/where is the next meeting?

I'm looking to buy in mid january, so knowing more would be good...

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Old 12-20-2000, 07:35 PM   #13
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Our meetings are always the first Thursday of every month... The meeting will be january 4th, 7pm at Angelo's restaurant on Rideau street (downtown) (585 Rideau). It intersects with Cobourg street.

I never used Ziebart. Krown does drip too... It's always a good idea to park your car on the street (if possible) for a couple days.

We have a mailing list too...
www.egroups.com/group/nationalcapitalsubaruclub

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