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Old 06-26-2007, 07:14 AM   #1
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Default Seat Belt frayed, 03 Baja Sport, 38K Miles

Is there any warranty on a frayed Drivers' seatbelt? My wife noticed that my driver's seatbelt is frayed. I have the Subaru Added Security 6year/60K warranty on my 03 Baja (38K Miles). How expensive is a new seatbelt? I bet they ream you with dealer install charges.

Is there any warranty on the seatbelts?

The MYSUBARU website says this:

"Seat Belt Limited Lifetime Warranty
Coverage: Useful Life of the Vehicle

Seat belt coverage lasts for the useful life of the vehicle and includes seat belts and related components which fail to function properly during normal use."

I suppose they will tell me that the fact that the seatbelt is frayed does not affect its proper function.

When I had a Geo Metro years ago, I had to replace the front seatbelts at least 6 times during the time I had that car, and only the first few of those times were covered under warranty. That was like 15 years ago and it cost $200 each time. I hate to think what Subaru will charge me 15 years later. Eventually, I got to the point of visiting salvage yards and installing ones that were probably broken from a major accident, to scrimp on costs while remaining compiant with seatbelt laws, probably not a good idea, I was just a dumb kid.

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Old 06-26-2007, 02:16 PM   #2
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3/36 for the frayed belts, lifetime for the belt mechanisms.

I'd just take it in to the dealer and if they dont want to cover it, ask for SOA assistance on paying for it. It is a saftey item and they should be more willing to do something for you.
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Old 06-27-2007, 11:53 PM   #3
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seeing that you have the Added Security coverage, they should cover it...

but you need to find out what is causing it to fray....it might not be a defect, but something that it is rubbing against, just so it doesn't happen in the future
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Old 06-28-2007, 01:25 PM   #4
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I would think, although I'm not a seatbelt engineer, that fraying of a belt would most definately effect its usefulness in the event of a crash. I think that if you go in there with a good atitude, they will be more then willing to replace those or at the least cover parts.

What were you doing to fray belts in a car multiple times and then again in another car? I could understand the Metro, they are rather low end vehicles, but I'm suprised the Baja would do this.

Let us know what happens.
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Old 06-29-2007, 02:22 PM   #5
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My warranty is flagged left and right, but the seatbelt warranty is 1,000,000 miles and federally-mandated and my frayed belts were replaced no questions asked. Your belts will be replaced as long as they weren't chewed up by the family dog or something .


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Old 06-29-2007, 02:52 PM   #6
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My warranty is flagged left and right, but the seatbelt warranty is 1,000,000 miles and federally-mandated and my frayed belts were replaced no questions asked.
I think it is actually 100,000 miles/10 years, but i might be mistaken. I had the motorized seatbelts in my ford escort replaced numerous times under that warranty... and you though regular belts were expensive!! those had a fairly large motor and a track that ran around the entire doorframe, all of which had to be replaced as a unit.
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Old 06-29-2007, 04:16 PM   #7
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FYI....Seat belts have a lifetime warranty. SOA will cover them even if they have been cut to get you out of your car if the pre-tensioner has malfunctioned. Get to a dealer.... Its free.
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Old 06-29-2007, 05:25 PM   #8
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FYI....Seat belts have a lifetime warranty. SOA will cover them even if they have been cut to get you out of your car if the pre-tensioner has malfunctioned. Get to a dealer.... Its free.
He is correct. They are covered with the exception of them being discolored.
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Old 06-29-2007, 05:39 PM   #9
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Thirded. Lifetime warranty on them
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Old 06-30-2007, 05:53 AM   #10
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What about older cars? Like old GC8s or even turbo legacies (had the automatic seatbelts)?
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Old 06-30-2007, 02:00 PM   #11
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FYI....Seat belts have a lifetime warranty. SOA will cover them even if they have been cut to get you out of your car if the pre-tensioner has malfunctioned. Get to a dealer.... Its free.
WRONG

They ARE covered for the lifetime of the vehicle, but that only covers the mechanical parts of the seatbelt. It doesn't cover fraying, discolorization, or if they are cut:

8.4.35.1. Seat Belt Lifetime Limited Warranty

This warranty is effective beginning with 1995 model year vehicles.

The Seat Belt Lifetime Limited Warranty coverage lasts for the useful life of the vehicle. Coverage includes seat belts and related components which fail to function properly during normal use due to a defect in material or workmanship.

Warranty coverage applies to front and rear seat belts which were installed in the vehicle at the time of manufacture or were supplied as Genuine Subaru Replacement Parts for use in vehicles covered by this warranty.

This warranty does not apply to:

Cosmetic appearance, such as color fading, when the seat belts function properly.

Any electrical related components or body anchor points.
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Old 06-30-2007, 02:26 PM   #12
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WRONG

They ARE covered for the lifetime of the vehicle, but that only covers the mechanical parts of the seatbelt. It doesn't cover fraying, discolorization, or if they are cut:

8.4.35.1. Seat Belt Lifetime Limited Warranty

This warranty is effective beginning with 1995 model year vehicles.

The Seat Belt Lifetime Limited Warranty coverage lasts for the useful life of the vehicle. Coverage includes seat belts and related components which fail to function properly during normal use due to a defect in material or workmanship.

Warranty coverage applies to front and rear seat belts which were installed in the vehicle at the time of manufacture or were supplied as Genuine Subaru Replacement Parts for use in vehicles covered by this warranty.

This warranty does not apply to:

Cosmetic appearance, such as color fading, when the seat belts function properly.

Any electrical related components or body anchor points.
I am sorry but what you posted is incorrect and confusing.

If the seatbelt is frayed from it's use from it snagging on something, it is a covered repair. If it has been cut by someone or discolored, and functions fine then it is not a covered repair.
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Old 06-30-2007, 07:09 PM   #13
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I am sorry but what you posted is incorrect and confusing.
She's quoting SOA's Policy & Procedures manual. You should check it out sometime.
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Old 06-30-2007, 07:53 PM   #14
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I know, I see it everyday thanks.

She stated it doesn't cover fraying, which I don't see anything in the manual that states fraying isn't a covered repair. That is why it is incorrect and confusing is she is saying fraying isn't covered and using a reference to base that, yet nothing in the reference substantiates her claim.

I have replaced a few of them under warranty.
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Old 06-30-2007, 09:49 PM   #15
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as a subaru tech, who has replaced a frayed seat belt under warranty, ill tell you that as long as it doesnt at all look like its been cut, it should be replaced. key word is SHOULD, as its at the discrepency of the dealership whether they think it should be done or not.
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Old 07-01-2007, 01:39 AM   #16
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Ok, maybe we both have a different definition of fraying.

If the seatbelt is frayed from rubbing on something (the flat part), then it is not covered, but if it starts coming apart, (along the edges) it is covered. "Fraying' on the flat part does not make the seatbelt unsafe, whereas fraying along the edges could weaken it.

the OP has Added Security, so they shouldn't have problem either way...at least they wouldn't in my shop.
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