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Old 06-26-2007, 09:48 PM   #76
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Think ill hold on to my 02 for a very long time now.... I read an article about the new wrx/sti's coming out and i was not really impressed. Doesnt look as if ill be interested in the new ones at all. Hurray for bugeyes!!!! By the way, lol i just spent 16 bux at wal-mart on a transformer called Ricochet, lol. Hes a WRX! im such a nerd
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Old 06-26-2007, 09:58 PM   #77
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I dont understand the no lsd though. The people who like to straight line race their wrx's arent going to be pleased with that..and the smaller turbo...it seems as though subaru wants to widen the distance between the Sti and WRX
You realize that a viscous rear LSD does absolutely nothing on pavement in a straight line on a Subaru.. right? People who still want them (as useless as they are) can swap in a junkyard diff.
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Old 06-26-2007, 11:39 PM   #78
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doesnt seem to bad, i dont know about the hatch back though, and the fact the signature hoodscoop is not like the legacy's
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Old 06-27-2007, 12:44 AM   #79
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Man, Subaru really screwed the pooch with this car. I HATE HATE HATE it. For real though, now it has no LSD?! I don't care if this thing ran 11s out of the box or something, id still never even consider one. Oh well, 2005: RIP the last good looking Impreza
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Old 06-27-2007, 12:46 AM   #80
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so they really didnt do anything to make the 5-speed stronger ? . i liek the interior of the new wrx tho . This car is going to have some stiff competition with the mazdaspeed3 already on sale and the caliber SRt-4 going on sale in sep. i hope this wrx puts out some good performance numbers.
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Old 06-27-2007, 12:56 AM   #81
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[quote=Snow Drift;18530391]He is right you could do that because the 08 WRX uses the LGT intercooler, manifold etc and the new turbo has a vertical IC inlet. The WRX TD04 right now does not, it has a side inlet. The LGT requires a manifold and intercooler swap in order to fit any WRX/STi based turbo (20G, etc).

Not true. All you need is a fmic that is made to work w/ a WRX style turbo that mates up to the LGT throttle body. There are 2 of these already out for the legacy gt.

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Old 06-27-2007, 02:33 AM   #82
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I think a great option is Hard Plastic Trunk liner with Rear Backing R seats.
Like the matrix!

That would be cool.
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Old 06-27-2007, 03:00 AM   #83
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No LSD?

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As i get the JDM models, i really hope they still have some differential brake/lock. When driving in deep snow/sand/mud you really need those. I have VDC and LSD on my current JDM Outback 2006.
It doesn't matter that much if it is viscous or electrical controlled as long as it works.
Look at the new Saab XWD which is the first car to use a Haldex clutchpack set-up that really works. It is Haldex gen.4 AND it has a electronically controlled differential brake.
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Old 06-27-2007, 06:29 AM   #84
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So does that mean for sure that the car a 5 speed WRX Sedan will not have a front or rear LSD? I'm not really sure it would make a huge difference on the street but for the autocross guys, that may make things worse. Oh yeah and you guys in the Snow. I guess its not asymmetrical if it doesn't have at least 1 LSD is it?
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Old 06-27-2007, 06:41 AM   #85
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OK, First off i'd like to say i'm getting used to the looks, but still can't see myself buying one, It's just not agressive enough for me.The optional grill does wonders, and the taillight photochops are a nice improvement also. But It's just not hot enough a hatch for my single self. Reading about VDC and the new suspension my questions are:

1. dow does this thing behave trying to get it sideways? open diff wtf??
2. in layman's terms, what are benefits of say the new rear suspension vs. agood aftermarket set-up on the current WRX?
3. is there any difference mechanically between the sedan and the hatch?
4. will STi/SPT produce goodies for the sedan ie deck spoilers and such?


some of this is probably addressed in the article, but maybe it isn't. thanks
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Old 06-27-2007, 06:54 AM   #86
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I can only answer that the new rear suspension should be better, well at least in theory, and prob after new springs. Were not going to know anything until the maga are out. I just hope there are tests this month. The sedan is growing on me also, let just all take a second to pray that's its as good a car as it is ugly.
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Old 06-27-2007, 07:45 AM   #87
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I think a great option is Hard Plastic Trunk liner with Rear Backing R seats.
Like the matrix!

That would be cool.

They have the option for the 08s in Japan, so I would think it would carry over to the US:

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Old 06-27-2007, 08:10 AM   #88
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I'm not really sure it would make a huge difference on the street but for the autocross guys, that may make things worse.
As an autocross guy.. I can assure you that it won't change a thing. By the time a rear diff on a subaru spins enough to start locking up on pavement, enough weight has shifted to the rear to plant both rear wheels squarely on the ground. High powered WRXs often spin the inside front.. spinning the inside rear only happens when you've got a really bad suspension setup that lifts the rear wheel way too much.
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Oh yeah and you guys in the Snow. I guess its not asymmetrical if it doesn't have at least 1 LSD is it?
Well, it still has the center LSD... and it's still got equal length drive shafts front and rear.

Wait! 'asymmetrical'??

As was mentioned by erito, the viscous rear diff only does anything in thick muck. In the snow it makes the rear end a little more twitchy if you drive like a moron.. which explains why they'd prefer to do without it when coupled with VDC in a vehicle historically prone to ugly crashes in the hands of novice drivers.

The STi is the only Subaru to come with a front LSD.
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Old 06-27-2007, 08:34 AM   #89
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Good write-up. I think we're all looking forward to the driving review.
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Old 06-27-2007, 08:40 AM   #90
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I love the rear LSD. Where the MB, Volvo and other open-diff cars get stuck, i usually pull them out
VDC is good for safety, but diff-brake/lock is sometimes very important to get out of tricky muck/slush/snow/ice.

on tarmac, i don't care about front LSD or rear LSD.
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Old 06-27-2007, 09:04 AM   #91
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2008 Impreza: Facts, not opinions.
By: Ryan Douthit, Subiesport Magazine

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At last we had a chance to test drive the 2008 Subaru Impreza. What do we think of it? Unfortunately, you’ll have to wait until August for our driving impression, which will be available at Subiesport.com. The in-depth review will appear in an upcoming print edition of the magazine. In the meanwhile, we have some solid facts we wanted to share with you about this new car.

First, the automatic transmission is new. Out with the 4EAT, in with the ACT-4 with Sportshift. When asked, Subaru claimed the new transmission was lighter than the 5EAT, performed better than the 4EAT and was a cost effective solution. For manual-tranny fans, the 5MT has received some additional improvements, though these are evolutionary design changes.

The motor, too, is new to the Impreza. Basically it’s a Subaru Legacy GT 2.5 flat-4 with a Mitsubishi TD04 turbo. According to Subaru engineers any current LGT turbo should fit the plumbing no problem. VF40 upgrade anyone?

Moving to the back, there are even more fresh changes. The rear suspension is now a sophisticated double-wishbone configuration. This opens up trunk space and, “enhances driving dynamics.” For buyers looking to immediately upgrade to coilovers, the market will need time to respond to this new design. The 2007 coilovers simply will not fit.

In addition to a new suspension setup, the car is also riding on a longer wheelbase. This adds greater legroom for both front and backseat occupants.

Gone is the rear limited-slip differential in the WRX. Instead Subaru chose to focus on the Vehicle Dynamics Control (VDC), standard on the WRX, and an option on the non-turbo 2.5i. Again, we asked the Subaru engineers if the 2007 differentials will work in the new chassis, and they said it should be an easy installation, if someone was so inclined.

The stereo is trick. The optional navigation system will play DVDs (when the handbrake is engaged, of course), or your choice of video when plugged into the RCA jacks located in the elbow rest. Otherwise, it is very similar to the navigation system previously available in the 2007 Tribeca and other upscale Subaru models.

There is a whole laundry list of new features designed to create a more enjoyable driving experience. Pricing has not been officially announced, but it was suggested that pricing will be similar to the outgoing 2007 models. The 2008’s will be available near the end of August.

ummm...guys....the 05-07 Legacy Suspension is the SAME....AFAIK...so coilovers from the current Leggy "should" bolt right up..

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Old 06-27-2007, 09:40 AM   #92
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From what I understand the front is the same, but the rear is a new compact design.
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Old 06-27-2007, 10:07 AM   #93
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umm maybe you should buy a truck.
The point is that my TS has a lot of room inside. Just curious about the capacity of the new car. If I wanted a truck, I wouldn't be here.
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Old 06-27-2007, 11:42 AM   #94
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ummm...guys....the 05-07 Legacy Suspension is the SAME....AFAIK...so coilovers from the current Leggy "should" bolt right up..

Bill
Incorrect.

The FRONT suspension is the same/similar to the Legacy. The REAR suspension is actually closer related to the Tribeca. See this thread for more information:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1240466
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Old 06-27-2007, 11:45 AM   #95
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Oh, as for the Open rear diff... As someone who has had an Impreza with ALL open diffs and one with rear AND front LSD's, I have to say its not a big deal to have all open diff's. I actually found the handling more "neutral" with the open diffs versus having the rear LSD without a front LSD.
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Old 06-27-2007, 11:50 AM   #96
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Oh, as for the Open rear diff... As someone who has had an Impreza with ALL open diffs and one with rear AND front LSD's, I have to say its not a big deal to have all open diff's. I actually found the handling more "neutral" with the open diffs versus having the rear LSD without a front LSD.
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Old 06-27-2007, 11:53 AM   #97
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Man, Subaru really screwed the pooch with this car. I HATE HATE HATE it. For real though, now it has no LSD?! I don't care if this thing ran 11s out of the box or something, id still never even consider one. Oh well, 2005: RIP the last good looking Impreza
BAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!

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Old 06-27-2007, 11:55 AM   #98
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Not true. All you need is a fmic that is made to work w/ a WRX style turbo that mates up to the LGT throttle body. There are 2 of these already out for the legacy gt.

Perrin and MTS
yes, you can custom design anything to work. But if you dont have a 20G or bigger then you dont need a FMIC, you need an STI/WRX/FXT manifold and IC to fit most turbos.
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Old 06-27-2007, 11:58 AM   #99
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Why hasn't anyone done this yet???





Inside width, length with seats up, length with seat down.
Damn fools.
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Old 06-27-2007, 12:00 PM   #100
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I've been holding hope on this car since the first I saw it because I kinda like the hatchback... But hearing that they dropped the LSD in favor of some lame traction control.............I give up..........
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