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Old 02-08-2001, 09:32 AM   #1
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Post To Wrx of to not...that is the question... (might be a little long)

Well as everyone else knows the new WRX is coming out pretty soon. Alot of us are anxious until then. But in my case I'm a little confused. I've always loved Subaru always will. But I also love the Lexus, espcially the IS300. Now one of the main reasons why I like the IS is cause it being a 4-door sport sedean and the 215 HP does help too. I don't have much trunk space in my RS cause of my subs and amps built into my sparetire well. With a 4-door least you have the backseat (with a door) to throw it in.

Now, I bought my White RS Coupe in 1999 so there weren't any 4-doors around at that point. Plus what really pissed me off with the MY00 the fact that they came with Cruise Control. But life goes on, who cares. Finally here's are my question(s). Yes the IS300 is more than 42,000 CDN and maybe it might not be as fast as the WRX, but it's still a LEXUS. Don't get me wrong Subaru rocks especially with the new WRX being 220HP (something like that) and a price range of 36,000CDN (very affordable)? It does look very tempting. Should I go for the IS300 or the WRX? Will Subaru make a sucker out of us and include a billion more options as it matures? ARGH! What should I do?

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Old 02-08-2001, 09:44 AM   #2
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ok, let try sth here!!

yes, i do think subaru will put something new in later WRX MY03,04?? Just like they put curise control, standard CD and carbon fiber on 01.

Second, I won't buy an IS for that price, 43000+taxes!! Wow, I won't pay that much for a Toyota. I know is a Lexus, but still made by Toyota.

anyway, just my little thoughts!
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Old 02-08-2001, 09:47 AM   #3
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Yes the IS300 is more than 42,000 CDN and maybe it might not be as fast as the WRX, but it's still a LEXUS.


and the lexus is still a toyota...
Do you get much snow where you are? the lexus is RWD ... vs AWD for the WRX.. and if im not mistaken the IS300 is still automatic.. vs the 5 speed on the WRX


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Old 02-08-2001, 10:44 AM   #4
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Daven, keep the RS for another year. Any wait for the MY03 WRX. Not only might it have more features, but a lot of the bugs of the MY02 will be worked out by then.

The IS300 is definately a nicer car . But id prefer a 5spd in it. Weren't they coming out with one soon? (btw , make sure you get it in yellow )
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Old 02-08-2001, 11:38 AM   #5
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They're really in two different classes. Actually no they're not, you're just paying more for the Lexus/Toyota. It really depends what you want, the WRX is more affordable, has AWD and is easy to mod.

The IS looks good, has tons of mods as well though might be a bit harder to get the same bang for buck as the WRX, handles well, but is a lot more expensive.

What do you want? Luxury while ripping up the roads? Or just plain rip up a new road?
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Old 02-08-2001, 11:48 AM   #6
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I predict a STi version coming in 1-2 years. I don't think there are any bad new generation bugs to report since it's already been out for 6 months. Maybe rotor warpage if you go crazy on the 4-pots.

I believe the price of the old body style will go up, maybe more for the 2-doors? But then remember that the new style RS, TS and OBS have a cheaper MSRP, so it's a bit of a gamble. The other part of the equation also includes the fact that Canada is getting very few WRX's compared to the US. It may be too late to get one by the time you decide, or if they don't sell enough, what if they drop the WRX lineup?

But the IS300 Lexus is a nice ride, but I'm more of a practical guy myself. Hope this makes things easier for you.
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Old 02-08-2001, 02:59 PM   #7
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Thanks for the replies guys! Another fact I forgot to point out was that fact that the 99 probably got the biggest shaft out of all the years. You know what I'm talking about, the Air mass meter. I've always wanted to install an intake but in fear of it blowing (costing more than 400 bucks to replace) I never did. Yes, Subaru doesn't encourage us to mod our cars but I really hope they don't make this same mistake twice.

In reply to the comment about Lexus being just a Toyota, yes this is true. This goes for Acura - Honda, Audi - Volkswagon as well. But I still believe you would get better quality out of the higher end names then you would out of mainstream manufactuers.

Still venting some steam,

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Old 02-08-2001, 05:42 PM   #8
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Daven - I'm a huge supporter for Subaru, but hey, I'd rather go with the Lexus. From what I heard at Stampede Lexus/Toyota, this year they're going to bring in the 5spd into the IS300! Personally though, I'd rather have the 2L I6 from Europe and slap on a turbo! (or drop in the Aristo's twin turbo 3.0L I6!) I'm a big fan of Sports Sedans (hence the GT). The RS is nice and all, but it could be alot better if you had comfort (and amentities) as well as performance!
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Old 02-08-2001, 06:13 PM   #9
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Ultimately, it is your choice and you choose what you want the most. Either way, you get a hell of a car. I know I'd take either one. If you go for the WRX, wait until next year's model. I agree with Tarun that they will have a lot of potential bugs worked out and refinements added. But, you never do know ...

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Old 02-08-2001, 06:20 PM   #10
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Even though, I'm pretty sure Subaru would throw in (or at make available as options) "extras" in future years; I'm betting the price will go up if it's successful. $36K for the WRX is a steal, IMO, and it's probably just an introductory price. Sure, you may get a few extra features in another year or two, but at what cost?

I think it's pointless to worry about what you may "miss out" on because newer cars are constantly going to have more stuff, even the IS300. I mean most people probably wouldn't "miss" options if they were never available. At any point, you can only try to make the best choice with the available options. I mean, you probably feel "shafted" now by the MY99 2.5RS but back when you were shopping for the car, it was the best choice you had.
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Old 02-08-2001, 10:18 PM   #11
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Toyota screwed themselves with the original IS300 because the bean counters said that there wasn't enough demand for a 5 speed manual. Apparently, after the car was already headed for production someone decided to point out that 60% of the BMW 3 series (the IS300 biggest competitor) were sold with manuals. Toyota is bringing out a 5 spd version, but it is still a couple months away.
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Old 02-08-2001, 11:20 PM   #12
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Daven,

I can relate to your quandary, because I really like the look of the IS300's, BUT the Lexus is way more money than a loaded WRX would be. Also, I drove RWD Bimmers for years and they were awful to drive in the winter time. With the tire width on the IS300, I will make a prediction that the car will just plain BLOW come winter time. That means you'll have a great car for 6months of the year and a headache the rest of the time.

As someone also pointed out, the WRX will be relatively few in number and I see IS300's on almost a daily basis. If exclusivity is important to you the WRX is the clear winner. You can also guarantee that there will be chips available when the WRX comes out and you'll probably get close to 250hp no problem for a relatively minimal outlay in cash.

The new WRX is also a little wider and longer than the current body style which will translate into more room.

As far as "new car bugs" are concerned, remember that the new body style Impreza has been sold in Japan/Oz/Europe for a few months already so the "new" WRX will not exactly be the first off of the assembly line. They've had some time to work some of the kinks out.

Whatever you decide, enjoy your ride.
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Old 02-09-2001, 01:25 AM   #13
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Freeman,

IS300 is nice but too expensive. For that price, I'd buy a BMW 330 instead and the IS300 starts at $42k... the fully loaded model with 17" rims/tires, etc... is actually $48k...

I'm waiting for the STI version. When they unveiled the WRX at Detroit, (in the interview) SOA said they're already thinking bringing the WRX STI version for 2004. That's what I'm waiting for!

Ken,

The new WRX doesn't have the 4 pots brakes. SOA and SOC didn't include this feature to keep the prices down.

And the prices are going to rise too... The TS will be around $24k (wagon format) and the RS will be around $28-29k...

Subaru is trying to become upscale... That's why they dropped the Impreza Breighton...

Back to the debate... Lexus has a great overall look and feel but not worth the money though...

I'd take the WRX anyday... but I'd still prefer the STI!!!

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Old 02-09-2001, 01:36 AM   #14
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Hey Daven
I am thinking of buying wrx too.How much you think you can sell your car?I want to know how much should i ask.


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Old 02-09-2001, 01:52 AM   #15
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Even if you want the IS300, wait for the manual to hit the shore and test it.

Me? I will be selfish and say this: keep the demand of the WRX high, and I'll get my STi

The power of the new WRX still doesn't justify the new look - but the STi might.
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Old 02-09-2001, 09:55 PM   #16
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Well ladies looks as though I'm jumping aboard the WRX bandwagon. I put my pre-order deposit into today. I was quite imprezed with a few things. Heated mirrors, Heated seats I'm very smily about that. The only thing that really bothers me is the fact that there is no sunroof. The 227 HP should be able to subside that. In a couple of months if you see an aspen white WRX that might be me.

Thanks!

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